Hordeking, since you hate Bush

[luvmedoo]

Sing it baby!!

If You're Happy And You Know It, Bomb Iraq
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If you cannot find
Osama, bomb Iraq.

If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.

If the terrorists are frisky,
Pakistan is looking shifty,
North Korea is too risky,
Bomb Iraq.

If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.

If we think that someone's dissed us, bomb Iraq.

So to hell with the inspections,
Let's look tough for the elections,
Close your mind and take directions,
Bomb Iraq.


It's pre-emptive non-aggression, bomb Iraq.

To prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.

They've got weapons we can't see,
And that's all the proof we need,
If they're not there, they must be there,
Bomb Iraq.

If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.

If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.

If you think Saddam's gone mad,
With the weapons that he had,
And he tried to kill your dad,
Bomb Iraq.


If corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq.

If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq.

If your politics are sleazy,
And hiding that ain't easy,
And your manhood's getting queasy,
Bomb Iraq.

Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.

For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.

Disagree? We'll call it treason,
Let's make war not love this season,
Even if we have no reason,
Bomb Iraq.


Can't buy me love....

[Bama]

Bombing defenseless countries - always funny.

Bomb them forward to the stone age!



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Bomb them forward to the stone age!

true it would be an improvement

I am woman hear me roar, bitch, and whine.

[neo_aa]

That's a great song, don't know if you wrote it or not... but if you did, great!

Still, it's crap to blame corporate scandal on George Bush. All the stuff in question was going on during Clinton's administration.

If you mean Cheney in his personal life though, that's different.

And not elected?! He was put in office through the rules used in US elections for god knows how long. You can't just complain now because your guy didn't win.

I was going to go in to a lecture about the electoral system and why it's beneficial, but that would be overboard at least for now.

[Bama]

Oh God please don't let this thread degenerate into a 15 page political discussion.

On second thought, never mind. I won't read any of it. I'll just go to the last page and post anyway.

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[luvmedoo]

I happen to like the President Bush. I think for a guy who was barely in office trying to pick up the pieces of America after the clintons and 9/11. He is doing a hell of a job!!! I just know that Hordeking has a problem with Bush especially on him wanting to stop abortion, and among other things.

I didn't write the song. I just know that alot of Americans feel this way, and I was taunting Hordeking with the song mostly to make him laugh.
Everyone has a right to their own opinion. My opinion happens to be that I think that President Bush is a good president. :)

Can't buy me love....

[Christy]

HordeKing hates Bush -- are you gay, Hordeking?

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[HordeKing1]

Bush's war against women is just one of the many things I hate about him.

I also hate him b/c he's all talk and no action. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Libya, Yemin, and others should be smoking craters now. Instead, Bush will just jerk us around some more until the election gets closer, or he slips even further in the polls. It took him months to respond to 9/11 and he didn't accomplish the main objective. He allies the US with the largest terrorist state in the world.

Of course we need to invade Iraq. We should take it over and get all those oil fields that WE developed back.

Bush hasn't thought it that far ahead. (He's incapable of doing so. It's unfortunate that this very necessary war is in the hand of such an incompetent.)

Those who can do, those who can't talk. Bush is in the latter catagory. When we go to war, it will be a half-assed effort. We need to completely eliminate the threat.

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[TheMojoPin]

HK, normally I'm with you, but for a guy that gets so up in arms over the individual rights of each and every woman, you have no problem tossing out the idea of destroying entire countries from which SOME citizens might be/have been/will be terrorists. So the women in these countries don't even get the chance to choose to LIVE, much less have an abortion?

And this is isn't the only time...maybe you're pressed for time or peeved at the moment of posting, but you seem to be fond of the "kill a whole bunch of Arabs" horseshit "solution"...

Look, it's your opinion, so it's not like I expect you to back down, and nor should you have to...but it seems insane that the many have to pay so brutally for the evils and crimes of the relative few.

Maybe I'm totally missing how you really feel on the subject, but it just seems to be a steady trend when you bring up the current Middle East situations...

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[A.J.]

It took him months to respond to 9/11 and he didn't accomplish the main objective.


HK, you DO realize that it takes time to assemble and pre-position forces in order to wage a successful military campaign.

Case in point...

Of course we need to invade Iraq. We should take it over and get all those oil fields that WE developed back.


Granted we made some errors in Afghanistan. We wanted to include our "allies" (the Northern Alliance, etc.) when we should have relied on our Special Forces.

