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furie
07-22-2002, 01:53 PM
Seriously.
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F1Gm3nT
07-22-2002, 01:58 PM
furie... you new status has to be.... "man of one word under his own topic"
seriosly
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Aggie
07-22-2002, 02:02 PM
It really does! All you have to do is look at the NFL. They have the right idea. First of all, the league owns the marketing rights for all of the teams. Meaning every time a logo, hat, jersey, etc. is sold, the league gets the money and splits it from there. The Yankees are the best selling hat/jersey whatever and how is a Milwauke Brewers organization going to compete with that?
Second, just look at how evenly matched the teams are. Every week almost anyone can win it. It makes it a lot more exciting, fan friendly, and makes it a lot harder to "buy" a championship.
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Spooky Tooth
07-22-2002, 02:21 PM
Salary caps are un-American. If a city can't afford payroll it should not have a major league team.
DarkHippie
07-22-2002, 03:01 PM
a salary cap will make the game more competitive, but there should be some sort of grandfather clause or the players will never go for it
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stump12
07-23-2002, 12:47 PM
yeah if there was a cap the yanks wouldnt have won so many lately.
gone postal!
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Michael Fury
07-23-2002, 12:51 PM
Fuckin' right they do. The Major League Baseball Players Association is blocking salary cap reform that helped restore the NFL and NBA to competitive health. The players portray themselves as the little guys. But I don't know of too many unions where the average annual salary is over $2 million.
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furie
07-23-2002, 04:33 PM
Salary caps are
un-American.
are you calling the NFL
unAmerican?
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FUNKMAN
07-23-2002, 04:37 PM
baseball needs to have the fans STOP going to the game...
it's the League, not just players... Salaries are excessive on both sides (players and owners)and the fan EATS IT!
F baseball for now til your ticket costs 5 bucks, instead of your 20 cent glass of beer costing 5 bucks...
this goes for most Professional Sports...
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stump12
07-25-2002, 02:37 PM
Right on Funkman if it were only that easy.
unfortunatly people will never stop going to see games.
gone postal!
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Cybersoldier
07-25-2002, 06:38 PM
that not going to happen for a while the player's union would make a big deal of a salary cap. It might help some of the team become more a challenge to the big teams.
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F1Gm3nT
07-26-2002, 10:42 PM
are you calling the NFL
unAmerican
it's rugby with gear!!! COMON!!
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Heavy
08-03-2002, 07:12 PM
The Yankees are the best selling hat/jersey whatever and how is a Milwauke Brewers organization going to compete with that?
Um have a great design and win 27 championships is a good start.
In basketball you can go over the cap if you do it to resign a member of your own team........Yea the yankees wouldve only had jeter, Williams, Pettite, The duke, Rivera, Oniel, um Posada......Soriano.....Spencer, even Clemens in the trade for Wells couldve been worked out to fit the cap. Giambis the only big name "free agent" theyve picked up and this latest Yankee dynasty isalready in stone so when we win it again this year dont nobody bitch and say its because of Giambi.
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furie
08-03-2002, 07:33 PM
it's rugby with gear!!!
COMON!!
and baseball is cricket on
steriods
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Earth2RON
08-03-2002, 10:12 PM
and baseball is cricket on
steriods
i grew up playing cricket:)
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Fallon
08-12-2002, 01:31 PM
Players Fail to Set Strike Date
CHICAGO (AP) - Baseball players backed off setting a strike date on Monday, and delayed making a decision until Friday.
Players said they saw enough progress so that they hoped an agreement could be completed by Friday.
Atlanta's Tom Glavine, a member of the union's executive board, said players are prepared to give the negotiating process "every chance to succeed."
"We feel like there's a window of opportunity to get something done in the next several days and we're willing to explore that," he said following a 3-hour meeting of the board.
Union head Donald Fehr said: "You establish a date when you believe it is essential to reach an agreement, bearing in mind that a strike is the last thing the players want. And we are not at that point yet."
