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Pootertoot
03-30-2002, 11:29 AM
Not that it should surprise anyone but the following is a list of examples of Personal and Corporate Patriotism following the Sept. 11th attacks, compiled from <a href=http://www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,38604,FF.html>here</a>. Feel free to add your own examples, or just express your gross disgust at the new, "changed" America. If there's any example that change must start with the individual and not the masses, it's the following:

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Shoe designer Steve Madden resigns as CEO of his eponymous company after being arrested on stock-fraud charges, to which he pleads guilty. A move that could help rehabilitate his image -- designing an American-flag-themed shoe called "Bravest" in order to "raise money for New York City's fallen firefighters" -- backfires when the New York Times reveals that none of the $515,783 in profits from the shoe were given to firefighters' charities until reporters began inquiring into the matter.

Once reporters do look into Steve Madden Inc.'s disposition of funds from "Bravest," the company pledges to give 10 percent of its proceeds from the shoe, and a minimum of $100,000, to a firefighters' charity. It keeps the remainder for itself. Jamie Karson, Madden's new CEO, explains to the Times that "the most patriotic thing we can do is make money."

The October issue of the Association of Lloyd's Members newsletter announces that the terrorist attacks represent a "historic opportunity" for insurance underwriters to make money.

At 2:40 p.m. on Sept. 11, a New Jersey restaurateur named Michael Heiden files a form with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to trademark the words "World Trade Center." Interviewed by the Smoking Gun website, Heiden claims that Disney trademarked the term "Pearl Harbor" before producing that film [it did not], and that, "if they ever do make a movie [about the terrorist attacks], I'd like to get involved."

In the months after the attacks, more than a dozen people and companies file trademark applications for the phrase "Let's roll" or variants thereof. In the face of protests from the Todd Beamer Foundation -- named for the passenger on United Flight 93 who uttered the phrase -- one trademark applicant, Jack L. Williams of Grosse Pointe Park, Mich., tells the Associated Press, "I don't care what your name is, it's first in, first swim.... It's all about good old American capitalism." (Pooter Note: For those not in the know, Todd Beamer was one of the brave passengers that lead the attack on the terrorists in the one flight that crashed away from civilian-occupied territory...his voice was heard as giving the rallying cry "Are you ready guys?! Let's Roll!"

Gas stations nationwide exploit post-Sept. 11 fears of a fuel shortage by charging customers $4 and $5 per gallon. Among the worst offenders: a station in Jackson, Mich., that, according to Newsweek, hikes its price to $6.75 per gallon.

: In the wake of the terrorist attacks, employees of radio conglomerate Clear Channel (CCU) begin circulating a list of songs inappropriate for airplay. Among the songs is "Imagine," John Lennon's stirring plea for world peace, which is later performed by Neil Young during the "America: A Tribute to Heroes" fund-raiser for victims of the attacks. Clear Channel's management denies issuing or endorsing the list.
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There will always be scumbags out there looking to make a buck off your hardship. Don't be them. Kill them if you can do so without being caught.

I, personally, don't know how I've changed since 9/11. I'm a little more scared for my safety. A little more wary of foreigners, but that makes me feel guilty. And any insignificance I felt in the face of an uncaring universe in the waking moments of the attack has since been usurped by new episodes of "South Park" and the release of Transformers on DVD...it's too easy to forget..no, that's a poor choice of words, we don't forget...we choose to ignore, not consciously, but subconsciously...just get back to our lives...I've become complacent again.

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WintersEmbers
03-30-2002, 11:43 AM
Poot. i might have been better off never ever hearing about those things. may all those people catcha ebola.

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Brick Jesus
03-31-2002, 05:00 AM
Not for nothing, but the people on that list are some real scumfucks. It reminds me of something Ronnie said on the air a few months ago about how Bush was wrong to tell everyone to go back to normal, that he should have said to come out of this a little bit of a better person.

Me personally, I'm changed a lot. Good and bad, though. I watched guys run into those buildings to save people they didn't even know, I watched the country pull together and saw people donate everything they could. I used to make fun of ops and firefighters and all that, but not since that day and never again.
On the bad side, I've become a little wary of people of arabic descent, I don't mean to be but it's the truth and I need to vent this. I feel real awful about it but I'm trying to work through it. I'm not going to become violent about it or anything, it's more of an angry, guilty feeling in my heart. I usually pride myself on not hating anybody, but it's hard when I find myself slipping into it. One day I'll be alright I suppose.

The other thing I don't like is that I'm seeing less flags on the houses and cars, and I'm seeing fewer every day. That bums me out too, here we are, trying to secure the country and get things back on track and our military is fighting in defense of civilization itself and our freedom and it rips me up to see people get killed in some godforsaken desert, but they are there for a reason. Keep those flags up people, and if you took it down already, it's not too late to put it back up.

Disclaimer: The comments of Brick Jesus do not represent the feelings or opinions of any normal individual.

scooter
03-31-2002, 08:23 AM
"great point Poot. not only have major corporations changed for the worse, but i feel that society around me has changed for the worse as well. there is alot more tension and alot more anger in the streets. for some reason i see alot more people being less curtious, and less respectful to one another. i don't know why, but there is definitly a change happening.

Jester
03-31-2002, 08:46 AM
With everyday that passes on there will be people that forget how we were during that time. That just then results in people looking how they could benefit from it in some way such as the examples you pointed out.

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