Maybe this is something to consider when people bitch that we'll be going at it alone in Iraq.

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[DCLobbyist]

Horde King: Stick to the pyscho-babble and leave politics to others. I'm amazed that you would hate Bush because you think he's stalled in his response to terrorists. first off, we have killed plenty of terrorists since 9/11, and in case you didn't notice, we also forced a regime change in their host country. do you think it's easy to mobilize an army? this isn't a video game, it takes at minimum three months to get the army ready. when they were ready, we hit Afghanistan. the comments about other countries, especially Lybia, make no sense. Lybia hasn't made a peep in years since we bombed their leader and killed his family members. notice we didn't have to destroy the whole country to get them to behave.

hating bush is fine, just pick a reason that makes sense.

[luvmedoo]

woo hoo slammed in your own chat forum! NOT once but many times!! ha ha All these guys make perfect sense too. Your objective for hating Bush is not really substantial. You try being president and see if you can handle the pressure of getting the bad guys over seas and trying to save the innocent while protecting our country from threats outside our borders.

You said that saudi arabi, libya, yemen, iraq should all be smoking craters by now.

Thats about like saying we should have killed all the jews when Hitler was under rule because they were in his country. You don't make a lick of sense Hordeking! Not all those people in those countries are evil people. Some want freedom, Others are brainwashed by their dictators, others are forced to follow or suffer the consequences.

Should we as a whole be destroyed because of our government?
Your just foaming at the mouth, shooting shit that makes no sense. How on earth did you become a moderator?

Can't buy me love....

[NewYorkDragons80]

I also hate him b/c he's all talk and no action. Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Libya, Yemin, and others should be smoking craters now. Instead, Bush will just jerk us around some more until the election gets closer, or he slips even further in the polls. It took him months to respond to 9/11 and he didn't accomplish the main objective. He allies the US with the largest terrorist state in the world.
I'll say it again, you cannot turn around and suddenly sever all ties with Saudi Arabia. That's more dangerous than allying ourselves with them. The fact is, the Saudi Royals are shitting their pants right now because we are going into Iraq. They realize how increasingly weak their control over the Saudi people is becoming every day. The fact that we are going into Iraq shows that we want another oil source as a safety in case the monarchy in Saudi Arabia is overthrown. Presently, the US military is considering transferring our main airbase in the gulf from Saudi Arabia's Prince Sultan Airbase to another airbase in Qatar. Has any other president in the history of our relations with Saudi Arabia done this much to piss them off?





Bush hasn't thought it that far ahead. (He's incapable of doing so. It's unfortunate that this very necessary war is in the hand of such an incompetent.)
You don't really think this way do you? Even if Bush is as incompetent as you are, which is physically impossible, there are numerous advisers whose job is to try to "think it out."

When we go to war, it will be a half-assed effort.
This is someone who has so much personal detestment for another human being that they aren't even capable of acknowledging their possibility to succeed.

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[TheMojoPin]

Hey, I'm not proud enough to say I can't be wrong...if Bush and co. actually pull off the Iraq situation, more power to 'em...

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[rmw]

I hate about him...I also hate


HK: Why all the anger?

[TooCute]

Ha so HK, my grandfather just won a humongous award for chemistry in Saudi Arabia, and needs to go there to actually receive it... should I go? :)

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Sure, if you want the terrorists to win :)

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They only win if he makes the trip in his SUV while ingesting nothing but phatty-boom-batty blunts...

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[HordeKing1]

MOJOPIN - You're laboring under the comfortable Western assumption that we're dealing with rational human beings. We are not. You mistakenly think that it is a few. It is the entire society that promotes, encourages, ideolizes and fosters terrorists. They like the Germans, are "Willing Executioners." (A must read book about the entire German people's participation in the Holocaust).


AJINDC - The US has a complete carrier group (Battleship, carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 subs, 11 ships total) in the persian gulf). There are also rapid response special force teams available whenever needed. The weapons were already in the area. Bush was just an inefficient dope who couldn't do something a child could have done. But that's not surprising. He's failed at every task he's ever attempted.

DCLOBBYIST - I'm always amused how people who are ignorant about basic global, national and local events are able to delude themselves into believing they have an informed opinion. How do you do it and keep a straight face?

Luvmedoo - All of 25 posts. I'd guestimate that at about 15 years above your age. Your analogy makes no sense whatsover. And learn the difference b/w a mature discussion and what you colorfully (and maturely) refer to as "woo hoo slammed in your own chat forum." Get a clue.

