urges to crack own neck way too much!

[fatylvr20]

its become a scary habit..cant seem to understand why is it i crack my neck so much. if you have any idea what this might be your majesty give me a holler. is it bad to do this?

[HordeKing1]

Many people routinely crack their necks a few times a day. The need to do so may be more apparant when you've spent some time in an uncomfortable position or in bad posture. Go GENTLY and never make sharp movements or sudden twists.

Over 60 nuerologists have asserted that imporperly rotating the neck can tear a blood vessle and cause a stroke.(This should be particularly sobering to the chiropractors who beleive that all manners of illness from ankle dislocations to pnemmonia can be treated and cured by cervical manipulation.)

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[DarkHippie]

i noticed HK that you seem to have a bit of a problem with chiropractors. You tool on them every chance you get. Yet they are doctors, and have to go through years of training, school, and them internship before they can practice. even insurances cover chiropractic adjustments. So why are you so against them? what is the reason for your prejudice? Is it because they don't shoot people up with medicine? Is it because they don't cut people open with scalpels? Is blood and drugs more acceptable treatment then spinal adjustment? I would like to know where all this hostility comes from, because it is unfounded, and you may be keeping people from getting treatment that they need because they trust you. <P>
When you have people's trust, you have a responcibility not to abuse it <P>

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[HordeKing1]

HIPPIE - I cross examined enough chiropractors to think they are at best fools.

They are not docotors, their degree is D.C. which is a doctor of chiropractic and as such they are ONLY licensed to treat the neck and back. I have yet to meet a chiropractor who didn't think that some shoulder or hip manipulation, or galvanic wave stimulation would cure everything from hangnails to pregnancy.

This is what they are taught in school along with the word for word speech they memorize on how they are better than real doctors.

They get their degree with just a 6 year program including college. You don't have to meet a bunch to know they all aren't rocket scientists.

Did I mention the hundreds of people they kill and paralyze through their manipulations each year?

Did I mention the insurance frauds that many chiropractors who I use to cross examine have been convicted of. (One made it onto channel 4 the subject of a hidden michrophone and camera insturcting claimants how to lie about where and how much it hurts to receive benefits?

Despite feeling rather contemptuous of chiropractors for their flagerant disregard of their own licensing laws and limitatiion on the "therapy" they provided, both prior and subsequent to my surgeries (1-3) I went to a DC for "treatment." The good ones said at the outset that they couldn't help me. The bad ones and that's the overwhelming majority claimed they had the "answer" - the thrice a week for life chiropractic treatment plan. LOL.

I would NEVER allow anyone I cared for to see a DC. The best you can hope for is not to be made worse.

You cannot compare MD's and DC's. Aside from the fact that MD's are infinitely better educated and understand things like science and cause and effect principles. The DC is much more like a barber who puts leaches on a wound and don't understand why it's continuously infected.

BTW, it's interesting that you alone picked up a tone of hostility. I wasn't being hostile, but rather expressing my opinion.

If I can save one person the mistake of going to a chiropractor, all the misery I heard about while taking their testimony will have served some purpose.

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[DarkHippie]

Cross-examined? sure thing Matlock.

i've never had a problem with a chiropractor (i had scoliosis as a child, but my posture improved as i got older) (and they've all had MDs as well as DCs, btw) i'm sure there are quacks out there, just ;like there are bad surgeons, bad shrinks, etc. ask my uncle about a bad surgeon. because of malpractice, he now has near total numbness in his rightleg (but under the treatment of a chiro. it has been improving)
I still go to the chiropractor every six months or so to realign my back from the rigors that life can put on it (and all the weight i carry around, i'm a big boy)

I know your back pain is extreme, and you must be very disgrultled at anything that hasn't worked for you, but there's no reason to be so pig-headed about it. Even you've said that you're not a doctor, what makes you qualified to negate the degrees of others?

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[HordeKing1]

Matlock? Never heard of him. I was a trial lawyer for about 12 years before I moved on to bigger and better things.

Your grandfather is being treated for his sciatica by a DC. New York State Law recognizes the chiropractoric lisense to apply EXCLUSIVELY to the neck and back. The treatment your grandfather is geeting is outside the scope of the dc's license and expertise.

Just thought you should know.

EDIT: If you're seeing a chiropractor only once every 6 months you're very fortunate to have escaped the thrice weekly for life treatment plan.

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[DarkHippie]

uncle, not grandfather. my grandfather was killed by Montefiore Hospital 6 days before my 18th birthday when they wheeled him past the front doors during the beginning of January as he was recovering from pnumonia. He was dead three days later. I was very close to my grandfather. I trust you'll never bring this up again.

Oh, and my uncle doesn't live in NY, he lives in Ashland, on the California, Oregon border. and it's not sciatica, he has severed nerves caused by a careless surgeon who didn't listen to my uncle when he said he didn't have any feeling in his leg, and waited an entire week before taking a second MRI.

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