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The Blowhard

05-14-2001, 08:33 PM

Anyone?

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Pootertoot

05-15-2001, 07:29 AM

Anyone who names his kids Moon Unit, Dweezil, and Ahmed is great in my book.

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vegeta

05-15-2001, 10:24 AM

I hate Ahmet, that bald headed f'er. Every time I see him on TV acting like he's hopped up on crack, I want to strangle him!

He was Frank Zappa's biggest mistake.

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radio junkie

08-15-2001, 08:31 PM

The best thing about Zappa was he didn't care if anyone liked his music or not, he did what he wanted. It wasn't Halloween unless you saw him at the Palladium. They were great shows.

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The Blowhard

08-15-2001, 10:08 PM

I loved the Halloween show at The Palladium. I was always waiting for "Dynamo Humm".

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radio junkie

08-16-2001, 09:42 AM

Goblin Girl was one of my favorites. and anything from the Apostrophe album...Album? Haven't used that term in awhile

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Gvac

08-16-2001, 01:56 PM

Steamrolling toward 1,000
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Gvac

08-16-2001, 01:56 PM

Joe's Garage is a far better
"Rock Opera" than either
Tommy or
Quadrophenia. How can
you compete with songs
like "Catholic Girls" and
"Why Does It Hurt When I
Pee?"

And guess what, radio
junkie? It's a 2 RECORD
set.

Steamrolling toward 1,000
posts

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radio junkie

08-16-2001, 02:36 PM

"Watermelon in the Easter Hay" still brings a tear to my eye. Think I'll dig out the turntable, crank up the old phonograph and see if it still works. Might need a new needle though. Ever see when he was the musical guest on Saturday Night Live? He did I'm the Slime.

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The Blowhard

10-18-2001, 11:17 PM

I really miss the Halloween shows at The Palladium.

"We are all born mad. Some remain so."

Sheeplovr

10-19-2001, 09:54 AM

Whatchout where the huskies go dont you eat that yellow snow.

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reeshy

10-19-2001, 10:03 AM

YES!

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The Blowhard

10-19-2001, 01:50 PM

You are what you is".

"We are all born mad. Some remain so."

radio junkie

10-20-2001, 04:16 AM

I think in 1981, I was only able to get tickets for the Nov. 1 show at the Palladium. Because it was a Sunday, Zappa canceled the show, he didn't want to have to pay the extra overtime the unions were demanding he pay because it was Sunday night. I was disappointed at the time, but I guess I can see his point now.

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The Blowhard

10-20-2001, 05:08 AM

Frank always had a problem with the unions. Just look at ticket prices nowadays..Frank saw it coming!
By the way, I was just listning to "Zoot Aloors"..great album, especially "The Torture Never Stops".

"We are all born mad. Some remain so."

radio junkie

10-20-2001, 10:26 AM

Yeah, it is a good album. Disco Boy always cracked me up. Does the term "album" give away age? I don't hear it much anymore.

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Dirtybird11

10-20-2001, 11:50 AM

he scares me. not human.
alien musical being. Xtremely talented. not my bag baby.
its the only music that frightens the hell out of me..no lie- have no clue why, but i will freak out if i hear him for more than 20 seconds---but yes, he is an original

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radio junkie

10-28-2001, 07:30 PM

If anyone is interested, I believe on Halloween night at Irving Plaza, a band called Project/Object is playing. They play only Zappa music. One of the members is Ike Willis who played with Zappa's band during the late 70's and 80's. Supposedly some of the original Mothers will be there also. Just in case anyone is interested.

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The Blowhard

10-29-2001, 06:12 AM

Cool Junkie, Ike was great.
Any word about Terry Bozzio being there?

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radio junkie

10-29-2001, 06:56 AM

This is the article I read in the Bergen Record. Dosen't mention Terry Bozzio or Steve Vai either. But you never know.

The Object is to keep Zappa's music alive
Friday, October 26, 2001

WHO: Project/Object, Donna U wanna, and Janet the Planet.

WHAT: Eclectic rock.

WHEN: 8 p.m. Wednesday.

WHERE: Irving Plaza, 17 Irving Place, Manhattan; (212) 777-6800. HOW MUCH: $25 and $50. Box office or TicketMaster.

By ED CONDRAN
Special to The Record

A week before Frank Zappa died of prostate cancer at age 52 in 1993, the eclectic innovator asked his vocalist-guitarist Ike Willis to keep his music alive.