NYDRAGON - Bush may have advisors, but he has the ultimate decision making power. A very scary thought.

RMW - Hate not anger. I have very low tollerance for stupid, incompetent, morally deficient, fools. From your prior posts, I'd have to say that those sound just like your kind of people.

Too Cute:
Ha so HK, my grandfather just won a humongous award for chemistry in Saudi Arabia, and needs to go there to actually receive it... should I go?

It depends. Do you have a special interest in studying the effects of radiation on chordates?

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[TheMojoPin]

MOJOPIN - You're laboring under the comfortable Western assumption that we're dealing with rational human beings. We are not. You mistakenly think that it is a few. It is the entire society that promotes, encourages, ideolizes and fosters terrorists. They like the Germans, are "Willing Executioners." (A must read book about the entire German people's participation in the Holocaust).

I've actually read "Willing Executioners". But if the masses are equally or almost as responsible as the "criminals" themselves, why should we have relations with Germany at all today? Can a country and its people ever be forgiven for the sins of the past or the relative few? What is your view towards Germany and it's people today? Do you think all they've accomplished in the last 60 years is moot since they should have been "bombed into the stone age?"

And I'm sorry, but you're 100% wrong in stating that the majority of Arab people participate, consider, aid or even support terrorism. You're equating disagreeing/disliking/hating American with wanting to destroy it automatically, which simply isn't the case. It's a huge leap to go from "hating" a vague politcal/social ideology that you don't fully understand to wanting to destroy it and kill the people that practice it.

Millions of Arabs live around the world and in the Middle East who simply want to live their lives as "normal" as possible. I attended three seperate internationl schools as a grew up overseas, and all three had Arab student populations that numbered between 10 and 30%. While many often disagreed (And quite passionatly and vocally) and flat out despised many American politics and practices, they simply did not want to hurt or kill anyone over these issues. It's too massive of a leap to go from disagreeing or disliking a politcal orientation or affiliation to wanting to kill the person right in front of you who believes/practices it/them. Once you get away from a constantly oppressive system the just pounds lies, falsehoods and half-truths about America into you day after day, you CAN think for yourself. Many of these kids were my friends, close friends.

So unless there's some massive, huge coverup that I was completely oblivious to, automatically assuming that the best solution in the Middle East is a "good ol' mass-bombin'" is simply ludicrous. For one thing, such a monstrous act would actually make some of the outrageous and slanderous lies that the terrorists preach come true. A barbaric act is a barbaric act, no matter who is perpetrating(sp?) it or the "justification".

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[luvmedoo]

Mr Hordeking, I was born in 1965, but GOD BLESS you for thinking I was younger. So you are wrong about the age. As far as maturity goes? You are just upset because I put you in your place, and you don't really have a substantial comeback with what I posted. Just face it- many people on this forum don't agree with you. As far as the number of my posts goes- only being 25, shows that I have a life and don't sit on my ass all day like you do. So Mr Hordeking, your the one that needs to get a clue, better yet, get a life!

[luvmedoo]

Another thing Hordeking, I have re-read your posts for the ones that disagreed with your opinions, and you literally called everyone stupid. Some you called fools! And you talk about maturity?

Underneath I am detecting some self esteem issues. You seem to be carrying around alot of anger.

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MOJOPIN - You're laboring under the comfortable Western assumption that we're dealing with rational human beings. We are not. You mistakenly think that it is a few. It is the entire society that promotes, encourages, ideolizes and fosters terrorists. They like the Germans, are "Willing Executioners." (A must read book about the entire German people's participation in the Holocaust).

You are basing your perceptions of their culture based on the actions of a small part of their population, who happen to be idiots.

AJINDC - The US has a complete carrier group (Battleship, carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 subs, 11 ships total) in the persian gulf). There are also rapid response special force teams available whenever needed. The weapons were already in the area.

If this was going to be a naval battle, then yes the US would crush the Iraqi navy. Do you remember a little city, Moghidishu, in a poor little country called Somalia? Do you remember what happened in there? Did you know the US soldiers killed over there were Special Forces? Did you know they ran up against a whole quarter of the city? Did you even know the reason they were even in Moghidishu? If not then that is ok. Do you remember the Iranian hostage crisis? Do you remember the botched rescue attempt? Did you know that the soldiers that died during that botched attempt were Special Forces? This is not a knock against the US Special Forces. Personally if I got into a bad situation I would prefer them to back me before anyone else. This is a knock against the leadership that used them improperly.

