Is it murder?

[NewYorkDragons80]

I was just curious what side of the fence the people of this board are on. These are performed by the government of China.

There is the difficult question of involuntary abortion, of children desired by the parents, at the behest of the state or its agents. Whether the killing of a foetus is murder, and if not, whether it becomes murder when done against the mother's will, is the problem.

The number of deaths resulting from coerced abortions and infanticide since 1971 is estimated at over 110 million, making this perhaps the greatest crime in all of history.


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[A.J.]

The number of deaths resulting from coerced abortions and infanticide since 1971 is estimated at over 110 million, making this perhaps the greatest crime in all of history.


All those abortions and they still managed to crack the 1 billion mark?



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[Earth2RON]

me personally i hate the word"abortion".but i dont look at it has murder.i just think that people make dumb mistakes when they put their selves in a positions to mess their lives up.

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[DarkHippie]

the key word is "coersion." whether you're forced to have a baby or to abort it, both are against the principles of being pro-choice.

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This fucking Messageboard is an Abortion.


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[Pootertoot]

By "coerced" do you mean some nyquil and a wire hanger?

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[Doogie]

Didnt we have this discussion already???

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[Ninja Lesbian]

I've got no statistically evidence to back me up but i believe this chinese forced-abortion shit that i've been hearing ever since i grew up in super conservative white catholic suburban chicago is mostly bs and i'd like some legitamite stats to back up these cames. i'm might be wrong and i'll apologize if someone can give me facts but until then i'll stay neutral

[Lulu]

abortion is not murder since the fetus isn't alive in the first place. you can't kill something that never lived.

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[Arienette]

Is it murder?it seems to me that the answer to this question lies in whether or not your believe that abortion is murder. i, personally, do not. so, therefore, i wouldn't consider this to be murder. the fact that these are coerced abortions is both sickening and a disgusting violation of a woman's body and rights. all of that, however, does not make it murder.

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i would have to say that i am
pro-choice. it is just not a choice
that i can choose for myself.


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[ADF]

The thing I get out of this thread is that it sucks to live in China.

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[angrymissy]

china sucks. abortion isn't murder. we can all argue this again, but it just goes around in circles.

main point - CHINA SUCKS. US IS BETTER

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[NewYorkDragons80]

Well, the website I got this from seems to be very anti-religion so it seems to be a credible source according to your twisted mind

http://www.freedomsnest.com/rummel_murderers.html

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