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Heavy
08-23-2002, 03:54 PM
This early report I hear about approx 25 people showing up for the O&A/ R&F/WNEW rally is to me, embarressing. We all need to come up with something that accurately portrays the support these 2 shows have.
I suggest for one thing, putting different times/locations in the voting booth to see when and where the most of us will show up.
I dont think theres a better way to spend $225 then on an event like this. Decent prize for maybe a make shift WOW contest???? We know people will show up for some T&A.
We should use this thread to shoot around more suggestions.......And dare I suggest this be mirrored on the O&A board....... we're all on the same team

Anyway next Saturday is my suggestion. We will all sill be upset about O&A going even if R&F are still on and even more pissed if R&F are gone by that time. ONE BIG ASS WOW AFRO Party/ rally is in order peole. Get your shit together and start replying

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Ryan the Great
08-23-2002, 04:00 PM
ouch 25 people?? thats hardly better than the don and mike rally. maybe we should make a national rally with numerous rallys of 100s or 1000s of people across the nation from the cities were o&a were syndicated in. how cool would that be. or maybe we could get a crapload of people together and make a big giant human chain that says O&A or AFRO or something across the united states that can be seen from space.

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ChickenHawk
08-23-2002, 04:29 PM
there were at least 100 people
there at one point. whoever said
25 was LYING.


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Heavy
08-23-2002, 05:14 PM
Well 100 is better then 25 but it's still a bad showing. We need to do something big..........Maybe some of these bands will put on a show somewhere........that with a WoW contest and beer sohuld get much more

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TheMojoPin
08-23-2002, 06:17 PM
I dont think theres a better way to spend $225 then on an event like this. Decent prize for maybe a make shift WOW contest????

Not bad, except that money is going to be used for RONFEZ.net activities, as in "THE RON & FEZ SHOW". Personally, I liked O&A, and they got a really shitty deal, and while that's too bad, I don't think R&F need to go down with them.

Can we lock all these O&A threads so people stick to the "official" one?

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shadowsmythe1
08-23-2002, 06:28 PM
Yes, get this on the O and A board. I don't know who sends out the ronfez.net emails, but you can't organize a big rally when you email at one am for a rally at three pm the next day when some of us work till five. I wan't to help, but let's get this going big, not a rerun of "let's bring back psycho dad" Married with children effort. To make it work, it'll have to be well organized and ongoing. Many people will fall by the way side. Sorry, but I think people will just take this as an acceptable loss. Want it to work? Big and long.

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Rob the Importer
08-23-2002, 06:29 PM
I hate to say it, but a bunch of people standing out in the street chanting

Ryan the Great
08-23-2002, 06:33 PM
I hate to say it, but a bunch of people standing out in the street chanting

I HATE CLIFFHANGERS!!!

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Heavy
08-23-2002, 06:36 PM
Not bad, except that money is going to be used for RONFEZ.net activities, as in "THE RON & FEZ SHOW". Personally, I liked O&A, and they got a really shitty deal, and while that's too bad, I don't think R&F need to go down with them.

Can we lock all these O&A threads so people stick to the "official" one?


This idea is coming from ronfez.net so wont this gathering be a ronfez.net event?
That was just a suggestion anyway, it seems like a good idea.

And why should all these "O&A" threads be locked so they can all be put into the official one? how the hell are people gonna comunicate on seperate subject if theyre talking about the church, FCC, WNEW, O&A, R&F, Tom Lykis, todays rally, whats in the news etc AND trying to get a successfull rally/party/event put together? Its too many damn seperate conversations and ideas for one thread

Lets put all the wretsling threads in one Official one.
Ridiculous

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nortonfan
08-23-2002, 06:44 PM
i am in for anything to help o and a out!

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Contra
08-23-2002, 06:48 PM
i was at the really. although i thought it was pathedic i can understand that the word really didnt get out in time. however there were people there that didnt even have a radio or a computer, the saw it on the news and came down. now thats dedication! we need to get a bigger rally i agree, and i will be at that one too!!


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Freeze
08-23-2002, 06:51 PM
I would love to come but some people have a busy schedule. CAn some one start a petition.Th

Heavy
08-23-2002, 06:52 PM
Thats what Im talking about Contra, to little notice and people have work etc. So you guys that wanna support this, give your ideas. Next Saturday sound good to you people????

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TheMojoPin
08-23-2002, 07:34 PM
And why should all these "O&A" threads be locked so they can all be put into the official one?

Because that's how the mods have been trying to handle ALL the major events that involve the show on this board...even one's that have to do with events on the R&F show itself!

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Heavy
08-23-2002, 07:38 PM
This event is seperate from any other on this board. once we get to the point of this actually happening, make official "who needs a ride to the rally" threads if you want to. Putting this in that one thread will surely get it lost and nothig will ever come of it.

