Signs

[Pootertoot]

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Well, I saw this movie, and once more, that motherfucker got me. Mr. Shamalamadingdong crafts a fine film, but he ALWAYS fucks it up in the end, and I ALWAYS HATE him for it. But I'll see the next one, too.

My problem with the movie: It went from being a nice little scifi thriller to M. Knight's showcase of his belief system.

The crux of the whole damn movie is that there are no coincidences, we're all just unaware actors in god's Truman Show. God's apparently always watching over us, and in the end, he's got our back.

But not the aliens. If there's one thing this movie taught me, it's once and for all, god loves earthlings most out of all his creations. USA! USA!

Ugh. Trust me, this is not just another atheist hating all things religious in movies, that's idiotic. I can make the necessary suspension of disbelief, such as thinking that aliens communicate on the same wavelength as baby monitors, including religious motifs (hell, La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc is probably one of the most moving films I've ever seen, and you couldn't have more god in that movie if the lord himself came on it), but this movie should've had a disclaimer: "Disappointing religious ending. All those that don't need to be comforted about not being alone in times of hardship need not purchase a ticket."

Plus, just watching an alien getting the shit beat out of it with a baseball bat was just sad. And then the water? The aliens obviously knew about it. Protection? And why no weapons during an ATTACK?! Sure, it was a raid, but who raids somewhere with just poison that can only be administered within inches of someone.

Eh, now I'm just ranting.

Don't see the movie if you're expecting straight scifi. It's preachy.

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[Death Metal Moe]

Thanks for the heads up. I probably wasn't gonna see it, but now I DEFINETLY won't! I HATE being preached at.

Make good movies, and stop laying your lame beliefs on us.

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[Earth2RON]

I HATE being preached at
im with you on that one moe,i say if people wanna preach go to church!

im glad that i dont go wasting my money on movies that are pumped up to be good.

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[Doogie]

Ok I saw it tonight, and it had me riveted up till the last ten minutes...At the last ten Minutes I was laughing my ass off. I couldnt believe how ridiculous it was to see the whole baseball bat thing. When it ended I was laughing and saying, what the f*** was that??!! The whole Goddamn thing is great up till then...and please can we get some aliens that look really cool. Do they always have to be the cliche anal probing farmer aliens...

Also if there are UFOs above cities, where the fuck are the F-18's and F-14's?? Maverick and Goose should be blasting those cocksuckers out of the sky...And yes the aliens dying from water is really gay, and I knew the water at the beginning was going to have some significance at the end. Didnt know it was going to vape aliens, but knew was going to mean something...I thought there would be a Beastmaster ending where the alien in the house was his wife reincarnated or some shit like that (remember beastmaster had those people with leathery hides on there arms which devoured people, but turned out they were his father reincarnated)...See it if you wanna a good chuckle at the end...

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[blakjeezis]

I saw this movie last night, and like Doogie, was riveted until the last bit. The sounds in it were amazing, and it was nice to see Mel Gibson in a different kind of role. The ending I, too, thought was laughable, but as far as the message goes I don't have a problem with it. I don't neccessarily agree with it, but it shows the filmmaker is doing something from his heart and that he cares about. It isn't inherently bad.

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[Sheeplovr]

did you guys go together??



So why is a dot head who prays to cows telling us about god?

and how come we are more important then aleins its madness

unless its susposed to be a test from god



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[Crickett]

This sounds like the worst movie since Battlefield: Earth.



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[Lulu]

This sounds like the worst movie since Battlefield: Earth.
ugh! that had to be one of the worse movies of all time. i can't believe i wasted $10 on that piece of trash.

but signs was defiantly much better than battlefield earth. the ending was pretty weak, but the rest of the movie was solid. the really weird thing was though that joaquin phoenix was almost like the comedy relief.

