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angrymissy
04-02-2002, 06:53 AM
I have been having a lot of problems with my sister lately and I need some advice. Let me explain the whole situation (this WILL get long)
My father and brother live with my grandparents (bad house to live in). My sister was living there too as of last year. I was living with my boyfriend. Anywho, my boyfriend's family moved away, so I had to get my own place. I asked my sister to move out with me, telling her I'd pay $1000/month rent, she could pay $450, have access to a car, and pay half the bills. She agreed. we moved into a pretty nice place back in September, and all we do is fight. I pay ALL the bills and buy all the groceries, and I think she should pay more rent, because she is working full time now (she was in school before). She screams at me every day about the house being a mess and last night it all came to a head. I have been going to work 2 hours early every day for the past two months, because I drive her to work (she's been at her first real job for about two months) and she starts work earlier than I do. I just do that to be nice. I pay the entire phone, electric, heat and cable bill, because she says she needs to catch up on her old credit card bills before she can pay our bills. I NEVER yell at her, and always let her use MY car when she wants to go out. I am always willing to make everybody in my life happy, and I really wouldn't care about doing all these things for her, except for the fact that she doesn't appreciate them. Last night, she started flipping out on me and calling me a whore, bitch and a bad person (because I had a headache and was trying to sleep at 8PM instead of vacuuming the carpet). I then very calmly told her she can't use the car anymore, and I wouldn't drive her to work in the morning if she was going to treat me this way. She then totally flipped out, cursed me out, grabbed her clothes and told ME I don't appreciate anything SHE does for me, and said she was leaving for good. After she stormed out, she came back an hour later and started grabbing things out of her closet, and I went back to her and calmly said, "we need to talk about this, its unhealthy the way you're acting" and she just yelled SHUT THE FUCK UP and said she wants her deposit back and she's leaving (apparently because I always shove the fact that I pay all the bills in her face) I don't know what to do. She also constantly makes fun of me for going to a shrink and likes to yell things like "go take a fucking pill, that's the answer to everything". Living with her is hell and making my anxiety horrid, but I feel bad because she is my sister. I don't know how to handle it, my friends tell me that I let her walk all over me, and I should just let her go. It just upsets me that she says I'm a horrible person, because I've never done anything but try to help her. What should I do? (sorry this was so long)
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zathrus
04-02-2002, 07:15 AM
missy,
don't blame yourself. my brother's had the same problem the older one bought a house and said that our younger brother and a friend could move in. my younger brother wouldn't help with the bills, cleaning or anything. the older of my younger brother finally said pay your part of the bills, help keep the house clean or get your asses out. see if a friend wants to move in and give your sister some time to cool off and try talking to her
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erinmoran
04-02-2002, 07:23 AM
dont feel bad because shes your sister. you actually tried to help her out and this is how she repays you?? I would have tossed out all her shit onto the street and locked her out
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angrymissy
04-02-2002, 07:31 AM
The problem is, I am messy around the house. She knew this beforehand, and it was basically agreed that since I would pay so much more rent, she'd be responsible for cleaning (wheras I could care less). Unfortunately, she is a neat freak, and this whole thing started last night becuase I didn't want to vacuum the carpet at 8PM, I wanted to sleep. I'm just venting and hoping to get some advice, I thought it would be easier to live with my sister rather than a friend but I guess I was wrong
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Jennitalia
04-02-2002, 07:37 AM
sounds like she's taking advantage of you. i would try and talk to her again and try to work things out, because she is your sister. you're doing so much for her already and it seems as if she doesnt appreciate it. stand your ground and dont let her walk all over you. if she doesn't want to hear it, i think you should consider getting a new roommate
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wilee
04-02-2002, 07:57 AM
I'm going with the consensus here, you should stand your ground. It sounds like your sister needs to have a dose of reality as in what it takes to live on her own. Since she moved in with you right out of your father's place, and hadn't been out on her own, she probably is "used to" a certain "standard of living" meaning she has X amount of money in her pocket, and no bills. You've obviously tried to be nice and explain the situation, but if she doesn't appreciate what you've done for her now, get another room mate and hope that she realizes what you did for her.
