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TheMojoPin
10-17-2002, 06:28 PM
[quote]1) Don't misspell any words in your band's name. Many bands opt to switch the letter 'I' for the letter 'y'. This is cool if you're into everyone with 1/8 to 1/6 a brain assuming that you are a crappy jock/rap/metal band. For instance, Limp Bizkit, Puddle of Mudd, and Korn are all these type of bands. Are any of them good? Check and mate.

2) Avoid using food products in your band's name. Chances are you'll misspell it anyways. Also, chances are you'll pick some crappy food over a tasty one.

3) Don't wear your band's own shirts. No exceptions or excuses accepted. Don't think the "but I'm on tour and we haven't been able to wash our clothes, it's the only thing clean I had to wear" story is gonna fly. wear the dirty shirt, you're a rocker my friend.

4) Don't play reggae unless you are in Bad Brains.

5) Cowboy hats are for cowboys only. That is why they are called cowboy hats. You aren't Madonna nor are you trend setting. And unless your main transportation is a horse just don't wear a cowboy hat, or you're a total poser cowboy.

6) This one here is a no brainer and it's mainly, but not solely, directed towards the ska bands. DO NOT insert the name of your genre, or something related to your genre into your band's name. You don't see any good bands attempt this. (except Metallica, but they have songs about satan so it's cool) The best solution to this problem is to not start a ska band in the first place, cos not only are ska bands just itching to break this rule and prove their dorkdom, but nobody's scoring gash with a ska band anyway.

7) Avoid using the words theory, project, or plan in the title of your band name.

8) Don't play funk. Don't even joke about playing funk.

9) Mc Hammer pants aren't cool anymore, don't wear them. Yeah, Fred, we're talking to you.

10) Visors on band members (or anyone for that matter) earn yourself a bitch slap. If you have your visor sideways, upside down, or both your penalty increases to additional groin area pummeling.

11) For shows, props are generally a bad idea. They usually stimulate the audience's what-the-hell sensors. If you do decide to use one, make sure it's small and you don't spend most of your time playing with it. Unless of course you are the Beastie Boys, it's 1986, you're opening for Madonna, and you have a giant two story penis on stage.

12) If your band has a cozy fan base of say, five, skip out on the huge rock star banner. It is key to grasp the idea that people don't operate on the if-they-have-a-banner-they-have-to-be-good mentality.

13) Never ever have all members wear the same shirt. This is a ridiculous concept and should not be explained.

14) If you're playing your hometown, don't say, "What's up (town)". This phrase is reserved for the out of town and/or touring bands. You might make them mad by stealing their pep speech.

15) If you're playing outside of your hometown, don't say, "What's up (town)". This phrase screams shoot me in the face.

16) Preaching is for church, shut up and rock.

17) Cordless guitars are only ok if your first name is Eddie, your last name is Van Halen, and you kick ass at playing a guitar with a power drill. If this is not the case, don't venture there.

18) Playing your guitar up by your neck makes you look like a geek. Period. If you need an example, take a cue from a few of the greats. look at Slash's guitar height, or maybe take a peek at where Duff let the bass rest, or possibly look at just how low Krist Noviselic rode his rock axe.

19) If you play bass make sure you have only 4 strings. If you play guitar make sure you only have 6 or less. If you play drums know that if your set looks like something Tommy Lee would play while hanging upside down, you are a jackass. You don't need 12 cymbals fruitcake.

20) Gold hardware and/or wood stained anything is a no-no. Ditto for neon anything.

21) White cordless mics were used by Vanilla Ice, don't travel the same road.

22) Unless you are an immortal rock god, spitting or throwing water into the crowd instantaneously eli

fluffernutter
10-17-2002, 07:06 PM
Again a great read and very true but I disagree with a couple of things.

I like the beards if the beards are scraggily and on guys in bands who are still underground :)

And only from the punk bands who never ever take themselves seriously (i.e. NOFX, Vandals, Guttermouth) ar enew wave tunes and or pop tunes ok. At least that is one in my book. And the day any of those bands takes themselves seriously it will be a sad day.

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10-17-2002, 07:34 PM
the best music related post ever you rock <P>
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TheMojoPin
10-17-2002, 07:45 PM
I like the beards if the beards are scraggily and on guys in bands who are still underground

Good point. I love Apples In Stereo, Eels, The Soundtrack of Our Lives and Grandaddy, and they're all chockfull of beards. Done and done.

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Crippler
10-17-2002, 07:46 PM
I think you might have put my every rock frustration into words...you are truly the man!

(Where's philby to remind us all that Eddie Van Halen is overrated?)


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fluffernutter
10-17-2002, 08:25 PM
...and most of the bands out of Gainesville, FL.

Shaving Is For Sissies!