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JustinR
08-24-2002, 03:42 PM
The rally was a success in my mind. Dont let the media fool you to thinking that it was less.

At one point we had close to 80 people. That is big for something on last minute's notice.

When i get the pics up, you'll see. Everything on TV looks either bigger or smaller depending on where you put the lens.

And there should be a rally of massive poportions. It should be planned several weeks in advance.

My advice for setting up it, its really important for people to behave yourselves. If one bad thing happens the media will be all over it like the St. Louis Rams secondary. People were asking female passerby to "whip them out". That's fine at a road show, but that would show how disrepectful we are. I tried to shut some of them up, but they didnt get the message.

And when talking to the media. Get to the point. From what i heard pogiant 5 minute speeches were turned into 2-3 second soundbites.

Now i know it sucks, but the news people are trying to condense it down to 2-3 minutes for broadcast. Be very careful.

Who ever is planning a large rally should contact administrors from this and every other board. A united message would be powerful.

.....but hopefully O&A will be somewhere else by then.

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DarkHippie
08-24-2002, 04:16 PM
When i was there, there were at least 100 people, and i heard that it had been much larger before hand (it must've been, because there were many signs that had been dropped onto the ground)

I'm a veteran of many a protest, and i can honestly say that the media will do anything to make a protest look ineffective and foolish. Why? because the majority of people sitting at home didn't proest, and want to feel good about themselves. making protesters look stupid makes the passive and ignorant look smart

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Heavy
08-24-2002, 04:32 PM
I think at this point the term "protest" is too strong a word. I'm thinking of a really big rally / party. Imagine if you will thousands of fans showing up in one place at one time because of whats happened to WNEW.

It could be a simple as someone on the board knowing someone in a band and hanging a concert in a park or something.....But nobody is giving any feedback on this......

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DC Reed
08-24-2002, 04:47 PM
girls were all pretty, but ryans right. This has to be big.

I can gaurntee that the DC listeners would be up for defending R+F down here, as well as O+A. If we just set a date we could get this ammased, even make fuck INFINITY t-shirts.

DC Reed is now the DC Guerrila Activist.....remeber how i wanted to paint that shed? well lets just say its gonna get done this week......

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nutsweat
08-24-2002, 04:53 PM
this definitly needs to happen , i think saturday is good too . it cannot turn into a road show thats crucial. need to get the word out, i doubt ron & fez can plug it on air , so? we should use any one with a mass e mail thing to use that maybe see if anyone at the show could send out an email on the d/l. maybe some cops who were into the show could help some how. and anyone high profile FRIENDS OF THE SHOW help out some one find some one. we need to show support for o & a and send a message to these fuckin people like william donahue and these hannity like conservatives who think they fuckin know everthing especially whats good for us these people are the lowest form of people on the planet , dont let them fool ya they aint got a moral bone in there fuckin bodies. was it a little harsh? ya , but come on this is really about the catholic church and government(fcc remember appointed not elected )((michael powell yes colin' s son is the head of that )) using their power and influence to control shit , i say hey shit heads change the fuckin station ,i mean i guess i would see their point if 102.7 was the only station but its not , you guys have another 800,000 stations that are under your grip of power leave one for us !!!!!!!!!!

rowanprofz
08-24-2002, 05:53 PM
Just an idea - what about spreading this out to Philly? O&A had huge followings in Philly / South Jersey. If enough manpower gets popped in on this it can be a lot bigger than just a NYC type thing

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DarkHippie
08-24-2002, 05:55 PM
one of the grass roots movements i was invoed in did this:

each member made 10 flyers (ours could just say "save O and A") they posted the flyers on telephone poles, on pay phones, on community bulletin boards, etc. It's simple, and reaches alot of people. best of all, it bypasses the media, so that they can't pervert it. Remember, the media is our enemy: they want nothing more than to make O and A and Infinity look bad, because Infinity is owned by Viacom

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nutsweat
08-24-2002, 06:00 PM
some one find paul the pilot tell him to drop flyers over long island , jersey , and philly. or anybody with a plane we need to make this a topic on the board not a thread .

Heavy
08-24-2002, 06:35 PM
Good idea hippie, no all we need is a bunch of people to doit......And figure out a time and place

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JustinR
08-24-2002, 08:38 PM
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the_dogwalker
08-25-2002, 05:55 PM
I agree with ya on all counts
hippie! I too was in the
"grassroots movement" for
nearly 10 years. We should
definitely chat sometime. I do
think the rally was a success, but
we succeeded in the wrong
ways. While we did manage to
get millions of dollars of free TV
time to talk about our issue,
unfortunately, not everybody can
be expected to be an expert at
popping off what we former
rabble rousers call "sound bites".
these all important phrases are
usually one or two sentences
long and are usually
painstakingly written by us
hippies at 3 am the morning
before a rally so that no matter
how we say them, the person
saying them to the media doesn't
look like a complete idiot and
therefore make our issue look
trite. While I really thought that
a lot of folks had some really
important and great things to say
to the media, unfortunately the
media only cares about making
us impassioned folks look idiotic,
which is exactly what they did on
the day of the rally.

