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Tarantulady
01-04-2003, 08:53 AM
I was a pack-a-day smoker for seven years and I quit just over six months ago. I don't think I still have withdrawal symptoms, but I'm a different person! I can't get off my ass to do anything and all I want to do is eat, sleep, and hit people. I'm a complete bitch and I can't do a damned thing about it! Help, Horde King! Help!

gone
01-04-2003, 10:11 AM
oh great this is what i have to look foward too.. 6 months later!!! ugh...

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DarkHippie
01-04-2003, 10:20 AM
quitting smoking = oral fixation = more gooder

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HordeKing1
01-04-2003, 02:07 PM
TARANTULALADY - Quitting smoking is very hard, but it's one of the best things you can do for yourself. Give yourself a pat on the back.

You describe your current statis (6 months after quiting) as being unable to "get off [your] ass to do anything." You want to "eat, sleep and hit people."

You recognize that you don't have withdrawal symptoms which is great and amazing for such a heavy smoker. The other behavior though is problematic and should be addressed.

I'd be curious to know why you began to smoke so heavily in the first place. Many people smoke as a (maladaptive) way to cope with their problems. If the problems are still there and the coping mechanism is removed and not replaced by anything else, it's no wonder that you feel "a complete bitch" and are finding it difficult to do things.

It would be helpful to you to both address the problems you're having AND to learn other coping mechanisms. Exercise is a terrific method as it will get rid of some aggression and make you healthier in general.

The method you're relying on now is overeating (or at least desiring to eat constantly). Someone jokingly made reference to an oral fixation. There may be some measure of validity to this, but more likely it's replacing one comfortable behavior (smoking) with another that's close to it - eating.

You're very fortunate not to have withdrawal symptoms and you should give yourself a big pat on the back for having the willpower to give it up. Address the other problems constructively and you'll be back to your old (only healthier) self.

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TastelessGinny
01-05-2003, 05:14 AM
I quit smoking 5 years ago, and lost more than 70 pounds while doing it.

What helped me was exercise.

Since starting my job overnights, I have slowly gained a nice chunk o'fat back, so I have stopped driving to work and got myself a monthly bus pass--it's like 15 or so blocks from Port Authority to the station, and I can do it at a nice fast clip (with my short out-of-shape legs) in 15 minutes. I hope by summer to do it in half that time.

I urge you to start exercising--replace the cigarette habit with one that requires getting your blood pumping, that makes you do some deep-breathing and requires time to do.

The longer you exercise the more you will notice that your mood, memory and general disposition improves as well.

The longer you smoked, the longer the occasional craving for cigarettes will pop up to bug you--5 years later, the smell of cigarettes makes me nauseus and I can't breathe too well in a smoky room, but when I'm stressed my brain will occasionally scream 'CIGARETTE!' even though I know darn well that if I smoke I'm going to barf.

As the years go by those sudden cravings come farther and farther apart; when you get them, just stop whatever you're doing, and do something else. It's a wierd but effective coping strategy of mine--I'll be reading a book or watching TV or whatever with the family, and suddenly I'll get up without a word, and start doing something else. Now they all know that Mommy's got a craving (either food or cigarettes) so they don't uh, mock me too much for being so flighty. :)

So, give exercise a try, and good luck!

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reeshy
01-05-2003, 07:25 AM
See your doctor about a script for bupropion(zyban)

the patch is pretty good too(start with 21 mg.)

Drink lots of water and start sucking on hard candy

Find an enjoyable hobby to take your mind off of the cravings

Call your local hospital for the location of a good support group(most hospitals sponsor them)

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dcpete
01-05-2003, 07:35 AM
you could have an oral addiction, this happens to alot of people apparently. You should try to eat constantly be chewing something such as gum to keep your mouth happy. Also for food I recomend celery, it has negative calories so you won't be packing on the pounds and it takes a long time to chew and swallow. Also it has the same general shape as a cigarette so it might help any psychological addiction you'ld be battling.

good luck. I admire anyone who can relize their damaging themselve and change it.


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HordeKing1
01-06-2003, 03:29 PM
Since you don't describe any withdrawal symptoms, and 6 months have elapsed, starting the patch or similar product will just start the dependency cycle again and make it harder to stick with your resolution.



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dysthymic
01-07-2003, 02:29 AM
Don't think nicotine withdrawal is the issue Nicotine either was used to help with low levels of dopamine which is a neurotransmitter in the brain which among other things creates the sensation of pleasure and well being or long term use of nicotine perhaps somehow atrophied the the system that produces it. It would be better in either case to use under doctor's care Welbutrin or Zyban which are both the same drug. Welbutrin is used for treatment of depression of which wanting to eat all the time being angry or irritable wanting to sleep etc are signs of. These symtoms are often caused by lack of dopamine. Zyban bing the same drug is used for nicotine withdrawal because nicotine works by getting the brain to release dopamine among other things. Craving for nicotine is related to getting dopamine released by the brain which makes us feel good. It's a lot safer to take Welbutrin than to strt smoking again. I've been there.

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HordeKing1
01-07-2003, 04:37 PM
Only problems with that theory are: (1) people don't start smoking b/c they have a deficiency in dopamaine. (2) There's no indication that Tarantulady has low levels of dopamine now. (3) Her symptomatology can be explained by other factors having nothing to do with her history of smoking.

NEVER EVER SELF-MEDICATE. Wellbutrin is good for some, but not for others. It is not a happy pill. It just raises the nuerotransmitter levels (and not just dopamine - It also affects seretonin and norepinephrine).



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Tarantulady
01-07-2003, 06:34 PM
I appreciate everyone's input... Especially Horde King!!! I started when I was only 14, so I think it was more of an image thing.
I neglected to mention that I have bipolar disorder and panic attacks, which make stress a harder issue for me. That may be part of the Bitch Factor. I also have OCD so I hate changing my routine, even if my routine sucks. PLEASE don't send me a whole string of OCD jokes. I'm not sensitive about it, but I'm not a severe case and I get bored from all the jokes I get.


This message was edited by Tarantulady on 1-7-03 @ 10:45 PM

Tarantulady
01-07-2003, 06:34 PM
This message was edited by Tarantulady on 1-7-03 @ 10:41 PM

HordeKing1
01-08-2003, 10:42 AM
I neglected to mention that I have bipolar disorder and panic attacks

That's a very crucial piece of information. Make sure you tell any doctor you see about these diagnosis.

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