Is it ever ok to treat a woman badly

[Knowledged_one]

Not that i do but i have a friend or two that never treat women with any amount of respect. Whether calling them bitches, sluts, whores or what have you to just doing cruel things to them ( I would rather not detail all the things). It has gotten to the point where i can't even stand being around them anymore. So is there ever any time it is acceptable?

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

No, never. Anyone who allows themselves to be mistreated has self-esteem issues.

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[furie]

i never understood a guy hitting a woman. I can't imagine a situation when it'd be justified for a guy to lay into someone half their size.

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This message was edited by furie on 12-20-02 @ 4:39 PM

[Bama]

I'll bet your friend picks up woman like crazy.

Nice guys, sadly, do finish last.

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[Knowledged_one]

and i also agree that hitting a woman is the most cowardly thing any man can do at any time.

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[silera]

Everything depends on the situation. Sadly, there are lots of women that don't realize that respect is not earned by fighting like a banjee over every little thing, or harassing your boyfriend to the point that he's scared to pick up a cell phone. <P>
You get what you give in a relationship. I don't even think this stops at verbal abuse. If a woman feels confident enough to slap or attack someone, she should expect retaliation. It's not a popular opinion I know, but I think too many women start shit that they can't finish in a relationship. <P>
Obviously, this is not the case for all women, and there are many men that simply have no clue as to how to treat someone. I don't know the case you're referring to, but I would think it's the latter, since you're put off by their behavior. <P>
You strike me as someone that can tell the difference between someone getting the treatment they deserve and someone just being an asshole to another person. <P>


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[TheMojoPin]

It all comes back to the old "I won't hit a woman...but I'll sure shake the shit out of them" scenario.

If a relationship has reached to the point where either person feels the need to threaten, attack or insult verbally and/or physically, it's obviously doomed.

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[TooCute]

Mojo - people in
relationships fight. It's
normal. There's something
weird and wrong if you're
NOT fighting every once in a
while. As long as you learn
from the fights, they can be
constructive. People who
fight get upset and
frustrated, and such people
attack and insult each other
verbally. Is it pleasant? Of
course not. Does it mean
your relationship is
'doomed'? I doubt it.


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[TheMojoPin]

Mojo - people in
relationships fight. It's
normal.

I'm not talking normal, antagonistic relationship fighting, because the few longterm couplings I've had have been basically built on that. I'm talking where people are saying things to their partner with the intention only of hurting, degrading or intimidating them. And I still stand by the idea that nobody should ever, EVER feel physically intimidated or the need to phsyically intimidate in a "healthy" relationship. Where can you go from there? You've hit rock bottom.

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[ADF]

It's not ok to treat anyone badly, regardless of sex. Well, maybe you can treat JustJon badly. He has those shifty eyes.

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[canofsoup15]

It's not ok to treat anyone badly, regardless of sex.


Why cant everyone be as smart as adf

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[tricia]

only if she's a stupid cunt

[Jobberific]

I would never hit a woman...first. But don't start swingin unless you want a fight.

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[RF Godfather]

Not that i do but i have a friend or two that never treat women with any amount of respect. Whether calling them bitches, sluts, whores or what have you to just doing cruel things to them ( I would rather not detail all the things). It has gotten to the point where i can't even stand being around them anymore. So is there ever any time it is acceptable?So this ain't about Tom Leykis? Oh my word! Well, kiss my grits.

Seriously though, it isn't right to mistreat women or anyone for that matter. Case in point, ONA and Stalker Patty... come to think of it, bad example.

I know I got a got a good one somewhere up my sleeve. I'll get back to you on that one.

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If you don't like being around them k_o, I think you are better without them. Maybe you'll have a better chance with the ladies without them around befouling your "action" :)

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This message was edited by RonFez Mark on 12-21-02 @ 7:59 AM

[BrianTheBailBondsman]

it's O.K. only if the woman/Girl is one that has anything to do with not keeping Ron & Fez in N.Y.C. Then you beat them like a red-headed step child!

