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Arienette
06-06-2002, 03:31 PM
i'm curious what people's opinions on marriage are. moreover, i have been wondering about couples who are together for a long time, maybe even living together, but dont marry. why is that? i mean, in some cases, they are living the same life as they would be if they were married, so the "marriage just isn't for me" argument doesn't work. is it that it's just a piece of paper, or something else?

i have a friend who with his girl forever, they lived together, the whole deal. but they didnt get married until he went back to school and needed to be covered on her health insurance. it was an incredibly practical decision, which i guess makes sense since it's essentially just a contract. but that kind of bothers me... i think in some ways i have a pretty idealistic view or marriage and all that.

thoughts?


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ChrisTheCop
06-06-2002, 03:51 PM
As a child of divorce, one of my goals in life is to never get divorced myself. The best way to do that is to never get married in the 1st place. Gambling is fun for a week in Vegas, but at least in Vegas u only lose a few hundred. I may someday give in, but right now I can see myself being happy never being married.

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mario
06-06-2002, 03:58 PM
Now that you've mentioned, I'm getting married on july 5th, 2002(what a plug...) I think marriage is cool. I'm getting into it for the love and happiness for the both of us. We'll live long and prosper..

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Yerdaddy
06-06-2002, 04:23 PM
what Chris said.

...that and the fact that I have a face like Ozzy Osbourne's ass.

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06-06-2002, 04:41 PM
Getting married is the end game. Thats the whole
point of dating, and everything. Money, Married,
Kids, Vacation, Die. Thats the way most people
lead their lives (by doing things in that order). I
wont stick with a girl more than a week or a month,
unless i think that i might be able to marry her one
day. if i can't, whats the point?? why bother dating
people, and finding someone to love if you dont
want to marry them and spend your life with them!?
just a though. or 5... same thing.

I just dont think that its worth spending time,
money and effort on a girl who isn't worth the rest
of my life, and i'm sure when i find her, we'll both
know it... or i'll kidnap her, tie her to a radiator and
wait until she figures it out LOL. (just kidding...
unless you want me to ladies)

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DarkHippie
06-06-2002, 05:19 PM
i don't need permission from the government to validate my love for someone

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
06-06-2002, 05:50 PM
Ok, I'm married, so I obviously have nothing against the institution. Too many people rush into it. I see nothing wrong with a couple being together forever without getting married. Sometimes it just makes more sense.

What I'm against is all the hoopla of being engaged and planning the big huge wedding. If I had to do it all over again I would have just eloped.

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ADF
06-06-2002, 06:07 PM
I'm getting married next year and am looking forward to it. I've been with the same girl for six and a half years, but have never lived with her. I don't mind living together, but she thinks that ruins the "specialness" of marriage. I'm easy-going and like my alone time, so that doesn't bother me. After all this time, it'll be nice to make the next step. Plus, I'll need someone to support me once my GI Bill runs out after my first year of law school. Thank goodness she's a doctor.

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ChrisTheCop
06-06-2002, 06:11 PM
i don't need permission from the government to validate my love for someone


I agree. Nor from organized religion.

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MartiniJay
06-06-2002, 06:20 PM
I'm living with my girlfriend of 3
years. I can't really see my life
changing that much if we get
married but my girlfriend is still
pressuring me because she
thinks that there is a chance that
one day, all of a sudden, I'll come
home and decide that we should
break up. The funny thing is, she
knows that this scenario is pretty
far fetched but she still wants
the security of matrimony. She
wants to know that I will think
twice before I leaving her...
however unlikely. We will
probably get engaged pretty
soon.


ChrisTheCop

As a child of divorce, one of my
goals in life is to never get
divorced myself. The best way to
do that is to never get married in
the 1st place.


As a child of unwed parents, if
your parents aren't together, it
makes no difference whether or
not it's legal. It'll mess a child up
just the same.



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A.J.
06-06-2002, 06:23 PM
My grandparents were married 56 years and my parents will have been married for 33 years (tomorrow).

Hopefully all of us will be as lucky to find that someone who means that much to us -- whether we marry them or just live together.

