View Full Version : How far can you go outside of a relationship before you consider it cheating?
Earth2RON
11-14-2002, 09:04 PM
I say touching someone in a sexually way knowing that you are in a relationship would be considered cheating in my eyes.
I look at it this way in order for you to get close to someone, you have to first be physical attraction to them which would mean you would touch them before you do anything else....I hope that made some kind of sense!
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Patches
11-15-2002, 11:06 AM
I dunno. I guess flirting alot is ok, maybe if you kissed and felt reeeeeeally bad about it and thats all you did, and you don't make a habit out of it that MIGHT be ok, but anything more I think is cheating.
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HordeKing1
11-15-2002, 12:17 PM
At its most basic - cheating occurs in situations where you wouldn't want your partner to do whatever you're doing with someone else.
There are multifaceted aspects to cheating. The betrayal could be physcial, emotional or intellectual.
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dassal3399
11-15-2002, 12:23 PM
i would have to say the first passoniate kiss
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Patches
11-15-2002, 12:35 PM
At its most basic - cheating occurs in situations where you wouldn't want your partner to do whatever you're doing with someone else.
Yes and no. I wouldn't want to have my girlfriend fool around with another guy, but I would also probably get jealous if she just made a guy friend that I don't know. And that's not cheating, but I think I would be justified (but ultimately wrong, if all they are is friends) in being jealous.
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I would love it if my girl friend got a guy friend. He could take her to chick flicks and then go shopping afterwards. They could spend the whole day talking about their "feelings."
It would take a lot for me to get jealous because I trust her. Most women have been getting hit on since they were teenagers so it's not like they don't know how to say no.
If only I could make her understand that it's really hard for a guy to turn a girl down because it just doesn't happen as much. I'd be thinking (Chris Rock) This must be my lucky day! (/Chris Rock).
But then ya got to realize that if ya get caught doing just about anything there's gonna be a lot of "talking about the relationship" and no new woman is worth that hassle.
Contra
11-15-2002, 02:29 PM
different area codes don't count right?
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GodsFavoriteMan
11-15-2002, 02:38 PM
How can you go so far as kissing without going any further?
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Cybersoldier
11-15-2002, 06:57 PM
I think it acutally physical contact by that sex
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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
11-15-2002, 07:01 PM
Flirting is a grey area. Once it becomes "too friendly," then it's cheating.
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NewYorkDragons80
11-18-2002, 10:24 AM
Once you kiss someone else, that's it.
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TooCute
11-18-2002, 10:26 AM
If you're trying to figure out
what is 'cheating' and what
isn't, well you're probably
not in a committed
relationship so who cares?
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Earth2RON
11-18-2002, 10:40 AM
If you're trying to figure out
what is 'cheating' and what
isn't, well you're probably
not in a committed
relationship so who cares?
A)I'm in a committed relationship just to let you know.
B)I aint the one so check ya shyt at the door before you come at me.
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This message was edited by Earth2RON on 11-18-02 @ 2:44 PM
Jennitalia
11-18-2002, 11:05 AM
A)I'm in a committed relationship just to let you know.
that's not what you said to me last night as i was teabagging you
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Earth2RON
11-18-2002, 11:48 AM
that's not what you said to me last night as i was teabagging you
That was suppose to be between me and you....next time around im gonna have to gag ya mouth.
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Patches
11-18-2002, 12:38 PM
I aint the one so check ya shyt at the door before you come at me.
Word.
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JerseyRich
11-18-2002, 01:53 PM
TooCute forgot the "Check Yo Self, Before you Wreck Yo Self" rule we have here on RF.net...
I have no clue what I am talking about.
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TooCute
11-18-2002, 05:50 PM
Uh I was serious. If you,
and that is a hypothetical
you, are trying to figure out
"can I do this? is it
cheating?" then you're not
committed to the person
you are contemplating
cheating on. You CANT be
in a committed relationship
and still be trying to figure
out whether it's 'ok' to do
this or that with someone. I
am suggesting that the
mere fact that you are
seriously contemplating it is
bad enough.
If you're in a committed
relationship, do you want
your significant other to say
to you, for example, "I
kissed that person but there
was no tongue and it didn't
last long and I pulled
away"? of course not. you
would HOPE that if they
were actually committed to
you they wouldn't be in a
situation where that would
happen in the first place.
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Patches
11-18-2002, 08:53 PM
TooCute: Yeah, of course that would all be true. In a perfect world. But it's not. People have desires, instincts, etc. You never know how you will react in a situation until you are put in it. People are not perfect, they will not always do the right thing.