Fehr and commissioner Bud Selig spoke by telephone.
"We discussed the progress of bargaining and what the current situation was," Fehr said.
Negotiators planned to resume talks Tuesday in New York. Last week, the sides agreed on a $100,000 raise in the minimum salary to $300,000 and agreed to mandatory testing for steroids.
But the sides still are apart on the key issues of increased sharing of local revenue among the 30 teams and management's desire for a luxury tax on high-payroll clubs.
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Jackie Sloan
08-12-2002, 01:35 PM
Baseball needs revenue sharing, unsuccessful owners need to stop blaming successful owners, and baseball also needs a minimum team salary level to insure jerf offs like Bud Selig do not intentionally pocket profits while purposely putting an inferior product on the field, thereby almost guaranteeing consistent losing. Remember how many fans teams like Milwaukee and Kansas City used to draw? Oh wait, everythings George Steinbrenners fault I forgot.
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Doogie
08-12-2002, 01:52 PM
Well said Jackie...believe it or not the players are in the right on this one. As they were in 1969, 1975, 1981, and believe it or not 1994. Imagine a buisness where the owners made profits and refused to help out the pension system of its workers. Where the workers had to establish tere own pensions through the union and you have one of the situations that the players face...it is just difficult for us to understand a 20 million dollar ballplayer who wants to strike. But does that same player/employee deserve unfair treatment cause of his salary?? Is he to be a slave for that company/team?? Of course not, and anyone who deals with labor unions should understand this...If you want more insight into the understanding of baseball's labor troubles read Marvin Millers book:
And Joe Morgan's book as well...these two go into the issues facing players in the past, and how these problems persist today...
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furie
08-12-2002, 02:08 PM
who needs a pension if you make 5 million a year?
Let them get their own mutial funds.
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fatty
08-12-2002, 02:13 PM
Giambis the only big name "free agent" theyve picked up
wow. i mean... wow.
uh, wow.
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Doogie
08-12-2002, 02:13 PM
who needs a pension if you make 5 million a year?
It isnt so much for the guy who makes 5 Million a year now...it for the retired players like Don Drysdale, and the past superstars who had nothing in there pension plan. It also for the player that spends thirteen years in the majors and never makes higher than 500 thou a year...I know that sounds outrageous, but think how much goes to agents and others...player has to have something for 20 years after they retire...
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fatty
08-12-2002, 02:14 PM
and this latest Yankee dynasty isalready in stone so when we win it again this year
to win it again this year you would have had to win it last year, which you didn't.
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fatty
08-12-2002, 02:15 PM
has anyone noticed i'm a bitter mets fan? i didn't think so.
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furie
08-12-2002, 02:48 PM
It also for the player that spends thirteen years in the majors and never makes higher than 500 thou a year...I know that sounds outrageous, but think how much goes to agents and others...player has to have something for 20 years after they retire...
once again. mutial funds, 401k plans
not having a pension plan, but still making even 500,000 a year is not an excuse to stike. Millions on Americans have to plan for the next 20 years for themselves, with little or no help from their employers.
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Heavy
08-12-2002, 03:27 PM
quote:
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Giambis the only big name "free agent" theyve picked up
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wow. i mean... wow.
uh, wow.
Ok lets hear all the other big names theyve picked up
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08-12-2002, 03:32 PM
There needs to be a salary cap in every sport. Im not sure about which ones have it or not. In hockey - Jarimor Jagar is getting paid 33 million a year. THATS CRAZY! Thats why tickets for good seats are 110 and 120. The most a guy should be paid is 15 a year thats still a whole bunch of money.
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furie
08-12-2002, 04:23 PM
now just to play devil's advocate to myself, salary caps can be a bad thing to.
MLS has a salary cap of $2 million for the entire team(not including the staff) which is why we lose so many good players to europe.
So, I'm for a cap, but I understand these guys need to make their money.
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