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erole
06-06-2002, 06:48 PM
ok the first thing i thought of was the priest's voice in The Princess Bride <P>
Maowige, I dont see it as an end, I see it as a start. I see it as the ultimate display of consummation and commitment in a relationship. Love is supposed to grow, even through bad times. Marriage nurtures that growth by a bond which is not to be broken
No you don't need the approval of the government, or a church, or God, or family, or friends, or anyone or anything for that matter. Except, if you believe in such things. You honor certain ideas you hold true to yourself and the other person, and you do it out of respect. You do it as a proclimation of your commitment and affection to and for another human being. You do it to keep youself in check as to who you are with, and, of course, that other person is worth it. Again, I show myself way too conservative. But hell, it's me, and I love it. <P>

ShelleBink
06-06-2002, 06:53 PM
i know this sounds insane, but i can see myself married soon, and being happy while married

*watches all male single hot board members RUN*

i dont want kids now or anything, i guess im just damn afraid of being alone.

a lot more factors into this too, which i'd rather not get into.

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teesquare
06-06-2002, 06:57 PM
Marriage is the only life sentence that you can go free due to bad behaviour...:) <P>

ChrisTheCop
06-06-2002, 07:00 PM
My ex girlfriend really wanted to get married. Not to me, necessarily, but get married to SOMEONE. I think there's far too many people out there who think like that. I think marriage should be a special, RARE bond between 2 people who've found eachother and cant be without eachother. I dont think that happens to too many people, but when it does --God bless em! Most married people I know did it so they wouldnt "DIE ALONE". yuck. Everyone dies alone. Thats why caskets are built for one. (P.S. that ex girlfriend married the very next guy she dated. shmuck.)

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GodsFavoriteMan
06-06-2002, 07:02 PM
While I agree with many of the pro marriage posts, I've felt that in order for me to post, I should provide a totally original (maybe controversial?) post. <P>
How's this for an idea? No couple should be allowed to marry unless they fit these certain guidlines: They cannot run the risk of producing ugly children; no male in the relationship should be better looking or a better lover than me; the female must be a virgin before marriage (with one exception--they give it up to me), and finally, should the male of the relationship either become impotent or come to an untimely end (God rest his soul) the woman will then report to me for a few nights. <P>
Thoughts? <P>

Earth2RON
06-06-2002, 07:48 PM
im 22 now,so if i am not married by the time i reach 30 i aint getting married.........THE END!

mario.......
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JerryTaker
06-07-2002, 07:39 AM
This topic drives me nuts. I'd like to get married one day, but at the same time, I'm a realist, I know there's no more security in marraige than anything else...

At least when my girlfriend dumps me, she just leaves me heartbroken, without essentially robbing me at the same time...

and just plain cheating could lead to even worse situations, diseases and whatnot...

Personally, I've had it proven to me time and time again that I'm not good enough to be in an extended relationship, so I really can't see myself getting married, unfortunately....

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Michael Fury
06-07-2002, 07:54 AM
Remember, it takes two people to maintain a cold, loveless marriage of convenience.

And make sure you get the rights to all sex videos you make together in the pre-nuptial agreement.






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GodsFavoriteMan
06-07-2002, 08:06 AM
Quote

"And make sure you get the rights to all sex videos you make together in the pre-nuptial agreement."

Uh oh.

wilee
06-07-2002, 08:35 AM
I too consider marriage an institution. It's a little more than a piece of paper. You affirm before friends and family that this is the girl/guy for you. I see all the posts on this thread with concern for their material possessions, and I'm surprised! If you hook up with someone you can't trust to enter into a lasting relationship with, then you should look for someone else.

I like my solitude, but I enjoy the companionship of the opposite sex as well. I just haven't found the "right" one yet. Came close, though.

My parents dated for 3 months and got married. They just celebrated their 32nd anniversary a couple of months ago.

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Coco
06-07-2002, 09:15 AM
I have a lot of respect for people who know they are not capable of being in a marriage (for whatever their reason) and don't get married for "societal reasons" or "that it looks good". I don't think it is fair for that person, their spouse, or their children.

I am single, and I remember one married friend of mine said "aren't you afraid of being alone"? I said, by the time most of hit our 70's, most of us are either widowed or divorced. We usually end up alone anyway, but most people don't see it that way.

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ChrisTheCop
06-07-2002, 09:54 AM
You affirm before friends and family that this is the girl/guy for you.
...until the 2nd marriage..or 3rd...

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Hawiian shirt craig
06-07-2002, 11:12 AM
i know this sounds insane, but i can see myself
married soon, and being happy while married


hey shelle, lets go to vegas and get hitched. im
quite a catch, i promis


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Arienette
06-07-2002, 11:20 AM
i have a friend who said that he can see himself divorced, but not married. he might be one who should shy away from the entire thing...

