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UnknownPD
10-03-2002, 06:39 PM
Saw this article on another jock being fired for inappropriate comments. We may not be too far from the make believe ballroom after all.
Is it me or is there a chill in the room.

Clear Channel radio owners force shock jocks to eat their words
Dan Fost, Chronicle Staff Writer
Thursday, October 3, 2002
c2002 San Francisco Chronicle.

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/10/03/BU36345.DTL&type=business


Another shock jock went too far and is no longer on South Bay radio station KSJO-FM, thanks to the dogged efforts of his critics.

The ouster of Mikey Esparza -- who offered, on the air, kidnapping tips and satirical songs glorifying sex with children -- may presage tough times for other shock jocks in the stable of radio giant Clear Channel Communications.

Clear Channel of San Antonio is by far the largest owner of radio stations in the United States, owning more than 10 times as many as its nearest competitor. Because its tentacles reach into other businesses as well, it has drawn criticism from opponents of media concentration.

It also gets dinged for shock jocks like Esparza, although that may change. Even though Esparza gets to keep his show in Dallas, where it's based, and in San Diego, people who keep an eye on Clear Channel think the company may be moving in a more conservative direction.

That's because of a single executive move, announced in July: Randy Michaels, the controversial head of Clear Channel's radio division, stepped down to head a new technology division.

According to Eric Rhoads of Pleasant Hill, publisher of the radio management magazine Radio Ink, the Mays family, which runs Clear Channel -- including founder Lowry Mays and his sons, Mark and Randall Mays -- recognized Michaels' genius for the radio business, even if they did not have the same tastes in programming.

"They're a pretty conservative group of people," Rhoads said. "They were not thrilled with some of the antics that took place. . . . Randy Michaels was all about the craziness and the antics. . . . They tolerated it because he brought them a lot of success."


A HORRIBLE YEAR
But this has been a tough year for any advertising-based company, and Clear Channel is no exception.

In 2001, it lost $1.14 billion on sales of nearly $8 billion, and in the first half of this year, it lost $16.5 billion ($26.32 per diluted share) on sales of $3.9 billion. The loss was largely due to writing down the value of acquired assets. The stock closed Wednesday at $35.95 per share, well below its high of $95.50, reached in January 2000.

The business is showing signs of a rebound. But with Michaels shunted to the side, the outrageous shenanigans of the shock jocks may be toned down.

"You're going to see a whole new Clear Channel," Rhoads said. "It will be more conservative and less tolerant of things that are over the line."


CROSSING THE LINE
The time may be right to tone things down. A pair of New York City shock jocks lost their jobs in August after airing the sound of two people having sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral, drawing national attention.

Todd Clem, known to his listeners as Bubba the Love Sponge, has drawn fines for his broadcasts on a Clear Channel station in Tampa, Fla. (He was acquitted of animal cruelty charges in February after a wild boar was castrated and slaughtered on his show.)

In an interview published in Broadcasting and Cable magazine last month, company President Mark Mays said of Clem, "We have to give him the opportunity to censor himself. I think he's capable of doing that. He's been put on notice.

There have been jocks put off the reservation."

But Mays declined to comment on whether Michaels' new job would mean an overall crackdown on shock jocks.


MEDIA GIANT
Although it may be invisible to many people, Clear Channel touches virtually every American on a daily basis. The company owns 1,225 radio stations and 37 television stations in the United States, and 776,1000 outdoor advertising displays -- billboards,

skurbs
10-03-2002, 08:30 PM
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Knowledged_one
10-04-2002, 04:30 AM
What the hell are you talking about. Actually you arent stating any opinion and obviously dont know your arent supposed to post entire articles

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UnknownPD
10-04-2002, 05:31 AM
No, I do have an opinion and it is shut up unless you have something constructive to say.
The article is one more indication that the adult talk format is in danger. Emboldened by the O&A success you can expect that every asshole in the country will be trying to get shows of this genre off the air. Including R&F.

TheMojoPin
10-04-2002, 05:52 AM
I think people are a little confused. While I think it's too bad that guys like O&A are getting yanked from the air, let's be honest; fucking in churches and doing whole bits about kiddie sex is just plain stupid. I'm not even going to debate if and how they offend people, the shows that these bits are originating from should have known better. Instead you get shows too worried about ratings and out-shticking the other shock jock, and they get sloppy. I have little or no sympathy for the ignorant.

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furie
10-04-2002, 06:20 AM
Isn't Infinity the largest owner of radio stations in the US?

and just post a link to the articles.

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Contra
10-04-2002, 08:22 AM
unknownPD...

you might be right that a lot of people may be trying to bring down the "shock jock" genre. however 1. they've been doing that for years now and 2. ron and fez arent "shock jocks"
do you listen to the show? why are you posting here? you're not telling us anything that we don't already know so i suggest YOU BE CONSTRUCTIVE and come back when you have some new "inside info" for us, ok?

o and yeah you don't want to post whole articles on this board, the mods get a little pissed about that, along with the rest of us.


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UnknownPD
10-04-2002, 09:26 AM
Before I posted the ariticle I checked FAQ's and there was no mention of not posting articles. I am also quite certain that if a "mod" has a problem they can let me know.

Did you even read the article. The guy made a joke about duct tape. Something R&F
have done. This situation relates directly to the pressures being felt by R&F right now.

The problem is not with people that listen to the show, but people who don't.You and I know R&F are not shock jocks, but I doubt the media is capable of making that distinction.

Hell they even refer to mancow as a shock jock and all he is is shockingly boring

Sheeplovr
10-04-2002, 10:40 AM
bla bla bla

wasnt joseph McCarthy the dude who acused people of being communists


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UnknownPD
10-04-2002, 10:47 AM
Joe McCarthy is addition to his communist fantasies had all sorts of, Radio, TV and Film people "Blacklisted" because they didn't agree wtih him.

whale_JUNK
10-04-2002, 10:51 AM
unknownPD you ignorant slut. what will you post next? the day after today is saturday?

BrianTheBailBondsman
10-04-2002, 10:52 AM
Ahhhh FUCK! there goes freedom of speach

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UnknownPD
10-04-2002, 11:56 AM
Whale junk.. thanks for the ignorant slut comment. I was just telling the same thing to your mother last night.
Only she felt she was more prostitute than slut. After all sluts don't charge

whale_JUNK
10-04-2002, 03:27 PM
mom jokes. priceless.

UnknownPD
10-04-2002, 05:41 PM
joke...what joke?

furie
10-06-2002, 06:44 PM
unknownPD you ignorant slut. what will you post next?


Nice!

Whale junk.. thanks for the ignorant slut comment. I was just telling the same thing to your mother last night.
Only she felt she was more prostitute than slut. After all sluts don't charge

UnknownPD, not a fan of the "not ready for primetime players"?

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jamesdiggy
10-06-2002, 06:53 PM
Wait, so Joe McCarthy was an ignorant slut with communist fantasies, a black list, and he didn't charge?

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furie
10-06-2002, 06:57 PM
Joe McCarthy would also get his lunch at a deli downtown run by a samuri...

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jamesdiggy
10-06-2002, 07:03 PM
So Joe McCarthy is really Buck Henry? Does that mean Lorne Michaels is really Roy Cohn?

Abracadabra, Peanut Butter Sandwiches!

UnknownPD
10-07-2002, 08:41 AM
Ahhh twenty five year old Saturday Night Live references
... I was expecting Fabio

TheMojoPin
10-07-2002, 12:21 PM
Did Bill Crystal get bumped from the first hearings?

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