Example: There was a girl (she ended up being capn of the volleyball team, so you can believe me when I say she had a great body) who I was infatuated with in my freshman year of college, but she had a boyfriend. Fast forward to senior year. I now have a gf of 2 years (about 150 miles away) and she is single. I see her in a bar for the first time since freshman year. We flirt a bit, and she convinces me to go back to her place. I go. As much as I am tempted, nothing ever happens. Of course I feel guilty about it getting that far, but at the same time, a little proud of myself for resisting. So, yeah, I was wrong; I should never have flirted and went back to her place. But a little slack is in order. I am only a man, with carnal instincts and desires but I did not let them overcome me. And no, I do not feel like I cheated.
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Earth2RON
11-18-2002, 09:08 PM
My sweet Toocute i was just trying to make convo with the board.The topic came up cuz me and my girlfriend had a convo about what is considered cheating.
I stated in my first post that touching in a sexually manner is cheating in my eyes.Thank for being caring though and wanting to watch my back for me:)
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This message was edited by Earth2RON on 11-19-02 @ 1:12 AM
TooCute
11-19-2002, 05:18 AM
If I was your girlfriend, and I
knew that you had gone
home with some other
chick after flirting with her all
night, even if NOTHING had
happened, that would be
the end of the relationship.
Maybe not immediately,
because no, I don't have
balls that big, but I would
not trust you any more, and
eventually the relationship
would self destruct.
Do you tell your girlfriend
that you go home with the
volleyball chick? If you don't,
why? Because it is
something you feel guilty
about. and if you are feeling
guilty about it, then it means
that somehow you feel that
you have strayed outside of
'acceptable' behavior in your
relationship, and do not
want your girlfriend to find
out.
In my mind, in a truly
committed relationship -
and forgive me, but I think
that truly committed
relationships are
extraordinarily rare in
college age people; this is
not a reflection on you and I
am not trying to say that you
are a horrible cheater or
anything by any means -
you don't feel the need to
make sure other people
want you by doing things
that you dont want your
significant other to find out
about.
Everyone has a need on
some level to feel attractive
to the general populace
rather than only their
significant; I can hardly sit
here and say that I don't -
sometimes I feel like I just
need to have some uniased
eyes on me LOL. But rather
than go out to a bar and flirt
with other guys, I like to go
toe red rocks, with my
boyfriend, and dance on the
bar. I'm not saying that the
fundamental actions are in
any absolute sense better
or worse, but in my mind,
I'm not HIDING anything.
Like I said before: if you are
wondering whether or not
what you did/are
doing/about to do is
'cheating' or not, it proably
is, in the sense that in the
end it is going to have the
same, negative effect on
your relationship.
TooCute: Yeah, of
course that would all be
true. In a perfect world. But
it's not. People have
desires, instincts, etc. You
never know how you will
react in a situation until you
are put in it. People are not
perfect, they will not always
do the right thing.
Example: There was a girl
(she ended up being capn
of the volleyball team, so
you can believe me when I
say she had a great body)
who I was infatuated with in
my freshman year of
college, but she had a
boyfriend. Fast forward to
senior year. I now have a gf
of 2 years (about 150 miles
away) and she is single. I
see her in a bar for the first
time since freshman year.
We flirt a bit, and she
convinces me to go back to
her place. I go. As much as
I am tempted, nothing ever
happens. Of course I feel
guilty about it getting that
far, but at the same time, a
little proud of myself for
resisting. So, yeah, I was
wrong: I should never have
flirted and went back to her
place. But a little slack is in
order. I am only a man, with
carnal instincts and desires
but I did not let them
overcome me. And no, I do
not feel like I
cheated
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Patches
11-19-2002, 09:17 AM
That all makes sense Toocute, believe me I actually agree with you. But if you truly did nothing with someone else, but you feel guilty anyway, why tell them? To make yourself feel better, and them feel like shit? Guilt is a burden one must bear sometimes.
On a side note: I am alot different of a person now than I was back then. Lots of things have happened to me in the past year or so, which is really a whole new thread in itself :-) . Believe me, I agree with your points more than you know.
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erole
11-19-2002, 11:04 AM
You CANT be
in a committed relationship
and still be trying to figure
out whether it's 'ok' to do
this or that with someone.
I disagree with this in part.
If you are talking about actively
flurting and getting as close as you
can without cheating, then I fully
agree. But otherwise, I think
whenever you are apart from the one
you love, you should always keep
yourself in check. I believe you
should always see if you are giving
out the wrong impression or see if
you are in a situation where - you
didn't mean to be in, but you are.