"I was more than happy to comply," Willis said. "What he said was the biggest honor ever bestowed upon my pointy little head. So, of course I chose to continue playing his music, the music that I love and respect and played for 17 fabulous years with him."

Willis has delivered Zappa tracks with various artists, including the Israeli Chamber Orchestra and Liverpool's The Muffin Men. When not fronting the Ike Willis Band, Zappa's longtime right-hand man plays with Project/Object. The Zappa tribute band has been around for six years and Willis has been part of the proceedings since 1997.

It's rare that such an act can lure a prominent figure from the band it's emulating.

"There's no doubt about that, but this is not just some cover band," Willis said during a call from his home in Portland, Ore. If it were, I wouldn't be part of it. Project/Object is in no way, shape, or form one of those macho, chest-beating groups that tries to be another band. There is no overblown bravado or grandeur here. I was already in the real deal. You can't do that again. What I can do is play the same parts I've been playing for 24 years.

"The approach here is like being in a high school orchestra that plays Chopin. You don't mess with Chopin and go off on a tangent. You play it note for note. It's serious composition, and so is Frank Zappa's music. I knew this band took it from that angle and that's why I'm part of this."

Project/Object, which took its name from the term Zappa used to describe his body of work, is getting ready to perform the show of all shows Wednesday at Irving Plaza in Manhattan. The special evening will unite Zappa band members from every era, from the mid-Sixties through the early Nineties. The Grandmothers, the original Mothers of Invention alumni that includes Don Preston, Bunk Gardner, Roy Estrada, and Billy Mundi, will perform. Former Zappa bandleader Ed Palermo also is among those who have committed to the show, which is tagged "You Can Do Halloween Onstage Vol. 1: A Celebration of the Life & Music of Frank Zappa."

"There will probably be more guys who played with Frank under one roof than there's ever been before," Willis said. "So many people are coming out. It's going to be wild."

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The Blowhard

10-29-2001, 09:02 AM

Thanks Junkie. Now I feel like watching "200 Motels" and "Baby Snakes".

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Snackboy

01-21-2002, 07:44 PM

The Torture Never Stops. Great song.

Time to make the donuts!

Zipgun

01-21-2002, 08:01 PM

Hot Rats is still my favorite album. The Gumbo Variations alone is an amazing track. I have about 22 or 23 albums, or I should say CD's instead.
Some of it is actually unlistenable. Not because it's bad, but because I don't think my brain is big enough to comprehend it all.

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The Blowhard

06-21-2002, 08:46 PM

What are Frank's kids up to these days? Anyone?

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TeeBone

01-10-2010, 10:19 AM

Last Post - 2002

I only post now because I saw D. Zappa play F. Zappa last night at the ole' Ritz theatre in Ybor City. Not a bad show. If you get a chance to see them, go....they were very good and the guy they have doing Frank is great.

Stankfoot

01-10-2010, 10:24 AM

Joe's Garage is a far better
"Rock Opera" than either
Tommy or
Quadrophenia. .....

were you serious?

hanso

01-10-2010, 10:35 AM

I would put it a close two to the wall.

hedges

01-10-2010, 11:49 AM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned how good Zappa was on the guitar yet. He was awesome. One of my favorite solos is on Muffin Man off of Bongo Fury.

bobrobot

01-10-2010, 01:39 PM

That solo fuckin' rawks & Captain Beefheart sings along!!! (BTW, this song is actually a composite of both a live & studio rendition of MM) Sadly, audio @ the end of this is kinda an abortion...

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hanso

01-10-2010, 03:37 PM

I like the napkin solos pick a color.
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KC2OSO

01-10-2010, 07:00 PM

PapaBear

01-10-2010, 08:11 PM

Bratushka

04-23-2010, 02:19 PM

In 1969 at the tender age of 16 while visiting a Billy Blakes Department Store in Riverhead (Long Island) I was browsing through the music department when I came across an album in the cut out bin for 99 cents. It was Freak Out! by the Mothers of Invention. I bought it because of the Suzy Creamcheese's warning on the back. It blew my mind and changed my worldview and taste in music forever! I was more or less adopted by a motorcycle gang that next year after my mom got divorced and we moved from Bridgehampton to Riverhead permanently. With Zappa supplying most of the soundtrack for the next 40 years and well learned biker ethics I became the person I am today! (If anyone from out there remembers the motorcycle wars of 1969 to 1972 and how dangerous it was for those of us annoying fucks on two-wheels, you can put this in perspective. I was a patch-holder in a small organization before I turned 18.)

