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nellie
09-30-2002, 11:01 AM
these ar the three i've heard being mentioned the most:

derek lowe-> 21-8, 2.58 era, 32 gs, 219 ip, 166 hits, 65 runs, 63 er, 12 hr, 12 hbp, 48 bb, 127 so

pedro martinez-> 20-4, 2.26 era, 30 gs, 199.1 ip, 144 hits, 62 runs, 50 er, 13 hr, 15 hbp, 40 bb, 239 so

barry zito-> 23-5, 2.75 era, 35 gs, 229 ip, 189 hits, 79 runs, 70 er, 24 hr, 9 hbp, 78 bb, 182 so

i think derek lowe is the most deserving becsue he did so well in his first full season as a starter...

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JerryTaker
09-30-2002, 11:13 AM
Too bad the sports writers all want to lump all the awards on Oakland, just like they did Ichiro last year...

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09-30-2002, 02:09 PM
Pedro Martinez had the better season.

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Tall_James
09-30-2002, 03:47 PM
Pedro Martinez had the better season.
But the other two didn't punk out on their final start of the season.

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Fallon
09-30-2002, 04:17 PM
But the other two didn't punk out on their final start of the season

Pedro gets injured almost every year, no reason for him to make a useless start.

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TheGameHHH
09-30-2002, 04:19 PM
I'd give the award to Lowe.

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nellie
09-30-2002, 04:58 PM
Pedro Martinez had the better season.

but derek lowe never pitched that many innings in one season his entire career before this season....plus derek pitched more innings than pedro did...and if pedro didn't get injured at the end of like every season he would probably be putting up numbers like that every season, it would be the norm for him, and i believe the numbers lowe put up this season aren't a fluke, he will be an excellent #2 starter next season

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McNabbShouldDie
09-30-2002, 05:35 PM
Zito all the way. Pedro is a lazy mofo just like the rest of that Red Sox team. It would be a crime if Barry Zito didnt win.

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nellie
10-01-2002, 12:17 PM
Zito all the way. Pedro is a lazy mofo just like the rest of that Red Sox team. It would be a crime if Barry Zito didnt win.


that is increadibly biased. that isn't how these awards should be given. look at the stat and the pitchers overall work during the season. all three seem a bit even. the only reason why i would pick lowe is because it is his first full year as a starter and he did increadible. if there was a yankee that was most deserving i would say so...

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RF Godfather
10-01-2002, 03:21 PM
Zito shoud win but El Duro will get it. That's just the way it is.

Who said it was fair?

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