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FUNKMAN
04-02-2002, 08:05 AM
Missy,
It sounds like your sister is very headstrong and unwiling to be flexible or listen... but if you just had the fight give it a few days to settle down...
if you are in the right and you are unable to communicate with her, just tell her you Love her but are unable to live with her...
the question becomes, can you handle the rent and if not will you advertise for a roommate or ask a friend?
I have 4 brothers and Love each one of them BUT I am pretty sure that I would be unable to live with any of them, That's Family sometimes, no greater Love but when you get mad at each other OH BOY!
Don't feel guilty about it...
Keep your cool and don't get too stressed, there are much worser things that can happen to people...
Like 9/11
I'm sure in time it will all work out...
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angrymissy
04-02-2002, 08:31 AM
thanks guys :) I needed to know that I wasn't acting irrationally.
I can afford the rent on my own if i have to, and this isn't the first fight, this has been going to for months it just came to a head last night. I guess I will wait it out and see what she says when she cools off, but she's going to have to leave.
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zathrus
04-02-2002, 08:58 AM
good for you missy
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Missy first off is this your sister your talking about cause it sounds like an over demanding BF. Second of all, you need to find a roommate other than your sister. Sharing rooms with siblings is never good, I always here stories about fighting and stuff. I think you Spoil the hell out of your sister, look at you , you pay EVERYTHING it seems in that place! Now if your sister does come back you need to set some new rules for her. Raise her rent, make her contribute to the grocercies, if you let her use your car make sure she at least puts in some gas money. And if this doesnt work out, then find another room mate.
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ChrisTheCop
04-02-2002, 09:15 AM
MISSY, Some people are just not meant to live together. my advice is, if she's willing to go, ,LET HER GO! My brother and I tried to live together briefly and we were constantly arguing, even wrestling and fist fighting! I moved out and now we are the best of friends. Just because the roomate thing doesn't work out doesnt mean you'll end up not being happy sisters. It is important for everyone, especially those with past or present psych problems (who doesnt?), to take every step possible to improve the quality of their every day lives. so, again, if she's willing to leave...LET HER GO!!! muah
Meatball
04-02-2002, 09:16 AM
have you considered getting a one bedroon or studio for less rent? its clear you and your sister will fare better NOT living together. Thats ok - alot of siblings do better with some bounderies and distance between them. I would also consider, mailing her a copy of this post! Let her read how you really feel ( with or without the follow ups) and with a letter your not in her face to hear her excuses.
Jackie Sloan
04-02-2002, 09:21 AM
Let her go Missy, didn't you say you can afford the rent?
Try living by youself, although it can be lonely at times it is well worth it, believe me. If you feel the need to talk to someone, you always have this board. Just look at all of the positive responses you've gotten! Personally I love the fact that I don't have to worry about a roomate, someone who doesn't like or appreciate this or that. Trust me it's a nice feeling to be able to come home and do whatever the fuck I want, or nothing at all. Peace
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HordeKing1
04-04-2002, 09:05 PM
AMB - I appologize for the length of time it took me to respond to your query. I got logged off (when writting one of my infamous lengthy reponses and when I logged back on, this wasn't listed as a new post anymore so I figured I answered it. Again, my appologies.)
You sister is taking advantage of you. She broke her agreement and you apparantly have been letting her get away with it for some time.
It's not unusual for even good friends to clash when sharing an apartment. It's also not unusual for the same to apply to sisters.
It seems pretty clear that the two of you cannot live together. She is not assuming her part of the obligation regarding splitting the bill and she is compounding this by criticising you for not being neat! That's just plain wrong.
Furthermore, as her financial situation has improved it's perfectly reasonable for her to assume the responsibility for a more equitable portion of the rent.
You have two choices. Either forgive and forget and get taken advantage of or insist that your sister clean up her act and start doing more to subsidize living expenses (and stop criticising you as well).
The first option is not palatable b/c your sister is treating you like a dishrag and you shouldn't tolerate it. The second option is thus preferred but the reality of the situation is that it will probably come down to a "do this or leave" scenerio. If she opts to leave, it needen't destroy your relationship, particularly if you talk to her and tell her this when you insist she start pulling her own weight.
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furie
04-05-2002, 01:51 PM
go to the corner of 50th and 9th ave. there's an alley next to the pizzaria, go there, ask for "Tony".
He can make the problem disappear, if you know what i mean.
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