View Full Version : Michael Moore: "9/11 Passengers were scardey-cats"
Reephdweller
01-07-2003, 05:17 AM
I this found on Drudges site, this guy sickens me....
06 January 2003
I took my son to see Michael Moore live at the Roundhouse, in north London, before Christmas. The US radical and author of the best-selling book Stupid White Men was (mostly) clever, funny, angry, sharp, iconoclastic and sceptical about the lies and humbug processed by the US government and big business. Sure there were some flunked bits - you expect that, the troughs are part of the adventure, an evening with a well-worn rebel.
What we did not expect was to feel so enraged at one point that we almost walked out. It was when Moore went into a rant about how the passengers on the planes on 11 September were scaredy-cats because they were mostly white. If the passengers had included black men, he claimed, those killers, with their puny bodies and unimpressive small knives, would have been crushed by the dudes, who as we all know take no disrespect from anybody. God save us from such stupid white men, especially now, when in the US and the UK, black people's lives are being ripped to shreds by drugs, lawlessness, fear and frightful violence plus the endless circle of racism, exclusion and incarceration. This is not awesome, Mr Moore; it is a calamity, for descendants of slaves unimaginably more so.
http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=366725
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Yerdaddy
01-07-2003, 06:28 AM
Based on the tone of the rest of the op/ed this is from it is a gross eggageration. The rest of the peice she describes London, Manchester and Birmingham, England as being drenched in blood from gang violence. She uses more adjectives and metaphores about blood and death than Charles Manson's letters to Penthouse Forum. But, while she names people who have been killed, she cites no statistics for the violence in those cities. I spent two weeks in Manchester and London and didn't see any gang activity, or even any grafitti. Manchester was like a Massachusetts suburb. I never felt threatened in either city at night, (even when I was trying to see some titties in Soho), and I'm a big pussy.
The rest of this op/ed looks like pure sensationalism, and I'd bet a pint, a basket of chips, and a Soho tart that the part about Michael Moore is too.
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Tenbatsuzen
01-07-2003, 06:47 AM
Um... Drudge's site? Hello? That's all I needed to stop reading.
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DarkHippie
01-07-2003, 08:39 AM
you mean like the joke where the hijackers wouldn't of stood a chance if the took a Southwest Airlines plane?
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It was when Moore went into a rant about how the passengers on the planes on 11 September were scaredy-cats because they were mostly white. If the passengers had included black men, he claimed, those killers, with their puny bodies and unimpressive small knives, would have been crushed by the dudes, who as we all know take no disrespect from anybody.
I think I heard the same thing on BET Comic View. So if nothing else, Moore is a plagarist.
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ChickenHawk
01-07-2003, 08:45 AM
I don't even like Michael
Moore... at all. But I'm
willing to bet that not even
he would be angry and
cold-hearted enough to say
something like that.
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ChrisTheCop
01-07-2003, 08:47 AM
I'm sure he'll use the "parallel writing" defense.
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irishkb
01-07-2003, 08:59 AM
i thought he was an asshole before this and i still think he is...
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FMJeff
01-07-2003, 10:45 AM
It was when Moore went into a rant about how the passengers on the planes on 11 September were scaredy-cats because they were mostly white.
I don't know what the story is because the link doesn't work,but based on the above statement, I'm suprised most of you don't agree. White people are pussies.
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Patches
01-07-2003, 10:51 AM
White people are pussies.
That's a rash generalization, no? Isn't that when you usually start handing out free vacations? I guess that only works when the generalization is the other way around.
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IrishAlkey
01-07-2003, 11:08 AM
There's always some reality in jest.
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Yerdaddy
01-07-2003, 03:50 PM
White people are pussies.
I'm white and I resent that! If you say that to my face I'll scratch your eyes out!
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GvacNoMore
01-07-2003, 06:14 PM
I'd give a small fortune to be able to show Michael Moore just how much of a pussy I am.
I'm thinking a steel cage match.
The man is a low life and a piece of shit. Certain things should be off-limits when it comes to making light of them. September 11th certainly ranks as one of them.
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NewYorkDragons80
01-07-2003, 06:18 PM
For the record, it was Dave Chapelle. Something along the lines of black people being "Bad bargaining chips."
Has anyone else noticed Michael Moore's love for kissing the black man's ass? Watch the scene in Canadian Bacon where they have a racial discussion at the campfire, and the black guy went on to conquer the NHL, and even the book "Stupid White Men," is a title geared toward a black audience. It reminds me of Homer Simpson screaming "It's true, we're so lame!!!"
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FiveB247
01-07-2003, 08:02 PM
This article looks about as typical as a NY Post Liz Smith column. Michael Moore is a some what dignified writer and has opinions relevant enough for worth-wild books. Those quotes were obviously mis-leading and such. You all have taken this post so far out of the loop it is just dumbfounding. <P>
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schmega
01-07-2003, 08:07 PM
the plane that went down in philadelphia had white people, right?
i havent read michael moore's last book, nor did i watch his show on bravo. i did see 'roger & me' and catch him in a few interviews. he doesnt hate white people. he hates RICH WHITE PEOPLE. or anyone who pins the little guy down.
Reephdweller
01-07-2003, 08:18 PM
i havent read michael moore's last book, nor did i watch his show on bravo. i did see 'roger & me' and catch him in a few interviews. he doesnt hate white people. he hates RICH WHITE PEOPLE. or anyone who pins the little guy down.
what about terrorists? are you saying that it was all rich white people. no one deserved to die. none of any of those thousands of people deserve to be mocked or denegrated by anyone. i don't care who the person is, liberal or conservative, or whatever, i find anything by people that try to lessen the event and make crude jokes about people who died who were just trying to live to be callus and sick. poor or rich, none of them deserved what happened.
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Yerdaddy
01-07-2003, 09:35 PM
what about terrorists? are you saying that it was all rich white people. no one deserved to die. none of any of those thousands of people deserve to be mocked or denegrated by anyone. i don't care who the person is, liberal or conservative, or whatever, i find anything by people that try to lessen the event and make crude jokes about people who died who were just trying to live to be callus and sick. poor or rich, none of them deserved what happened.
I think your high horse has steered you a little off-course here. Nobody has suggested any of this, and it seems questionable if the quotes are accurate or even who said them in the first place. Time to shift back into type-B.
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Bob Impact
01-07-2003, 09:53 PM
Something along the lines of black people being "Bad bargaining chips."
To be fair to Mr. Chappelle, he did this joke for several years prior to 9/11.
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Reephdweller
01-08-2003, 02:23 AM
i'm not trying to get on a high horse with this, and i'm not trying to bring the board down with this discussion. but i will say that i've since seen this story on msnbc and fox news channel, so i think this has moved away from a sensational newspaper piece, to an actual legitimate story. i'm sorry if i implied that anyone was less or more sympathetic or whatever in their responses. i just happen to be a little sensitive on this subject.
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NewYorkDragons80
01-08-2003, 04:16 AM
Good call, Bob. It's my fault for not making that clear. Dave Chapelle did that way back when he was on Dr. Katz.
I could easily see Michael Moore telling the audience that a plane full of black people would not have been hijacked. I don't know about scaredy-cats, though.
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schmega
01-08-2003, 06:47 AM
are you saying that it was all rich white people.
where did i say that? i said moore hates rich white people. not rich white people on the plane. that entire paragraph had nothing to do with his remarks. i was saying from what i know of him, he hates rich white people. and now he probably hates terrorists.
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