I'm still very much into Zappa and really appreciated him since some decades ago I was finally able to afford a sound system to justify his musical genius. (it made all my music that much more wonderful and it was like discovering it all again!) In fact I just got Greasy Love Songs (Rubin and the Jets) and Philly '76 in the mail yesterday courtesy the Zappa Family Trust's mail-order service thru Barfko-Swill.

I have a music collection with some 7500+ titles on CD and LP (plus a few hundred cassettes) and Zappa is the artist with the largest number of releases next followed by Miles Davis. I have a few real gems, the star of which is a copy of Good-Night Vienna which were all individually hand painted on the labels of the LPs and limited to 300 (or 500?) copies world-wide. I have an unopened Japanese release of Lather on LP, and unopened original Freak Out! in stereo and a mono copy as well. I have the complete Old Masters and an unopened Beat the Boots box set (LP). I own most all of the radio promo releases and some other odds and ends. I have all the original label releases of all his official releases, many in multiple copies some still sealed. I have a substantial collection of unauthorized releases many in the original 1st pressing jackets. I also have a sizable downloaded collection from Zappateers. (Any Zappa fan that isn't familiar with Zappateers.com you owe it to yourself to visit them!) The two things I am missing and will likely never find is an original Zappa in New York with Punky's Whips and the We're Only in it for the Money with the Sgt. Pepper's parody cover to the outside. I saw one once that a girl had who hated Zappa. That was the one LP she had gotten by him and played about 3 minutes before deciding it was not for her. I think that I was drooling when I saw it and offered her $150.00 on the spot for it which made her realize the rarity of what she had. She wouldn't sell it to me. Fucking bitch! :furious:

To date, Zappa is the only artist, cultural icon, whatever whose death made this old school biker guy cry. I couldn't even get the words "Zappa died." out without choking for a week. The man was just so apologetically himself for his entire life and lived as he wanted to, performed his art as he wanted to, and never sold out. There aren't many that stay so true to anybody/anything much less themselves.

So fuck yeah! I am a Zappa fan! :clap:

Bratushka

04-23-2010, 02:28 PM

hanso

04-23-2010, 02:40 PM

There is a 24/7 Zappa online stream somewhere. I lost the url when I had to reset my hd.

OGC

04-23-2010, 02:54 PM

There is a 24/7 Zappa online stream somewhere. I lost the url when I had to reset my hd.

How about this one http://www.zappa.com/zapparadio/ ?

Bratushka

04-23-2010, 03:00 PM

There is a 24/7 Zappa online stream somewhere. I lost the url when I had to reset my hd.

seems i heard of that, too. i think it was Zappa radio that you could link to from zappa.com. i occasionally visit the forum there but over the last few years it was kinda taken over by some apparent young-uns who have no clue about Zappa but need new floors to pee on. one guy announced himself by issuing a warning he was the same poster who wreaked havoc and discontent at the Elvis Costello boards and was not to be trifled with.

then i suggested Zappa get a turn at XM when they have a station dedicated to a single artist for awhile. the only response was "oh, Gail will sue!" and other stupid shit.

anyway, that's likely the broadcast you are looking for. the zappateers i mentioned have every imaginable bootleg (unauthorized recording they call them) for Zappa and many from Captain Beefheart plus all kinds of other related things for download. most are FLAC files so audio quality is good (relatively speaking). membership is free.

EDIT: OGC- i didn't see your post when i wrote this. the page hadn't updated yet. apologies for being redundant.

something that is/was interesting was to use Zappa as the seed format music for Pandora. i did that when Pandora first came out and there were several bands i learned of thru that that were worthy additions to my collection. i'm also a fan of fusion jazz (Weather Report being my favorite band from that era) and my Weather Report Radio turned up some great stuff via Pandora as well. I haven't been to Pandora in some time. last I heard they were afraid they were going to have to close shop when the RIAA wanted to extract fees for Internet music play which also put a lot of Internet radio stations out of operation. I'm not sure if they are still around.

danner1515

04-23-2010, 03:11 PM

http://media.musictoday.com/store/bands/1039/product_large/ZPCD97.JPG

Got this in the mail the other day.

Bratushka

04-23-2010, 03:18 PM

http://media.musictoday.com/store/bands/1039/product_large/ZPCD97.JPG

Got this in the mail the other day.