Bush was just an inefficient dope who couldn't do something a child could have done. But that's not surprising.Ineffecient is when you waste a missile on a laxative factory. Inefficient is not equiping helicopters with filters so the engines don't get clogged. This is actually a rather efficient move on Bush's part. The Special Forces are great on their own they are far better when they are working in concert with the rest of the Armed Forces. Bush and his advisors seem to understand that quite well
He's failed at every task he's ever attempted

As opposed to Al"Wile E. Coyote" Gore?
DCLOBBYIST - I'm always amused how people who are ignorant about basic global, national and local events are able to delude themselves into believing they have an informed opinion. How do you do it and keep a straight face?

See the above.
RMW - Hate not anger.

Hate is such a powerful negative emotion. It can lead to some serious and sometimes deadly errors.

I hate very low tollerance for stupid, incompetent, morally deficient, fools. From your prior posts, I'd have to say that those sound just like your kind of people.


I hate that myself but I hate it worse when I find it in myself. Not to sound like Master Yoda, but hate really does lead to the Dark side. Personally I think you are a very intelligent person, but you are letting your hate for Bush cloud your thinking.

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[mercury29]

Bush's war against women is just one of the many things I hate about him

I totally agree with you, and I don't feel that it is mentioned enough, and if it is, it isn't taken seriously enough

[HordeKing1]

LUVMEDO - I'll refrain from ripping you a new asshole, as the one you have is obviously quite large enough.

I find it hard to believe that someone could be 37, and have the emotional and mental accuity of a 10 year old. How do you get by everyday tasks with such a limited grasp on basics.

I pity you.

1. You fail to read all the posts. You cannot comment on ANYTHING you come into the middle of without sounding like even more of a complete idiot. This particular topic has been discussed in about 10 or more other posts.

2. Your "arguments" are illogical, foolish and confrontational instead of addressing whatever opinion you're parroting (I mean that you may have.)

3. "God Bless." Whoooo, I'm mortally wounded. You invoked the big invisible man in the sky.

4. You fail to realize that although many people in ALL forums have different opinions, most discussions are conducted in an intelligent mature fashion. Your very first post precluded that from happening here.

5. You fail to recognize a difference of opinion (like those of the deists and atheists) and stupid statements sucha as "AIDS doesn't exist.

6. As far as the number of my posts goes - only being 25, shows that I have a life and don't sit on my ass all day like you do.

And yet here you are.

By the way, being disabled I have no choice but to sit on my ass all day, at work or home. The difference is that while I'm sitting on my ass, I'm improving the lives of hundreds of people a year.

7. Finally, although I'm sure you'll fail to understand this, the defense mechanism you're using to mask your underlying insecurity and self-contempt is called "projection". You're basically saying, "I'm not immature, you are." "I don't need to get a life, you do." "I'm not stupid you are." It's an immature maladaptive practice that will cause you much grief if it continues, in all aspects of your life.

You might want to turn to "undoing" your foolishness as soon as you say something, so that it doesn't come back to bite you on the ass. As long as it's not accompanied by delusions (yet to be ascertained in your case) it is a more mature form of protecting your fragile little self while allowing you the brief recognition and even dare we hope insight, that you're acting poorly.


You are more than welcome to stop posting in this forum or this board. In fact I suggest you do so, until you mature a bit. You will not be missed.

(Read Mojo's post for an example of an opinion that I completely disagree with, but that is stated eloquently, non argumentatively, rationally, remains on topic and actually says something.)

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[HordeKing1]

MOJO wrote:

And I'm sorry, but you're 100% wrong in stating that the majority of Arab people participate, consider, aid or even support terrorism. You're equating disagreeing/disliking/hating American with wanting to destroy it automatically, which simply isn't the case. It's a huge leap to go from "hating" a vague politcal/social ideology that you don't fully understand to wanting to destroy it and kill the people that practice it.

I think MOJO that you're not fully aware of the vehemence the Moslem Arabs hold for all things American and Jewish - and non-Islam for that matter. I think you're unaware of the tremendous propeganda that goes on in the Arab schools about the evil of America and Israel and Western Civilization. I think you're ignoring the glorification by the entire populace of the 9/11 suicide bombers (funded by Saudi Arabia with gifts given to their families by Sadam Hussein.)