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[GaryWyze]

Seriously though, it isn't right to mistreat women or anyone for that matter. Case in point, ONA and Stalker Patty... come to think of it, bad example.


<font color=purple>Actually, that's a pretty good example.

No, it's never o'kay to mistreat a woman. Do some deserve to be mistreated? Well, yeah, sometimes... but regardless, a real man doesn't go down that road.

It's a dead end, and reaks of cowardice!

[Coco]

Of course, couples are going to argue. But physical abuse..I don't think so. There are other ways of getting one's point across without physical/verbal abuse.

Also Knowledged One, I have always believed that when a person abuses another person, it usually JUST isn't with that person only. (<u>It very rarely just stops there.</u>) I would say, beware if you yourself have conflict with this guy. Somebody like this, I am sure, wouldn't be a friend of mine.

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This message was edited by Coco on 12-21-02 @ 3:51 PM

[Dewey]

Ok, boys, gather round and let Uncle Dewey tell you a story. Women, like everyone else, want to feel like they are getting "a good deal" in a relationship. That is, they want to feel that the guy they are with equals or slightly exceeds what they could legitimately command in the marketplace. If you, as a guy, make yourself too available, seem too eager, or the like, she will interpret this as you hiding some flaws that she doesn't know about, and she will devalue you and take you for granted. And she will find someone else.

Some men sense this and crudely interpret it as a need to abuse women. Physical abuse is never warranted, nor should it be tolerated. Emotional or verbal abuse is not necessary either. But if you make yourself into a doormat or emotional puppy-dog, you're going to be spending a lot of time alone with your crank in your hand.

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This message was edited by Dewey on 12-21-02 @ 4:41 PM

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The wisdom this guy exudes is remarkable!

haha I said remarkable.

Anyway, back to slapping up some bitches...


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[TeRRoR]

It's not ok to treat anyone badly, regardless of sex.


i treat everyone bad... its my nature..

and also, from what i have been informed by many of people. but if a female wants to play a man's game, they are going to get burnt.

but just to hit a woman, no. your hand should never be raised to a women, unless she really does physical damage towards one... us guys the one thing we are allowed to do at anytime is grab them by their arms and just shake them hard... thats it.

BUT, if they start lettin fists fly and start goin nuts. you do what you have to do.

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[HordeKing1]

Knowledged One - From your depiction of your friends; they treat women like crap to make up for their own feelings of insecurity about their masculinity. (Take a look at some of the writings on "Hypermasculinity" in the gender role context).

You ask if such behavior is ever acceptable. While I find it difficult to ascribe absolutes, I find it just as hard here to imagine a situation that would justify such behavior.

TC pointed out that all couples fight. Of course they do. But there's a big difference b/w constructive fighting or even just getting pissed at each other in a non-constructive way, and acting the way you described your friends. When a relationship degenerates into cruelty, it's time to end the relationship


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[Justice4all]

The only time I ever got into a fight it was stopping someone from hitting his woman in a bar. To make a long story short...she was in shock someone spoke up for her.
Oh yea...the guy was pissed to.
But not as pissed as I was that he disrepcted almost everyone in the bar but abusing his woman like that.


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[fiestygal]

you only can treat a woman badly is she truely is an evil CUNT WHORE BITCH to you- someone who is 2 faced and talkes smack...smack the bitch up and ill kick her when she is down :)

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[Justice4all]

I do have to admit though...I do not condone the physical violence..I have been with and seen women who deserve nothing but comtempt.
Because they are female does not give them the right to be disrespectful. I was always taught you get back what you give out. I know it has been a mostly man run world until very recently. But there are a few women who need to be put in their place. No one person is better then another.
The only way you should treat them badly, verbally only, is if you get the same treatment.
But as soon as your hands go free....all bets are off.

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