It's a matter of making sure you are
staying
away from situations that can brood
mistrust rather than just making
sure you are not cheating. It's like
what someone told me once...
"It's not how close you can get,
it's how far you can stay away."
And to stay away, you must be aware
of where you are and what you are
doing - which includes, putting
yourself in check, which means -
trying to figure out whether it's 'ok' to do this or that with someone.
Do you tell your girlfriend
that you go home with the
volleyball chick? If you don't,
why? Because it is
something you feel guilty
about.
This I fully agree with. Simply
knowing, "Man, I can never tell this
to her/him." should tell you everything
you need to know.
Guilt is a burden one must bear sometimes.
But it doesn't have to be a burden
if you are being honest. There
was a woman once who literally
grabbed me, took my hand and put it
on her breast, and kissed me. I
pulled away as soon as she did it.
I mean, totally out of nowhere.
This girl was just a friend. She was
going through a hard time with her
FIANCE. Which tells you even more how
out of nowhere this was. The problem,
other than the fact she had a fiance?
I had a girlfriend at the time.
I wigged out. I never did one damn
thing to elict that type of behavior
from her. I had no right to feel guilty.
But I kind of did, because I knew that
if this happened to my girlfriend,
I would want to know. So I told her,
the same day. She was cool with it,
because she knew she could trust me,
and knew that I told her everything
about everything. Now, I didn't
even do anything wrong, if there is
any guilt out there, you should let
it out before it either consumes
you, or comes back to haunt you.
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11-19-2002, 11:22 AM
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Earth2RON
11-19-2002, 05:05 PM
If I was your girlfriend, and I
knew that you had gone
home with some other
chick after flirting with her all
night, even if NOTHING had
happened, that would be
the end of the relationship.
Unless she was a friend that my girl knew about she wouldnt step foot in my house.
Do you tell your girlfriend
that you go home with the
volleyball chick?
My girl gets mad at the thought of me hanging out with females from the message board, but i still tell her if i do hang out with any of you guys.
I
am not trying to say that you
are a horrible cheater or
anything by any means
I have never nor will i ever cheat cuz thats just not in me to do such a harsh thing to someone that i love.I've only been in two relationships in my 23 years on this earth.My first girl cheated on me but thats when i was like 17 so i didnt give a damn.
Like I said before: if you are
wondering whether or not
what you did/are
doing/about to do is
'cheating' or not, it proably
is, in the sense that in the
end it is going to have the
same, negative effect on
your relationship
I'm not thinking of cheating and im not cheating on my girlfriend it was just a topic that me and her had a convo about.
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TooCute
11-19-2002, 10:03 PM
Gah! How many more times
to I have to say that 'you' is
not YOU, but a hypothetical
person (in this case male,
though it could be female
just as easily) for whom I
am using the word 'you' for
ease of expression????
I give up.
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Earth2RON
11-19-2002, 10:23 PM
I give up
Awwwww dont give up Toocute i was enjoying myself:)
I know you wasnt talking to be directly i just wanted to continue going back and forth with ya.
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TooCute
11-20-2002, 05:51 AM
I would have no problem
going back and forth if you
were actually reading the
points I was making but
arguing for the sake of
arguing is pretty stupid.
I said what I wnted to say,
and I stick by it.
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Earth2RON
11-20-2002, 11:08 PM
I said what I wnted to say,
and I stick by it
Being a woman of ya word is diff a good quality to have:)
SuperDave
11-22-2002, 10:11 PM
my rule of thumb is if you don't want your boy/girlfriend to find out about it... you're cheating.
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PrisonSex
11-22-2002, 10:39 PM
I agree totaly, if you don't want to talk about it its probably cheating. I read that in Men's health and they never lie. If you give another girl a cleaveland steamer...prolly cheating.
LilLibra
11-23-2002, 09:12 AM
That's difficult because any kind of sexual attention, flirting included, would make my eyes bleed. Innocent flirting is "okay"- and I use that term loosely. I'm a little possessive so, so much as another woman kissing my boyfriend would make me see red. Of course, that would be their blood splattered everywhere lol. Whoops!
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blade
11-23-2002, 09:28 AM
Any physical contact.From kissing on up is cheating.
LatinSpiceXoX
11-23-2002, 11:46 AM
I think it's definitely borderline cheating after the fourth visit to motel 6.
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11-24-2002, 04:54 AM
my rule of thumb is if you don't want your boy/girlfriend to find out about it... you're cheating. <P>
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