Here are a few things you might find interesting. I have many many more, but these items happened to cross my desk today.

Did you know that Osama bin Laden key chains are on sale for $1.00 in the Muslim quarter of Jerusalem's Old City? You can see a picture of them at:

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php.

Returning to the topic of the education of impressionable young minds, the following is what the soldiers who shut down the Palestinian schools found there, what the "religion of peace" teaches its children:

[quote]Palestinian Schools Which Encouraged Terror Closed By IDF -- January 15th, 2003 from: http://www.idf.il/newsite/english/0115-3.stm

Last night, in a joint operation carried out by IDF ordnance units and companies from the 'Nahal' infantry brigade in Hebron, the entrances of three Palestinian colleges that openly encouraged terrorism were sealed closed. "The Palestinian Authority Education System incites terror and encourages murder,"
commented a high ranking Israeli security source, adding, "these three colleges endorsed terror and acts of vengeance as part of their curriculum". Before beginning to seal the doors of the
colleges, the forces collected incitement materials found inside.

We don't want to hurt the Palestinian population, but we must prevent incitement by their leadership.

The commander of the Nahal company that took part in last nights operation elaborated on the aims of the operation: "We do not in
any manner wish to harm the innocent Palestinian population,however, we have a duty to prevent education that incites murder
of Israelis. That is why we chose to go about the operation in the way that we did, by sealing the doors and blocking the entrance to the school in a manner that can be reversed, and not
by demolishing the buildings".

At approximately 23:00, after a short briefing at the Nahal
Brigade's base, ordnance forces, backed up by two Nahal infantry companies, entered the city of Hebron. A special IDF team from the Documentation Branch joined the forces operating in the area in order to collect the incitement of terror materials found in the colleges. The deputy commander of the Documentation Branch,
Itsik, emphasized the main importance of exposing the propaganda incitement collected in order to increase global understanding of what we are fighting.

The first college to be sealed up in this operation was the Islamic College of Hebron. Upon entering the college campus, the soldiers asked the college guards to accompany them into the
building. The guards agreed, and after entering the building, the forces began searches of the classrooms, the corridors and the offices. Outside the building was a sort of sheltered area over which the words: "It is holy to remember the martyr" was painted.

The whole of the first floor was decorated with banners upon which the "whole land of Palestine" was depicted, as well as slogans advocating the destruction of Israel.

Children's notebooks covered with pictures of "Martyrs" being taught to hate from a young age.

In the main office, situated on the first floor, soldiers we

[TheMojoPin]

I think MOJO that you're not fully aware of the vehemence the Moslem Arabs hold for all things American and Jewish - and non-Islam for that matter. I think you're unaware of the tremendous propeganda that goes on in the Arab schools about the evil of America and Israel and Western Civilization. I think you're ignoring the glorification by the entire populace of the 9/11 suicide bombers (funded by Saudi Arabia with gifts given to their families by Sadam Hussein.)

No, I AM fully aware of the emotional environment in much of the Arab nations, and as I stated, I'm also very aware of how once people get out from under that kind of nonstop barrage of sensationalism, propaganda and lies, most Arabs are fully content to join and work with the "Western" world.

This is, of course, not true for many Arab extremists. There ARE far too many who, no matter what they are told or experience otherwise, will still emrbace and support the idea of violence and terrorism. Yes, these people need to be captured and/or killed, and as much as I don't want to think so, millitary occupation or intervention on our part may simply be necessary to "surgically" root out many of the sources of these attitudes, be they Arab citizens, millionaires, millitary leaders, businessmen or politicians.

And while I vehemtly oppose the idea of blanket hatred towards Israel and America, I also understand why many of these people would disagree our dislike many of our actions and policies around the world. Most American seem to think that the people who "hate" will suddenly "love" us if we invade or bomb them enough. They also seem to think that if a country and its people doesn't "love" America (Even though most of the Middle Eastern nations really don't have a reason to. Yes, many should ally with us and show more tolerance, but really, why SHOULD they "love" our country unconditionally?) then it needs to be "destroyed."

There is an obvious widespread "infection" of tolerance for terrorism and the support of violence in many of the Moslem/Muslim nations, but it simply is not true for all of the citizens in these countries. And even many of those that show those sentiments now are not necessarily lost causes. Sadly, a lot of these people are just "going with the flow" because it's all their leaders allow them to be exposed to. They don't necessarily believe in or participate in it, but it's really all they know.

