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Michael Fury
11-18-2002, 04:56 AM
Records show JFK took codeine, Demerol, methadone, Ritalin, Stelazine, meprobamate, Librium, barbiturates, thyroid hormone, gamma globulin, procaine injections, antispasmodics, hydrocortisone, testosterone, and salt tablets.
But he could ride Marilyn Monroe til the cows came home.
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NewYorkDragons80
11-18-2002, 08:07 AM
Maybe the anti-depressants were what drove him to cheat. And do you think it's possible that the disorders were the reason for the painting with him on his face down?
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Jennitalia
11-18-2002, 08:12 AM
Maybe the anti-depressants were what drove him to cheat
somehow, i doubt that
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DarkHippie
11-18-2002, 08:20 AM
anti-depressants usually kill the sex drive. Most of those are pain killers and drugs to help his back (the antispasmodics and hydrocortisone). as for the Thyroid and Testosterone, Synthroid is a very common drug (i don't know if it was around back then) but he must of been shooting himself with testosterone (hemmingway did the same. these days we have a gel called Androgel for Hypogonadism)
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NewYorkDragons80
11-18-2002, 08:37 AM
In that case I'm a dick
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Jennitalia
11-18-2002, 08:39 AM
In that case I'm a dick
admitting it is the first step ;)
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The Chairman
11-18-2002, 08:46 AM
Records show JFK took codeine, Demerol, methadone, Ritalin, Stelazine, meprobamate, Librium, barbiturates, thyroid hormone, gamma globulin, procaine injections, antispasmodics, hydrocortisone, testosterone, and salt tablets. <P>
But he could ride Marilyn Monroe til the cows came home. <P>
My favorite from the AP/NY Times article was
My favorite from the AP/NY Times article was "By the time of the missile crisis, Kennedy was taking antispasmodics to control colitis; antibiotics for a urinary tract infection; and increased amounts of hydrocortisone and testosterone, along with salt tablets, to control his adrenal insufficiency and boost his energy." and "The records show that Kennedy had "a tremendous proclivity for infections," Dr. Kelman said, contradicting Dr. Travell's assertion in 1960 that Kennedy had "a better than average resistance to infection" and "astounding vitality."
Ummm...
Aside from the sedatives, hypnotics, neuroleptics, stimulants and painkillers, etc, etc....perhaps the most telling is the antibiotics. Is it just me or don't you think his infections were most likely of the drip dick kind and not strep throat kind?
I'm sure 30 years from now, it will be revealed that Bill Clinton was taking Sweet Secret http://www.sweetsecret.com...
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TheMojoPin
11-18-2002, 09:05 AM
Most of Kennedy's medical problems stemmed from the highly risky operations he went through to help correct his constantly failing back. With the type of work going on, spinal cord and nervous system damage was highly likely, and it's a miracle he even survived. They guy spent most of his adult life with crippling back pain, even after the surgeries...
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DarkHippie
11-18-2002, 09:12 AM
I'm sure 30 years from now, it will be revealed that Bill Clinton was taking Sweet Secret
does it make you taste like a crisp, hard, apple?
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The Chairman
11-18-2002, 09:27 AM
does it make you taste like a crisp, hard, apple? <P>
I'm told mine is more like kiwi, but if it had to be an apple, Granny Smith would be it. <P>
But my real secret is eating about 5-10 of the white candy sticks that come with Fun Dip (don't eat the powder - throw that stuff out!) about 1 hour before the money shot... <P>
Interesting, and ironic, that Kennedy might have survived the assasination had he not been wearing a specially designed corset for his back:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/GoodMorningAmerica/GMA021118JFK_medical_problems.html
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Yerdaddy
11-18-2002, 11:29 AM
anti-depressants usually kill the sex drive.
Not mine. It was like a second puberty. I went to the zoo once and the monkeys told me I should give my junk a rest.
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BrianTheBailBondsman
11-18-2002, 02:22 PM
then "a freind or ours" put him out of his misery
"Getting my 15 minutes of fame a few seconds at a time"
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HordeKing1
11-18-2002, 02:37 PM
It's more accurate to say that anti-depressants have some affect on the libido of most people.
Most people experience diminished sexual impulses. Many experience delayed orgasmic responses. Some (not many) have increased sex drive. When that happens though, it may be signaling a manic episode.
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Drudge Jr.
11-18-2002, 03:36 PM
if only they made some sort of anti-bullet pill. damn!
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The Chairman
11-18-2002, 04:09 PM
It's more accurate to say that anti-depressants have some affect on the libido of most people. <P>
Most people experience diminished sexual impulses. Many experience delayed orgasmic responses. Some (not many) have increased sex drive. When that happens though, it may be signaling a manic episode. <P>
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Well I guess we have to take into account the years this was happening. Poor guy, he was on some cocktail of pills. Probably got the downers from Marilyn Monroe, she OD'ed on them after all.
But Stelazine for "anxiety"? Poor guy. They hardly give that to chronic schizophrenics anymore.
Ah, we've made such progress in psychotropic drugs since then. JFK would most likely be on an SSRI now. But there is no denying that this class of drugs (Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil) has profound effects on male (and sometimes female) sexual function.
I'm amazed Tony Soprano can satisfy all his goomahs now that he's doubled his dose of Prozac (interestingly - Prozac is now indicated in the PDR to treat male premature ejaculation.)
It's not as much as its hard to get hard as it is to come. The only antidepressant that I've found that almost never impairs male ejaculation is Serzone, but it doesn't really work that well (some of the recent literature says it needs to be used in much higher doses than usually prescribed.) I still think Celexa is the best in most cases (and now there's a newer version called Lexapro that seems to have even fewer side effects). But as we say, "without side effects, there are no effects."
Hmmm. Why am I rambling. This isn't funny.
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(But the Fun Dip stick trick really works, trust me!)
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CrazyClare
11-19-2002, 12:11 PM
see.. all the cool kids are doing it
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Recyclerz
11-19-2002, 08:48 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/interviews/int2002-11-18.htm <P>
The Atlantic Monthly article that started the discussion <P>
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TheMojoPin
11-19-2002, 09:53 PM
When JFK swallowed his pills, his head would go back...and to the left...
Wow. That sucked.
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The Chairman
11-19-2002, 10:31 PM
When JFK swallowed his pills, his head would go back...and to the left... <P>
Wow. That sucked. <P>
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Kinda like Gary Oldman's character Norman Stansfield is the phenominal movie The Professional? <P>
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