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i liek battlefeild earth its nto so bad if you dont pay for it and watch it on HBO for free

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[Lisa Croft]

Warning: Pointless blabbering below. Oh yeah, and I'm also drunk.
PanterA and I saw it last night and I must say, I have NEVER been so scared in a movie theater in my entire life. When the alien's on the roof! When it gets its fingers chopped off! When the little spanish kids video tape one! When the brother accidentally knocks out the light bulb! I was about 2.5 seconds from crying and I couldn't sleep at all last night. Overall, I loved it, EXCEPT for that goddamn ending. I almost wish they had never really shown the alien, because I usually prefer psychological thrillers over movies that show you everything. However, if I sat through that whole thing NOT to eventually see the alien, I would have been equally disappointed. For the life of me, I can't come up with an ending that would have satisfied me. Anyone?? I'm seriously bothered. Also, the constant jokes got to me, mainly because they were actually funny. I found myself confused. Should I be scared or be laughing? Someone make sense of this for me. I thought there would be a Beastmaster ending where the alien in the house was his wife reincarnated or some shit like that I thought the exact same thing. Thank god we were wrong.

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[DC Reed]

aliens just dont pack up and leave earth for no reason, this movie sucked.

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[FUNKMAN]

and watch it on HBO for free


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[fezident]

That was a friggin' great movie, guys!!! Not only was it great all by itself, but I thought it was waaaay better then UNBREAKABLE, which totally sucked deek!
The thing about SIGNS was that it sort of preyed on what we all thought were hoaxes. Crop circles really ARE markers for spaceships and aliens really ARE going to be hostile. I thought it was pretty solid.
The fact that the aliens looked exactly like the cliche "anal probers" is because, they ARE real(in this movie) and that's what they actually look like. That's why all the aliens looked alike in that book the little kid was reading! People who had seen them were all describing the same creature. If you think aboot it, it wouldn't make sense if the aliens DIDN'T look like that!
As for the water thing; that wasn't lame. Sure, maybe the aliens knew aboot it, but they would've/could've avoided water the same way humans avoid fire.

The part with the baseball bat fit into the whole "big picture" part of the movie. It was as if Phoniex had been training his whole life for those few swings. It all made sense to me.

Strong movie!!

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

I saw the movie yesterday. It was a bit of a let down. It had a few funny moments (the tin foil hats, very funny) and the little girl was just the cutest thing (and I don't like kids. That says a lot).

The premise was weak. Aliens can be brought down by water? Ummm, wouldn't the aliens have done SOME research before they picked our planet that is covered mostly by water? What happens when it rain or snows? And a baby monitor? We can pick up alien signals with a baby monitor? That reminds me of the silly premise of Independence Day when Jeff Goldblum loads a virus into the space ship's database. So alien space ships are Windows compatible?

Although I did find fault with it, I do have to admit I found it somewhat entertaining. I thought Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix were both well cast.

And hey-- was it ever revealed to us WHY the aliens were here in the first place???

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This message was edited by Alice S. Fuzzybutt on 8-12-02 @ 11:06 AM

[42nd-delay]

I really liked this movie. I don't feel like it was really preachy. I mean, the central question of the movie is whether you believe that things or meant to be or whether everything is coincidental. At the end, you're free to decide whether the stuff that happened was a coincidence or not. Obviously, the director thinks there aren't coincidences, but it's not like Mel Gibson starts addressing the audience at the end of the film and tells you to join so-and-so church in Hollywood, California!

I agree with the others about how effective it was in being a scary movie. The suspense in the movie was amazing.

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[Zipgun]

I just wish that Michael Showalter stood up and said "You can't take over my planet aliens! I'm Doug and I'm outta heeeeeeeeeere."

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[Pootertoot]

Alice, the worst part of it all is that they DID know about water ahead of time, which is why they didn't land near it, but I guess they spent all their money on transportation to bother on anything like raincoats, or even a simple sidearm to protect them from failed baseball players and Jesus.

