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Drudge Jr.
10-07-2002, 05:05 PM
Why Iraq? Why now?

What's going on? Why is it that when there is no evidence suggesting Iraq has ties to 9/11, never attacked the United States, and hasn't done a thing to warrant an attack in the past 10 years, are we planning the invade? There seems to be only a few hazy answers to this question, and as the Bush administration bangs the drums of war with thousands of apathetic Americans supporting every one of his moves, it seems like peace drifts farther and farther from our shores. But still, wouldn't it be nice to know why?
Our president assures us that there is no greater threat to the security of this nation and others than Saddam Hussein. Bush tells us daily Hussein's trying to get weapons of mass destruction, and he tells us his army is capable of causing mass havoc in the region. However, much of this contradicts what we have learned since the Gulf War. Many of our top generals claim Saddam's army is disloyal. Former weapons inspector John Ritter claims the last time we attacked Iraq in 1998, 90-95% of Saddam's weapons were destroyed. Reports that Saddam Hussein acquired the parts for a nuclear bomb in the 90's was false, now there is no evidence Saddam has nukes or a nuke. We do know however Hussein has the capability to fire Scud missiles at Israel, but when's a better time to use his scud missiles then when he backed into a corner (a position he will be in if the US attacks) and his regime is on the verge of collapse? Calling Saddam a threat now is very precarious, and probably shows there are other motives in a plan to invade Iraq.
Maybe it's not surprising, but Bush isn't really getting the support he expected either. When he announced his intentions, expecting a Gulf-War style coalition, initially only one European nation, Liechtenstein signed on (now France and Russia have shifted). Not exactly what you'd call universal support, but still Bush pressed on, even with all but one European nation dissenting a war. He effectively utilized the UN as a tool to increase support for war by demanding a resolution supporting an attack on Iraq if inspectors would not be allowed in to search for weapons, which the UN is still very reluctant to do. And even with any future support of Europe and the UN, the movement of war resistance, which we all thought was extinct just a year ago, is back, even if with less rights thanks to John Ashcroft. Protests are collecting in almost every major city across the country, all with the message that an attack on Iraq would be both unwise and unpopular.
So we've got most of Europe, the UN, and a rapidly growing number of Americans dying to contradict the previously infallible Bush administration, but at least toppling Saddam is good if successful anyway, right? Well, I was quick to think that too, but it may not be that obvious. Sure, in the process of whatever scheme the Bush administration has here we might liberate Iraq, but won't we really be occupying it as well? We certainly won't make it a democracy, with a vast majority of citizens against the United States (perhaps because the US and Britain has been bombing them for over a decade). A shadow US government will never be welcome in Baghdad, and this sort of political imposition will most likely lead to further fanaticism in the region, certainly not a good idea. Furthermore, the mass invasion Bush has dreamed of would further riddle an already quickly sinking global economy.
Ok, I agree that toppling Saddam isn't 100% bad news, Saddam is an oppressive Machiavellian despot who is destroying his country, but if Bush wanted to take out every evil dictator in the world, we might be at war for far longer than the month planned for Iraq. Not to mention (well, I guess I am now), that a lot of the poverty in Iraq is directly do to US sanctions, which generally hurt Iraqi citizens as opposed to Saddam's regime. Clearly, the ends do not justify the means in this case.
There's a clich‚ that's beginning to hit certain war resisting circles, and that is "Truth is the first casualty of war." We are being told things that

Zipgun
10-07-2002, 06:09 PM
i wrote it today before the speach, tell me what you think


I think you should use spell check.

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TheMojoPin
10-07-2002, 06:12 PM
I think this was just a sneaky way to post a full article. But it sounded alright, but it was trying to say a lot without any evidence or sources.

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Yerdaddy
10-07-2002, 10:04 PM
I haven't got alot of time to go over every point in here. I agree with your general points, but There's a couple minor things that should be changed, and I have some suggested sources at the bottom.
Former weapons inspector John Ritter claims the last time we attacked Iraq in 1998, 90-95% of Saddam's weapons were destroyed.
John Ritter made the claim that he was gay and that he was not banging Chrissy and Janet, in order to keep Mr. Roper from kicking him out of the apartment. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,805841,00.html">Scott Ritter</a> was the former chief weapons inspector for UNSCOM that made the disarmament claim in this June 2000 article published in Arms Control Today<a href="http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2000_06/iraqjun.asp">The Case for Iraq's Qualitative Disarmament</a>.

Reports that Saddam Hussein acquired the parts for a nuclear bomb in the 90's was false, now there is no evidence Saddam has nukes or a nuke.
While it is true that Saddam doesn't have a nuclear weapon, he does have a nuclear progam. The administration claims that he is close to completing a nuclear weapon, the reports the adminstration don't justify that claim. The text of the British dosier can be found here: <a href="http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page6117.asp">Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction - The assessment of the British Government</a>. For a summary the reports vs. the claims made about them see: <a href="http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002_10/iraqspecialoct02.asp">>Iraq: A Chronology of UN Inspections And an Assessment of Their Accomplishments</a>

Machiavellian
"Machiavellian" generally describes an amoral rather than immoral leader. Saddam is clearly immoral and so I'd say "Machiavellian" isn't nearly a strong enough term for him. Can you use the term "cocksucker"? "Megalomaniacal" might work. Or "repressive dictator" works fine.

SOURCES:
In an op/ed in the Wall Street Journal ( <a href="http://cryptome.org/dont-doit.htm">Don't Attack Saddam - It would undermine our antiterror efforts.</a>)on August 15, Brent Scowcroft, President Ford and Bush Sr.'s National Security Advisor, made a strong case against invading Iraq.

Retired U.S. Army general and commander of NATO Wesley Clark said in an OP/ED piece, (as well as in testimony before the Senate Armed Forces Committee), that "Unilateral U.S. action today would disrupt the war against al-Qaeda, supercharge anti-American sentiment in the Middle East and Europe, undercut international cooperation and shake up moderate Arab governments."<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2002-09-09-oplede_x.htm"> Before Iraq: Strengthen allies, weaken al-Qaeda</a>


I'd be able to give you some more sources if I were at home but these are strong in my opinion.

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This message was edited by Yerdaddy on 10-8-02 @ 2:07 AM

furie
10-08-2002, 05:35 AM
What's going on?


not a good way to start an article.

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TheMojoPin
10-08-2002, 06:35 AM
not a good way to start an article.

Maybe he's Marvin Gaye and now he's making it sexy...

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Drudge Jr.
10-08-2002, 11:29 AM
as a matter of fact i am marvin gaye.

thanks yerdaddy, i have made the corrections

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AndyKoom
10-08-2002, 11:30 PM
Jeez, with all the anti-war against Iraq rhetoric, you'd fit right in at Columbia. You're still in high school right Drudge JR?

monkey gram. haha ok.