Pronunciations

[LiquidCourage]

Ron and Fez are right about this. It's always bugged the hell out of me and I'm glad they talked about it.

I can't stand people who go into Italian delis and ask for "mozzarell" like leaving that A off makes them The Godfather or something.

It's retarded.

[Evilpete]

Even funnier is when someone does that to the Arab that now runs the Italian place!!!!

now I understand why the Chinese get angry when I say:
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[stickyfingers]

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[Bob Impact]

The first time that bad pronunciation comes out of a customer my uncle will act like he can't understand their accent. It's amusing and annoying at the same time.

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[HughJaCock]

Why aren't there any Italians working in any of the pizzarias in Manhattan? Especially downtown the pizza sucks and New york is supposed to be famous for it's pizza.

[FUNKMAN]

you're right...

i saw a program where they said the right pronunciation on these italian words is to also use the vowels on the end...

riccot / no good
riccotta / good
prosciout / no good
proscioutto / good

i have to admit that sometimes i just say "mozz"
"give me a sopressat and mozz with sun dried tomatas"

but since i saw that show i make a point of using the last vowel...


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[Bob Impact]

A along with E and O is a strong vowel in italian. It is very rare that the A is not pronounced in Italian, and is with rare exception not pronounced at the end of a word. If you are in a restaurant with the foods described in English, feel free to order in English as well. If you are in a restaurant without English on the menu you should be fine ordering with an English accent, but slaughtering the word is rude.




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[A.J.]

What Billy was saying was the Southern Italian pronunciation of those words. The Southern Italian and Sicilian dialects sound very different from "proper" Italian (which is based on the Tuscan dialect used by the poet Dante).

For example, a Northerner would pronounce "capicola" as it's spelled. Southerners call it "gah-bah-GOOL". Some other examples: "Pasta Fagioli" becomes "pasta fa-ZOOL", "prosciutto" is "prah-ZJOOT", and "manicotti" is "mah-knee-GAWT".

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[Evilpete]

Southern Italian pronounciation=the ebonics of Italy

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[furie]

if we're talking mispronounced words, we have to go with the king, GYRO. First time i met Mikey D was when he corrected me on it.

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[TheMojoPin]

Southern Italian pronounciation=the ebonics of Italy

Aright, now THAT is goddamn hilarious. And dead right. Nice.

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[LiquidCourage]

But Billy thinks he's pronouncing it correctly, but he's just slaughtering the word.

It's pathetic. He thinks he's Mr. Multiculturalism or something by leaving a vowel off.

[LiquidCourage]

It's pronounced sort of like "Geer-O", not "Jyro"

[sweet pea]

Thank you! You are so correct about this. One should NEVER chop the end off of a word, my last name would sound very strange if one did. <P> <P>

[Bob Impact]

What Billy was saying was the Southern Italian pronunciation of those words. The Southern Italian and Sicilian dialects sound very different from "proper" Italian (which is based on the Tuscan dialect used by the poet Dante).

Hey wait, i'm Sicilian, my entire family is Sicilian, we don't speak lazy Italian, leccaculo.

Bonus Points if you can translate that.

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[A.J.]

leccaculo


Ass-kisser.

Can I have my bonus points please kind Sir?

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[ADF]

I say we pronounce everything cajun.

Pronunci-aye-SHONE!

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[FUNKMAN]

how about the word PIZZERIA...

i pronounce it pizz-ear-ia

if they wanted it to sound like pizz-a-ria, why didn't they just leave the "a" in there...

this leads me to the question: "who has the frikin rights on how words are spelled or pronounced?" :)

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[Bob Impact]

AJ gets bonus points, even though it literally means asslicker. Hoorah.

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[sweet pea]

I'm Sicilian too, but you've got to agree that the Tuscan Italian is the purest. But who really cares? <P>

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[Miss Dolores Haze]

Actually the sicilian dialect is dying out in Italy along with the other regional dialects. Only the older people are still speaking it. But I still pronounce things the old sicilan way like:
ricotta = rigot


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[A.J.]

Hey wait, i'm Sicilian, my entire family is Sicilian, we don't speak lazy Italian,

I'm Sicilian too, but you've got to agree that the Tuscan Italian is the purest.


I should have clarified earlier my comment on "proper" Italian: I didn't mean to infer that other dialects were "lazy" or "impure" or anything else negative. Perhaps I should have chosen the word "official" instead.

When I was learning Italian in school I was taught that the Tuscan dialect, which Dante used, was considered the "formal/official/proper" version of Italian. It's the equivalent of "The King's English".

Besides, my grandfather's family was from Benevento so they spoke the Neapolitan dialect. Sorry for the confusion.

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[LiquidCourage]

Hey wait, i'm Sicilian, my entire family is Sicilian, we don't speak lazy Italian,


I'm Sicilian too, but you've got to agree that the Tuscan Italian is the purest.



Have no worries, ALL Italians are dirtbags, not just the Sicilians.

:)

[FelixDasGato]

I just say give me an order of muhtzy sticks or roast beef and muhtzy, everything else I point like a child and say give me that.

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[Bob Impact]

Have no worries, ALL Italians are dirtbags, not just the Sicilians.

I refuse to accept that Smiley, my rights are made clear under the TooCute act of 2002.

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[LiquidCourage]

eh, too bad

[Christy]

One day I was in line at a food court, and someone couldn't pronounce STROMBOLI!!!

"mozzarell"


That's the way it is supposed to be pronounced.

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[LiquidCourage]

No it's not.
That's how idiots THINK it's supposed to be pronounced.

You don't hear people in Italy saying just "mozzarrell", like if they left that A on they'd sound like us silly Americans or something.

[Gvac]

I'm half Sicilian and AJ is right. The Italian and Sicilian dialects are extremely different.

As for the vowels being left off the end, it's kind of a hybrid New York/Sicilian pronunciation.

Sicilian-Americans speak this way (Mozzarell, Ricott, etc.) but those in Sicily do not.

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[LiquidCourage]

No, ignorant Americans whose family has been here for 5 generations, have 20 of those little Italian flags all over their cars, and think their Mario Perillo say "ricott"

[Christy]

Hey TOOL ... I am not an IDIOT!

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[LiquidCourage]

Okay, you just have a speech impediment.

:)

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[Bob Impact]

That's the way it is supposed to be pronounced.

I think I just popped a blood vessel in my head, thanks.

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[sweet pea]

Let's all be happy :)


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