Got mine yesterday along with Philly 76. Have you ever heard the real Reuben and the Jets? i'd post a pic of the CD but i don't think i'm allowed to post attachments yet. Personally, I like Zappa's Reuben & the Jets better.

danner1515

04-24-2010, 03:41 AM

Got mine yesterday along with Philly 76. Have you ever heard the real Reuben and the Jets? i'd post a pic of the CD but i don't think i'm allowed to post attachments yet. Personally, I like Zappa's Reuben & the Jets better.

You mean the band Ruben and the Jets? I've never heard them, but I've come across their album a few times in record stores. I actually really love Zappa's Ruben album though, and I'm thrilled to finally have the original mix on CD. I don't have to worry about scratching up my vinyl now.

Bratushka

04-24-2010, 12:23 PM

You mean the band Ruben and the Jets? I've never heard them, but I've come across their album a few times in record stores. I actually really love Zappa's Ruben album though, and I'm thrilled to finally have the original mix on CD. I don't have to worry about scratching up my vinyl now.

i've got the Greasy Love Songs in the CD player now! outstanding! i hear you about the records. i've always been a bit over the top caring for my vinyl. it's paid off since i have some LPs that are approaching 40 years old that still sound superb! i have a vintage Harmon-Kardon turntable and use a Benz phono cartridge, one of the hand-built jobbies and track very lightly, about 1.25 - 1.5 grams. i use a digital tone arm scale to set weight and have an alignment tool to set the cartridge angle in the shell. i recheck it at least once a month. i still use a Discwasher and their fluid. i've looked at several older albums under a microscope and they are sill spotless.

speaking of vinyl- i just got Jimi Hendrix's First Rays of the New Rising Sun and Valleys of Neptune on vinyl. they are new releases from the Hendrix family since they got the rights to his catalog back. i also got Funkadelics / America Eats its Young on vinyl las week.

and, yep, the Rubin you refer to is what i'm talking about. the only real reason i have it is as a novelty piece to fit in to my Z collection. conceptual continuity and all that!

danner1515

04-24-2010, 08:03 PM

i've got the Greasy Love Songs in the CD player now! outstanding! i hear you about the records. i've always been a bit over the top caring for my vinyl. it's paid off since i have some LPs that are approaching 40 years old that still sound superb! i have a vintage Harmon-Kardon turntable and use a Benz phono cartridge, one of the hand-built jobbies and track very lightly, about 1.25 - 1.5 grams. i use a digital tone arm scale to set weight and have an alignment tool to set the cartridge angle in the shell. i recheck it at least once a month. i still use a Discwasher and their fluid. i've looked at several older albums under a microscope and they are sill spotless.

Yeah, I really got into the vinyl geekery several years ago. I'd always had a turntable and a decent collection of records. However, I got a little more serious about it, did some research, and upgraded to a good vintage Thorens table and a tube amp, and I made sure I had the proper alignment, tracking weight, etc. I even pieced together a DIY record cleaning gadget from an old Dirt Devil, and I put all my records in poly-lined sleeves. It's obsessive and insane, but I like it.

Bratushka

04-24-2010, 10:31 PM

Yeah, I really got into the vinyl geekery several years ago. I'd always had a turntable and a decent collection of records. However, I got a little more serious about it, did some research, and upgraded to a good vintage Thorens table and a tube amp, and I made sure I had the proper alignment, tracking weight, etc. I even pieced together a DIY record cleaning gadget from an old Dirt Devil, and I put all my records in poly-lined sleeves. It's obsessive and insane, but I like it.

there's something about the ritual of playing LPs that's just familiar! and Thorens is definitely a class act! i have a Parasound preamp driving 4 Carver TFM - 35x amps running bridged for 700 watts per unit. my speakers are Polk LSi 12s i'm running bi-amped hence the 2 Carvers per channel. i have a pair of 400 watt Polk powered subs, PSW 10s, 1 for each channel to help drive the bottom. besides the H-K turntable i have a Nikko equalizer, Grant tube buffer amp, Vincent phono preamp stage, a Parasound AM/FM receiver, Polk XM satellite receiver, Nakamichi cassette deck, and a Cambridge Audio Azur CD player. i have a 1000 watt 7.1 surround sound system on my TV, an 800 watt 7.1 system on my PC plus a turntable, tape deck, CD player and a small mixer board on it too. my garage has a pretty killer sound system in it as well. it's almost as much an obsession as my Harleys and the other stuff i go overboard on. i like to feel the noise!

there's a pretty cool audio forum here http://audiokarma.org/ if you like that sort of thing. it's a pretty laid back forum and the over ego driven arrogant assholes that populate most audio forums are largely absent from there. very well worth checking out!