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angrymissy
10-18-2002, 04:46 AM
Playing your guitar up by your neck makes you look like a geek. Period

so VERY VERY true

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Knowledged_one
10-18-2002, 04:51 AM
Sublime played Reggae i dont think they sucked. Pretty much the rest is hard and true, but also forgot the crushing pills to melt in your hair/soaking bandannas in LSD/ or shooting heroin may also not be advised

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Michael Fury
10-18-2002, 05:21 AM
Good call on the Bad Brains rock/reggae. The only exception I can think of is The Clash. They could pull it off.




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A.J.
10-18-2002, 05:28 AM
Unless of course you are the Beastie Boys, it's 1986, you're opening for Madonna, and you have a giant two story penis on stage.


The Stones did that on their 1975 tour.

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Mr Self Destruct
10-18-2002, 05:53 AM
I disagree with everything you said there Mojo. I don't have time to dissect each one of those rules right now. If this thread isn't forgotten about in the next few days i'll do just that.

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LatterYearsJimMorrison
10-18-2002, 06:14 AM
To Mojo,
Clap, Clap Clap. I applaud you. Thats all i have to say

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JerryTaker
10-18-2002, 08:09 AM
Hmmm....

Limp Bizkit, Strait Up, and Korn

Strait Up, as far as I know, is a tribute to Lynn Strait of Snot. It's not some "Kewl" spelling of "Straight," If that is the name of a band, that isn't comprised of the surviving band members, it's in really poor taste and they should be shot immediately...

I totally agree with Korn, Bizkxyzt, Link&8s* P@r%, or however they spell it...

...does Def Leppard count?

except Metallica, but they have songs about satan so it's cool

I used to be a big Metallica fan, I don't remember songs about Satan, they did sing about Cthulu, Jesus, and god's Angel of Death, but not Satan, I don't think...

Playing your guitar up by your neck makes you look like a geek.

Yes, Playing your guitar verticaly is stupid, but letting out the strap so it hangs at your knees is ridiculous, too... In your examples, Slash used to bend over his gutiar, and lifted the neck for accuracy, if you play at your knees, you're playing 2 power chords, or you're a bassist...

If you play guitar make sure you only have 6 or less.

"The Mission" By Queensryche (see my sig) is an amazing song that uses a 12-string, and a few of the heavier bands have been using 7 strings to get the extra low D string as well as the E so they don't have to keep switching guitars...

Covering new wave songs, oldies, or current Top 40 songs means your band sucks mad horse dong.

Do 80's songs count? If you say no, I direct you to Life of Agony's "Don't you (Forget About Me)"

Kick out the fat guy, he's the reason you are never gonna be big.

Dino was awesome, everyone loved Dino...

ask yourself if you think Rob Halford would be into your band

Being big in the gay community helps, I guess...

Otherwise, I completely agree with you... :-)

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GodsFavoriteMan
10-18-2002, 08:14 AM
What about the Beatles? They misspelled Beetles. But then again they did it for a reason.

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TheMojoPin
10-18-2002, 08:41 AM
Alright, I concede fully on "Strait Up", I totally blanked on what that was, so I've changed it to Puddle of Mudd. But then again "Strait Up" involved Slipknot, Sevendust and Kittie, so I still loathe it pretty damn hard.

And Sublime and The Clash adapted reggae into their styles (As have No Doubt and 311), but didn't play flat-out, hardcore reggae like Bad Brains would do between the speed punk and hardcore.

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TheMojoPin
10-18-2002, 08:45 AM
Do 80's songs count? If you say no, I direct you to Life of Agony's "Don't you (Forget About Me)"

ALL covers are the refuge of the damned. If you don't have enough faith in your own material, or even have enough material period, stay off the goddamn stage, and don't put out a goddamn record. Cover songs are the AIDS of music.

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TheMojoPin
10-18-2002, 08:47 AM
Yes, Playing your guitar verticaly is stupid, but letting out the strap so it hangs at your knees is ridiculous, too... In your examples, Slash used to bend over his gutiar, and lifted the neck for accuracy, if you play at your knees, you're playing 2 power chords, or you're a bassist...

Your point? Slash looked badass and mysterious. Only bass players should have their axe slung by their knees, at any and all times. A guitarist should have his electric tool rubbing against his fleshy tool like the two are one. Use that as a guideline.

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JerryTaker
10-18-2002, 08:52 AM
Your point? Slash looked badass and mysterious.

sorry, that sentence fell off a cliff; I agree with you, my point was Slash played low to match his guitar, because he wanted accuracy, unlike the punk bands at the knees, it was a compliment, but I'm bad at those...

...and what's wrong with Sevendust?

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A.J.
10-18-2002, 08:53 AM
ALL covers are the refuge of the damned. If you don't have enough faith in your own material, or even have enough material period, stay off the goddamn stage, and don't put out a goddamn record.

Nearly every group has done cover songs. The Beatles, The Stones, Zeppelin, The Who -- they all did covers when they started out. To me, covers are a way of paying tribute to your musical influences.