It simply seems too barbaric and unecessary and again, too much like a large scale terrorist action and too much like what the terrorists accuse of doing already if we decided to wipe out a large segment of any country's population on a massive scale. We're simply too good for that.

And let me ask you this...do you support any and all actions Israel takes in the Middle East? I'd say I support them a good 75% of the time, but feel they are flat-out too antagonistic and hardline on a number of issues concerning Arab citizens within Israel and the Palestinians. I'm in the thinking that Israel's "claim" to the land is just as fictitious as that the Palestinians flaunt about, and more steps need to be taken to accomodate both sides instead of one or the other.

And while your examples, articles and quotes are excellent and well-researched, they simply cannot be applied to each and every Arab/Muslim/Moslem citizen. It's picking the worst of the bunch, and trying to present it as the majority. There's a massive difference to SAYING you believe in or support something and then actually directly aiding in or causing it. Like I said before, sometimes it's all one knows, and you simply don't know any better, until someone TEACHES and SHOWS and EDUCATES you otherwise...violence is, unfortunately necessary as we deal with these situations, but not wholescale genocide.

By the way, have you read "From Beirut To Jerusalem" and Joe Sacco's "Palestine"? Two excellent, excellent books on the Israeli/Palestinian situation that I think you would really enjoy...

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[Yerdaddy]

Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Libya, Yemin, and others should be smoking craters now.
HK, are you referring to this as your "Final Solution" yet?

Don't bother responding as I'm not interested in rehashing our old arguments about whether Arabs are human or not, as it would be as absurd as arguing whether the Holocaust happened or not. You'll accuse me of being anti-semitic and of buying into Arab propaganda like the US State Department and the United Nations, while you post sources like branches of AIPAC and Alan Keyes.

I just feel like pointing out that your posts about Arabs are as racist as Nazis, Holocaust deniers, and the fundamentalist terrorists of Palestine and Al Quaeda. You just assume that because it's pro-Israel its justified. It's horse shit racism and you know it.

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I think you're unaware of the tremendous propeganda that goes on in the Arab schools about the evil of America and Israel and Western Civilization



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LUVMEDO - I'll refrain from ripping you a new asshole, as the one you have is obviously quite large enough.
Hordeking, you hate gays now? :)

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[luvmedoo]

LUVMEDO - I'll refrain from ripping you a new asshole, as the one you have is obviously quite large enough.


Ah! Hordeking, The only reason you know how big my ass is... IS because you been licking on my crack. What I'm really getting tired of is how you compare me to your mother.

I will refrain from knocking you off your pedal stool with retort comebacks as you have.
I had to laugh at your effort though.

Give it up.. your not comedic material!


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[DCLobbyist]

In reposnse to this:
DCLOBBYIST - I'm always amused how people who are ignorant about basic global, national and local events are able to delude themselves into believing they have an informed opinion. How do you do it and keep a straight face?

let me say that i've met with virtually every ambassador from every middle east nation and have given interviews to virtually every national print and tv station on a wide range of political issues. when someone pays you to visit a middle east embassy on their behalf, then you can call me ignorant.

[HordeKing1]

Only the most severe homophobe would consider a comment about an asshole being a reference to gays.

An asshole is an asshole. Unless the term threatens your fragile sense of masculitnity or perhaps even your gender identity you would not associate it with homosexuality.

I'll make it simple for you, Luvmedoo. You're an obnoxious little pissant whom I've allowed the board members to be exposed to long enough. You are not capable of intelligent thought or of expressing even a dopey opinion in a non-abrasive fashion. You never respond to any points, but instead attack on spurious grounds. You twist facts and are so egocentric it's to the point of solipism (Look it up).

Enjoy your 2 week vacation.

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[HordeKing1]

DCLOBBYIST - I've given talks in embassies as well. I'm in a PAC. I have weekly corresondence with some highly placed elected officials.

Big fucking deal.

If you don't recognize that the vast majority of the stuff they feed you is bullshit, it does not speak well for your critical thinking skills.

This is particularly true of the "Middle East" embassies you've visited and seem to be overly fond of.

If you've indeed had the experiences with your pals the Arabs that you say; based on your limited posts here, the only conclusion to be drawn is that you're an effective mouthpiece for them - swallowing their lies hook, line and sinker. Think for yourself! Do some independant research! Don't sell yourself to terrorists. Don't betray the USA. Don't profess knowledge when all you have is Arab propeganda.



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