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When did farmers stop watering their crops? <P>

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

And why would you want to stay in your house if there are aliens in your corn field?

And I think that alien wasn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to get locked into a pantry? And it LET Joaquin Phoenix pummel the crap out of it.



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[Doogie]

was it ever revealed to us WHY the aliens were here in the first place???


Yes they were here on a mission of conquest...the McCulkin clone figured that out...

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[Hosp]

Jesus will kill your wife just so she can let you know to tell your loser ex-minor league baseball playing brother to "Swing Away" at an injured unarmed alien in your house.

Jesus is way cool.

Jesus will give your daughter a life long phobia of contaminated water so that a house of 4 people would have 40 glasses of water sitting around the house (even though they do the dishes at least twice in the time frame) just so they can be thrown at an injured unarmed alien.

Jesus is way cool.

I thought a better ending would have been to have everyone in the house be killed by fire because they trapped themselves inside the house because of their phobia. There was the picture of the farm house in Morgan's book with 3 burnt corpses in it which would have been the creepy connection.

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[Pootertoot]

I thought a better ending would have been to have everyone in the house be killed by fire because they trapped themselves inside the house because of their phobia. There was the picture of the farm house in Morgan's book with 3 burnt corpses in it which would have been the creepy connection.


And then one of the aliens lights a cig on Mel Gibson's smoldering corpse, then looks vaguely up at the cosmos and says "I'm getting tired of these...<i><b>Star Wars...</i></b>

The End.

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[Ryan the Great]

how stupid do you have to be to get locked into a pantry?

when i was 3 i got locked in the pantry. my dad had to break down the door to get me out. true story.

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[Jobberific]

I enjoyed this movie. I didn't like it as much as Unbreakable but I liked it more then Sixth Sense. I'm not a big Mel Gibson fan, but I thought he was fantastic in it.
Heres my thing. Since the whole story is told from Gibsons point of view, it comes across as god did the whole invasion thing just to restore Gibsons faith. And if that that isthe case, then god is a dick! I mean kill all thoughs people, almost kill that Macualy Culkins retarded cousin twice; all just to restore some lapsed reverends faith? Seems like a bit of overkill to me.

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[Yerdaddy]

Besides the fact that this was an infomercial for god, there were other major flaws that made this a crappy movie.

The worst one for me was that almost everything the people did was absurd. Gibson does almost nothing to protect his children. Once they learn that aliens are really coming and that they have a landing site 20 yards from their house, they dont leave. The kids vote to stay? You go anyway, dumbass.

They board up the windows and stand helpless in the livingroom and wait to die? You don't look for weapons? Where'd the hammers go? "We're out of boards? Guess we won't be needing these hammers anymore." Then, when they are leaving the basement, they have to remove the axe from the doorknob, but they walk up the stairs empty-handed?? Fucking ridiculous! That was the whole movie too: people doing unrealistic things in the face of danger - like old-school horror movies where the scantily-clad girl can only run around the house screaming when there's a killer inside. I don't want to see Mel Gibson as that dumb girl.

Then there's the aliens. Water makes them melt when it touches them, but they have no problem breathing our air, which is full of water? And why would they choose to attack a planet that is 70% water? And with no weapons or protection of any kind?

The movie had good scares, but that's not enough to build a movie around. It was a majorly flawed story built around a parable about faith and the clarvoyancy of dying people. Just awful.

Rent "The Devil's Backbone" for a good horror movie with a message. I hate message movies, but it's excellent.

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[Zipgun]

how stupid do you have to be to get locked into a pantry?

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when i was 3 i got locked in the pantry. my dad had to break down the door to get me out. true story.




Well?...

Out with it man!

How stupid DO you have to be?! Since you know first hand!

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[Ryan the Great]

Well?...

Out with it man!