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JerryTaker
10-18-2002, 09:07 AM
Funny, I was never a fan of the Beatles, but I've liked just about every cover of thier songs...
Type-O, Aerosmith, Spineshank and Soundgarden all had some good Beatles covers...

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TheMojoPin
10-18-2002, 09:08 AM
Nearly every group has done cover songs. The Beatles, The Stones, Zeppelin, The Who -- they all did covers when they started out. To me, covers are a way of paying tribute to your musical influences.

The Beatles, The Stones and The Who all started when rock was still young, wild & wooly, and still getting to its feet. Bands were still unsure as to where this new genre was to go, and I see these bands covering their contempories as a way of refining a fledgling style of music into the beautiful bastard it is today.

That said, there is, yet again and over SO many issues, no excuse for Led Zeppelin.

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TheMojoPin
10-18-2002, 09:11 AM
sorry, that sentence fell off a cliff: I agree with you, my point was Slash played low to match his guitar, because he wanted accuracy, unlike the punk bands at the knees, it was a compliment, but I'm bad at those...

Oh well, looks like I was blind, confused or stupid. In that case, I agree with you fully.

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JustJon
10-18-2002, 09:39 AM
Quote:
If you play guitar make sure you only have 6 or less.



"The Mission" By Queensryche (see my sig) is an amazing song that uses a 12-string, and a few of the heavier bands have been using 7 strings to get the extra low D string as well as the E so they don't have to keep switching guitars...
Steve Vai was badass with that double necked heart shaped guitar that he used on David Lee Roth's Yankee Rose

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Servo
10-18-2002, 12:38 PM
I think I fucked up the thread... I'll get back to it.


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TheMojoPin
10-18-2002, 09:20 PM
LIVE, dammit.

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Serial
10-19-2002, 01:05 AM
Mojo, you seem to dislike every type of music...what is it that you're into? You sound exactly like someone who's in an original band, determined to do nothing but originals. If that's the case, good luck but, depending on the area, that's not where the money is. Overall a decent list though and, I liked the Fugazi reference. Nearly every group has done cover songs. The Beatles, The Stones, Zeppelin, The Who -- they all did covers when they started out. To me, covers are a way of paying tribute to your musical influences. I say that all the time - nobody seems to believe it though. Don't forget about Jimi Hendrix. He did covers of songs before the originals got to be heard. ??? You know what I mean...the Beatles stuff. <P>

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TheMojoPin
10-19-2002, 08:48 AM
Mojo, you seem to dislike every type of music...what is it that you're into?

Where did you get that from? I love practically every form of music, and my CD collection is just a hair shy of 2,000...these rules came from the fact that I love music, especially "rock", SO much that I'm tired of seeing the wrong people muck it up.

And I already addressed the cover song issue. The bands in the 60's were trying to get a fledgling genre off the ground, and helped it do so by paying tribute to artists that might have been glanced over the first time around, or they felt didn't get the attention they deserved. This is perfectly acceptable even today. If you hear a song that it's likely only three other people heard, but it blows your mind, play it at your next show and give the artists their well-deserved props. The covers I hate are cutesy, "punked" or "rocked-up" versions of BAD songs, bubblgum pop songs, hair metal songs, hip-hop, whatever. It's pathetic, not cute, and makes you look like an uncreative douche.

And now that you mention them, Fugazi is all. Thank you.

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Serial
10-20-2002, 01:31 AM
Eh...maybe I just read too much into your original post.
The covers I hate are cutesy, "punked" or "rocked-up" versions of BAD songs, bubblgum pop songs, hair metal songs, hip-hop, whatever. Although I like some of those songs, I know what you mean, and agree. I hear them every week and, sick thing is, the 80's crap works 90% of the time. I try to get different stuff into the set list but, I can only do so much without crossing the perverbial line.

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Death Metal Moe
10-20-2002, 10:40 AM
Wow, that's a lot to read.

Anyway, most of these are good ideas. Unhallowed uses 7 stringed guitars and a 5 stringed bass because we downtune. And I'm the fat guy in the band. Other than that, I think we're pretty clean by Mojo's standards. Oh, and sometimes we wear our own shirts to try to spark interest in merchandise sales after a gig. So fucking shoot me.

I'm gonna start calling you the The Mojo oPINion.

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TheMojoPin
10-20-2002, 11:52 AM
And I'm the fat guy in the band.

I haven't figured out whether an ALL-FAT band would flame out in miserable failure or be the most spectacular band in the history of music. Let's go ask Tad.

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Bob Impact
10-21-2002, 05:41 AM
Don't play reggae unless you are in Bad Brains

What about Rancid, they did some fantastic punk-reggae songs. Listen to Life Won't Wait.

Can we add that dying your hair, wearing quasi-punk clothes and emulating Green Day makes you awful by definition?

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TheMojoPin
10-21-2002, 01:45 PM
Don't play REGGAE. Not reggae "blends" like Rancid, The Clash, Sublime, et al do. That's fine. Sometimes.

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