BTW: i gave the Philly 76 discs a listen, too. i really liked it especially since i don't believe i had ever heard that line up before.

high fly

04-26-2010, 01:49 PM

I always found Zappa more fun to quote and talk about than to actually listen to...

Bratushka

04-26-2010, 06:44 PM

I always found Zappa more fun to quote and talk about than to actually listen to...

even as a hardcore fan a few of his pieces are hard for me to listen to. not many, but a few...

the story line in a lot of his individual songs and concept records are amazing. Joe's Garage and Thingfish among the top concept favs of mine even though you can go as far back as We're Only in it for the Money for hitting the nail on the head perfectly for social satire. you can take the lyrics from a song like those from Trouble Every Day (Freak Out!). even though it was written in 1967 it is still current.

there are a lot of books about him which are varying degrees of BS except the Real Frank Zappa Book which he actually approved of. one, the Negative Dialectics of Poodle Play is pretty dense reading and will explode your head. while it's near impossible to find screenplay You Are What You Is is a great story.

there are a few interview discs (records, too) out there. if you can find the Kill Ugly Radio CDs (Kill Ugly Radio, Kill Ugly Radio Some More, The Return of the Son of Kill Ugly Radio) there are some neat interview segments between tracks. The discs are hard to find but contain a lot of his more "accessible" tracks.

i've made a few Zappa converts and helped people see his muscianship (my wife among them) via his Shut Up n' Play yer Guitar series which are all instrumentals. The first go 'round had 3 discs (and albums), and the second was simply called Guitar.

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HypnoDude

04-26-2010, 07:08 PM

Who could forget "Bobby Brown"? or Catholic Girls? ..Zappa was awesome....!

jrschrock

07-12-2010, 03:48 PM

Love Zappa. Prepare to be jealous alert:::

I hung out with Ike Willis last nite!!!!

jrschrock

07-12-2010, 09:02 PM

Here's some proof :)

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PapaBear

07-12-2010, 09:05 PM

Cool!

Bratushka

07-13-2010, 12:06 AM

Very cool! What did you chat about, being nosy and all. Was he just there or with Dweezil and ZPZ?:drunk:

I saw Zappa and company on one of the few visits they made to Indianapolis many years ago. I'd have to mine out the ticket stub from the Archives to recall the date exactly. I know there's a bootleg of that particular performance. Both Willis and White were with him at the time. It was at a small club called the Vogue in an area called Broadripple. Among other things, that's one of the down sides of Indiana- a lot of artists that weren't of the stadium and large arena type fillers skip Indiana and got to either Chicago or Louisville. It isn't quite as bad these days since some venues have been added like Deercreek up in Indy, the new convention center and Lucas Oil Stadium.

I know some probably know of it, some may not, and others won't care, but there's a site called Zappateers.com where about the entire collection of boots is available for free download both from Zappa. he and his many bands, Beefheart, and other all types of Zappa related stuff, music, video, etc. They don't distribute or offer any of the commercially available stuff to avoid direct coyright infringement issues. Best of all, the downloads are in torrent/FLAC form so it's much better audio quality than mp3. A lot of the members there do wonderful work cleaning up the recordings and such. Along those lines I really like a nifty little utility called Traders Little Helper for FLAC to WAVE conversions. It's also a free download. Hope this provides some grins and smiles to the Zappa fans out there!

hanso

06-10-2011, 10:16 PM

Bratushka

10-02-2011, 01:12 AM

geez- it says this was posted on 6/11/2011 and i just got notification today 10/1/2011!

it seemed that except for when i lived on Long Island which i left in the early 70s i never lived close to anywhere Zappa toured. when i did field service work later on i came close but it was always i got into town the day after his show or i had to do my work and fly right out to another job.

i was glad i finally did get to see him in Indianapolis back in the 80s for the You Are What You Is tour but it made me regret not having seen him a hundred times before.

Duke

10-11-2011, 05:38 AM

Zappa is the man, kicks the shit out of Clapton any day of the week.

highly recommend the live album- shut up your mouth and play yer guitar

Bratushka

10-11-2011, 07:03 PM

yeah, a lot of people never get past the comedic aspects of his music and figure out he parodied rock and roll stars. fame, and the other things people get too squishy about. i have enlightened more tha a ew with his "Shut Up and Play Your Guitar" series and pieces like Hot Rats. he'll always be at the top of my favorite artists.

hanso

03-03-2012, 02:22 PM