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Now Im Starvin
06-07-2002, 11:20 AM
Marriage IMO is what you make of it. I know some marriages that are a great success and others where the people are cheating on each and hate each other. I would never marry for the wrong reason. (Money, Beauty, security, etc...) That's when you might get in trouble

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wilee
06-07-2002, 11:47 AM
...until the 2nd marriage..or 3rd...
Chris, marriage is a give and take. It's one thing if people get divorced over legitimate reasons. It's another when they let something stupid break them up. Too many people go for the quick solution nowadays. In the case of marriage, when things get a little rough, they get divorced instead of working their way through it. That's a sad state of affairs.

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FMJeff
06-07-2002, 12:23 PM
i don't need permission from the government to validate my love for someone


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A.J.
06-07-2002, 12:29 PM
Shocker: JLo's latest marriage has ended...

http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/07/people.lopez.split.ap/index.html

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nellie
06-10-2002, 05:06 AM
i want to gey married one day, though i don't know if i will. i think i may end up alone.....

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Aggie
06-10-2002, 05:40 AM
Chris, marriage is a give and take. It's one thing if people get divorced over legitimate reasons. It's another when they let something stupid break them up. Too many people go for the quick solution nowadays. In the case of marriage, when things get a little rough, they get divorced instead of working their way through it. That's a sad state of affairs.

Wilee-This is very similar to how I feel. I too am a child of divorced parents (like Chris is) and I have strong feelings about marriage. I don't think it is for everyone and I understand everyone's point about why or why not to do it. I am more concerned about when people DO do it.

Marriage is work. Plain and simple. You are not going to feel all warm and fuzzy everytime you see your spouse and it's not always going to be easy (altough there should be alot of love and passion, feelings fade in and out), but it is a committment. People flake out of marriage all the time by saying "we grew apart". To me that is usually BS, they let themselves grow apart. You have to make a conscious effort to share interests and learn and grow with your spouse so you won't "grow apart". If you are going to take the plunge and get married, at least know what you are getting into. No one starts out a marriage thinking "my spouse and I are going to grow apart and end up divorced" but that is reality. The question is what steps will you take to ensure that doesn't happen...Ok, I think I said enough! :) I personally can't wait to get married and have kids, but I know how serious a decision it is as well.

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sexy bastard
06-10-2002, 06:21 AM
aggie and chris i to am from a divorced family...and aggie you hit it on the nose my dear.
I myself see my self getting married....Hell actually i havent told alot of people but I am getting married soon....I just have to find the right women...all applications are being accepted at this time ladies
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sexy bastard
06-10-2002, 06:21 AM
aggie and chris i to am from a divorced family...and aggie you hit it on the nose my dear.
I myself see my self getting married....Hell actually i havent told alot of people but I am getting married soon....I just have to find the right woman...all applications are being accepted at this time ladies
lol

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wilee
06-10-2002, 06:22 AM
People flake out of marriage all the time by saying "we grew apart".Yeah, that kind of stuff irks me, that "growing apart" happens, and these people probably mean that they don't like to do things together. When you date, if you don't like similar things, then it is likely that you won't spend much time together. You don't have to be with each other 24/7, but you do have to be together enough to warrant a marriage.

I think there's some people out there who pull the "well we've been dating for so long, we should just get married now". Maybe, maybe not. Are they dating because they enjoy having sex with each other? Is there any real give and take in the relationship? I have a tendency to look beyond the surface of things, and other people should learn to determine their reasons for getting married in the first place.

I'm not saying that everyone who is divorced shouldn't have gotten married- sometimes, things happen and a divorce is a necessary course of action. But the statistics showing that split couples are on the rise indicates that far too many do not take this step seriously.

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AppleBoy
06-10-2002, 07:03 AM
I promised myself that I wouldn't get married because I was bored or lonely, because it was expected of me or because everyone else around me was married. So far that's true. The other side of the coin is that I've spent my time focusing on other aspects of my life so I really haven't spent too much time looking for the right girl. The fact that I'm an ugly bastard doesn't help either. Marriage is a partnership and I think a lot of people lose sight of that. If you're going to get married it should be to someone who you can trust completely and communicate well with. Ten years ago, it would have been a mistake for me to get married beacuse I wasn't ready for it. Now I'm ready. In spite of all the negative things that are said about marriage, I still think it's something that I'd like to experience before it's all over. <P>

gone
06-10-2002, 07:09 AM
or i'll kidnap her, tie her to a radiator and
wait until she figures it out LOL.


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zathrus
06-10-2002, 07:53 AM
I also come from a divoiced
family. For a long time, I did't
think I would get married. I was
afraid that I would make the
same mistakes that my parents
made. Then I met that one
special person and I came to see
that I'm not my parents and I
won't make their mistakes. Now
we are planning our wedding. I
love him more than words could
ever say.


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