How stupid DO you have to be?! Since you know

lol. the most recent IQ test i took said mine is 108. but the one i took a few months ago said it was 159. so im going to go with of your IQ is between 108-159, steer clear of pantry's

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[erole]

i liked it. you don't have to make a perfect movie, just a great movie. this guy M. Night Shama-meka-leka-hi-meka-hienie-ho, he took a ton out of War of the Worlds and was honest about the steal. but like War of the Worlds, you can pick and prod the shit out of the movie with mistakes and loop holes. why do they do this? why did they do that?
that's not the point.
there's no real "i see dead people" kid, no "mr. glass," and no aliens that fart green gas outta their wrists. it's purely entertainment with a mix of thought and humanity. M. Dark Outside Shamashimmer is going for the big time director position...he's just entertaining.
the movie was simply what people have been saying, loss of faith, and fate. space aliens didn't come to just test ex-preacher guy's faith. his wife didn't just die to mouth off a couple creepy words. it's more, what do we do with what we have. what do we do with what happens to us. this guy is a preacher, and the most important thing in his life should be - god. he put family over his calling. erased god out of his life...for him, a big no no. why did she die? go ahead and speculate...that's the fun. it's like the rest of the movie, it makes you think...and that's why I like MSN Shamamiester. no right answers, things happen, and the supernatural is fun to play with.
Gibson chose to believe in the end, of something more than just being alone without hope. he was just one story in a global crisis. the story is about him, not aliens, and not what happened everywhere else. the story is in his home, not running away from it. we never really left his home because the story is of his home. we shouldn't leave it, that family shouldn't leave it.
i thought it was EXCELLENT how everything fell into place at the end.
By the way, that video scene with the alien walking by - scary scary scary...that fucked me up in a big way. never freaked out that much since the end of Blair Witch Project.

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[Reephdweller]

I just saw this today.
I'm glad I waited, I didn't like it at all, it was very slow and a real waste of talent in Mel Gibson and Joaquim Phoenix.

Also, I'm tired of these movies this guy from the Sixth Sense makes where these kids are so way more adept at things than adults, and are real deep. I think this guy is quickly starting to be as predicatable as Speilberg in movie styles.

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[Meatball]

changing directions for a moment..i saw this movie also, but was more concerned in trying to remember WHAT REALLY CAUSED those crop circles. I know i saw a whole DATALINE or 20/20 on it, i just dont remember if it was a bunch of guys or unsolved phenomena.

anyone know?

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[Reephdweller]

changing directions for a moment..i saw this movie also, but was more concerned in trying to remember WHAT REALLY CAUSED those crop circles. I know i saw a whole DATALINE or 20/20 on it, i just dont remember if it was a bunch of guys or unsolved phenomena.

anyone know?

I believe it's been proven that these are a man-made phenomenon.

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[HordeKing1]

Most have been proven to be manmade. Others remain unexplained.

As to the movie. Aside from the religious nonsense in it, the movie failed b/c it wasn't scary in the least, it had gaping plot holes, it never explained why the aliens needed crop circles to guide them after finding their way accross the light years to earth, there was no tension, (hence no catharsis) and no feeling at all for the characters. Above all it was slow, dull and BORING.

I think M Knight receives far more credit for his movies than he deserves. Even the critically acclaimed 6th sense (a fair movie) was a big disappointment, b/c it was painfully obvious what was going on 1/2 hour into the movie.

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[TheMojoPin]

The majority of those explained as "manmade" are in Britain. A group of pranksters claimed to be responsible and demonstrated to a news program how they did it. But even they can't account for all the crop circles in the UK alone, much less the rest of the world, unless they're secret a group of billionaires with an army of jets and vehicles at their disposal.

Like most UFO sightings, I'd bet at least 75% of these things are fake...but some are just too remote, too bizarre or too perfect to have been done by just the average Joe Schmoe. Add in the facts that they've been appearing for hundreds of years and that you have circles appearing almost simultaneously across the world that are practically identical or eerily parallel, and you've got a recipe for something weird...

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