What I think we really need if this
campaign is to continue, is some
organization!!!! we need to
assign folks to be our "media
spokespeople" and train them in
the art of the soundbite, we
need a lawyer to act as out
"police liaison" so I dont get
pushed face first into the
sidewalk face first again by a cop
who I didn't hear ask me to
move...WE NEED FOLKS TO
ORGANIZE!!!!!!!

JustinR
08-25-2002, 06:47 PM
you know we have to get the "other" board involved, but i think they are too busy try to imitate norton or playtime in the Junkyard.

I dont care if you laugh at me or not, but Wackbag.com has probally the most soild discussion on this.

Approach them. The children on oa.com cant handle something complex.


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Contra
08-25-2002, 07:13 PM
if been hearing in conversation that sept. 6th, 14th, and 21st are rally dates. anyone backing that up?

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Contra

DC Reed
08-25-2002, 07:16 PM
Mojo and I are busy getting R+F back here, but im willing to help down here in "dixie" in anyway possible.

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Ryan the Great
08-25-2002, 07:28 PM
Give up stand up! Dont give up the fight!

dont u mean Get up Stand up

nice sigpic Reed

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Heavy
08-25-2002, 07:40 PM
Hey reeds sig pic gave me an idea

Anybody have the ability to make a "Wanted" poster?

Imagine those fuckers up all over NYC...."Wanted" with a nice pic of ONA. Not as in wanted for a crime but someone could think up a catchy slogan like theyre wanted by NYC for good radio.....Think about it

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the_dogwalker
08-25-2002, 09:40 PM
A "Wanted" poster seems like a
great Idea in theory, but
unfortunately it might send the
wrong message to folks who
wouldn't get the context of why
O and A are "Wanted".
unfortunately, most folks who
would glance at a wanted poster
slapped on a streetlight would
probably just assume it was
posted by the religious right and
move on...just my thoughts. I
think that a graphic presentation
of O & A portraying them in a
more positive light might be more
effective, here's just a few of my
ideas...

An american flag with O&A's
grinning faces up in the corner
where the stars are s'posed to
go. with the caption "Defend Free
Speech!"

O&A behind bars with the same
caption.

O&A's faces with the caption
"Free the airwaves!"

any thoughts? please feel free to
email me at
chriswagz2002@yahoo.com

let's get this motherfuckin' thing
goin'!

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oppressor, It is Taken by the
Oppressed!"

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gone
08-25-2002, 09:46 PM
i wouldnt worry about this too much

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Heavy
08-25-2002, 10:01 PM
hey dog, would you be able to print out these tings or atleast use some program to get a design made up?

And on this wanted poster, over there pictures in big letter could be something like "on NY radio". People who know them will get it and peoploe who dont know them wnt care anyway.....and we could care lss if theydo

No matter what the flyer says its gotta have the location date an time of this vent......which means we need to come up with an event............

LENT: I tried to get on that other site but apparently im already a member and im wiating for my user Id and password to be mailed o me, but ill get that site tomorrow........If you would be so kind as to hook up that whack site wit this idea and find out what they think then great and thanks.

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JustinR
08-25-2002, 10:14 PM
LENT: I tried to get on that other site but apparently im already a member and im wiating for my user Id and password to be mailed o me, but ill get that site tomorrow........If you would be so kind as to hook up that whack site wit this idea and find out what they think then great and thanks.



um, i had my self banned from there. (actually twice) not because of the rules, but because its not fun posting there anymore. its a long story in itself.

Anyway, i'll say this, dont get intimidated by the norton wannabes (and i use that term loosely). You might get shot down or heckled, but If they dont want to go through the plan like civilized adults, that's fine.

I'd also consult foundry too when plans are more concrete.

If you want AOL IM Floydswat. He supposedly owns the board.

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Heavy
08-25-2002, 10:22 PM
You were banned from whackbag?

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the_dogwalker
08-25-2002, 11:10 PM
hey wad-

I'll do my best to see what I can
come up with concerning some
kind of flier. I got a looong day
tommorrow so it might be a few
days before I have a final draft of
something. in the meantime...we
should set up a time we can all
meet up in the chat room and
discuss strategy for another
"event". I'm gonna try and get
some sleep. seizures all later.