who's fault? O and A . MOSTLY OPIE

[mad tom]

SAY WHAT YOU WILL. BUT THE FAULT OF LOSING RON AND FEZ LIE WITH OPIE AND ANTHONY. NOT SO MUCH ANTHONY. YOU SEE OPIE WAS AN EGO MANIAC AND THAT IS JUST THE TRUTH. HE GOT THE CHICK FIRED WHEN SHE WAS DOING VERY WELL IN THE RATINGS. THEN SHOT DON AND MIKE DOWN BEFORE THEY HAD A CHANCE. AS WELL AS TOM LEYKIS. FOR THE RECORD I HATE LYKAS AS WELL AS DON AND MOKE. AS FOR THE RADIO CHICK I COULD DO WITHOUT HER. BUT AT A TIME THE LINEUP A NEW WAS A PROMISING ONE. THEN OPIE BECAME AN EGOMANIAC AND DID NOT WANNA SHARE THE STATION WITH ANOTHER SUCCESSFUUL SHOW. SO HE HAD CHICK AXED AND THEN DID IN DON AND MIKE AND THEN CUT THERE OWN THROAT AND IN THE PROCESS COST US NOT ONLY THERE SHOW BUT MORE IMPORTANT RON AND FEZ. MANY WILL JUMP ALL OVER ME FOR THIS HOWEVER IT IS THE TRUTH. IF OPIE WAS A TEAM PLAYER AND NOT A BACKSTABBIN SCUMBAG WE WOULD BE LISTENING TO A FEZATORIAL RIGHT NOW.

thomas

[DantheBartender]

Can anyone who can form a coherent sentence confirm this "statement"?

[Christy]

Mad Tom - You are a MAD Tom!

I see where you are coming from. I love both shows ... but I am pissed that Ron and Fez get F***ed over because of another shows actions.

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Imagine your "friend" coming into work and doing something "inappropriate" ... and you getting fired/let go for it. Man, that would piss me off!

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[Death Metal Moe]

You're retarded.

DON AND MIKE failed because DON AND MIKE ARE RADIO AIDS and SUCK THE SHIT FROM A DEAD DOG'S ASSHOLE. Same with Leykis AND the Radio Cunt.

Now as far as BLAMING O&A, how can you? It was their CONSTANT breaking of rules and testing the limits that made their show SO good. You can't blame them for doing their show.

I blame the Execs who just don't care about us for switching to an EASY Top 40 station.

Good luck assholes.

Opie MAY be an asshole, but I can't say I blame him for all this. Do you think he REALLY wants to be off the air even if it means sharing the radio with people YOU think he hates?

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[The Jays]

IF OPIE WAS A TEAM PLAYER AND NOT A BACKSTABBIN SCUMBAG WE WOULD BE LISTENING TO A FEZATORIAL RIGHT NOW.


... no we wouldn't... it is Tuesday.... YOU FUCKING TOOL!

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[mothershucker]

You know who is really at fault? The fucking scum bag morning man at XRK. If he was not such a douche nozzel and came over to do mornings on "hot talk" 1027, the format would have been a huge succes, and none of this shit would be happening. You see, the O and A firing was done because the stations ratings blew. I know O and A where kicking ass, but everything else had no ratings (well, the boys where starting to get some ratings)! If big bird had been doing mornings (as he fucking should have), they would not have gotten rid of the format. Fuck you Howie.

I shucked it, and I shucked it, and I shucked it, i'm quite the mother shucker

[Reephdweller]

take the caps lock off first, then retype what you wrote...then i'll read it.

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SAY WHAT YOU .....{insert INANE CHATTER here}.... FEZATORIAL RIGHT NOW. <P>
thomas <P>
Are you done? Anything else? <P>
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[mercury29]

SAY WHAT YOU WILL. BUT THE FAULT OF LOSING RON AND FEZ LIE WITH OPIE AND ANTHONY. NOT SO MUCH ANTHONY. YOU SEE OPIE WAS AN EGO MANIAC AND THAT IS JUST THE TRUTH. HE GOT THE CHICK FIRED WHEN SHE WAS DOING VERY WELL IN THE RATINGS. THEN SHOT DON AND MIKE DOWN BEFORE THEY HAD A CHANCE. AS WELL AS TOM LEYKIS. FOR THE RECORD I HATE LYKAS AS WELL AS DON AND MOKE. AS FOR THE RADIO CHICK I COULD DO WITHOUT HER. BUT AT A TIME THE LINEUP A NEW WAS A PROMISING ONE. THEN OPIE BECAME AN EGOMANIAC AND DID NOT WANNA SHARE THE STATION WITH ANOTHER SUCCESSFUUL SHOW. SO HE HAD CHICK AXED AND THEN DID IN DON AND MIKE AND THEN CUT THERE OWN THROAT AND IN THE PROCESS COST US NOT ONLY THERE SHOW BUT MORE IMPORTANT RON AND FEZ. MANY WILL JUMP ALL OVER ME FOR THIS HOWEVER IT IS THE TRUTH. IF OPIE WAS A TEAM PLAYER AND NOT A BACKSTABBIN SCUMBAG WE WOULD BE LISTENING TO A FEZATORIAL RIGHT NOW. <P>
thomas <P>
Enough of this pointless O&A bashing that has no basis in fact. As a fan of both shows, this isn't any easier on us. Opie did not get the Chick or Don & Mike fired. He didn't have that much control over decisions like that. The Chick got fired after criticizing the "Stern Ban", and didn't have the ratings to save her job. d&M didn't have the ratings either. o&a did not sabatoge their own jobs. They went ahead with a bit that was approved by
management and lawyers, and was a bad idea all along that went horribly wrong. They also had to contend with a 3rd rate comic that couldn't realize that just because someplace is on a list, you don't go there. For Chrissakes Bill Clinton's office was on there too. He also didn't seem to realize that going out of your way to get arrested live on the radio is something you should try to not do. Management was probably hoping for an excuse to change formats because talk was not working, and they could escape this unscathed. As far as Opie being this egomaniac who can't share a station with another successful show, that is bullshit! Anyone who knows both shows would know that Opie and Anthony were more supportive of Ron & Fez than anyone there. RON & FEZ (and their fans) were just the last unfortunate victims of the inevitable after going through alot of lows and not enough highs. Stop acting like this is all O&A's fault. Do you honestly think that they enjoy not being on the air doing their show back to back with Ron & Fez? That was the last bastion of fun, unique radio that we had.


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[RocOutWithYACockOUT]

This whole thing is O&A's fault. The irony of the situation was that O&A always goofed on shock jocks who did wacky radio bits. But come on, Sex For Sam. That was very wacky. Here they are getting fired for what will go down in the history of radio as another wacky radio bit. <P>

Revenge is the Sweetest Joy Next to getting pussy.-2PAC

[Dan]

This is the most fucking stupid
thing I have ever read.

You are making absolutely no
sense.

Without O&A (and MOSTLY
Opie) Ron and Fez wouldn't have
jobs in NYC to begin with.
Without Opie, there would be no
WNEW the Talk Station. Without
Opie and the ratings that he
garnered, you'd have heard J-Lo
on WNEW 3 years ago.

Shit happens. You can spend
your time placing blame, but
why? It's the Radio business and
it's the nature of the beast...

Opie (and Anthony) helped R&F
get to their highest-high and I'm
sure R&F wouldn't trade any of it
for the world.


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[FIG]

Dan I agree with you. no matter what happened or will happen Ron and Fez were still number 1 in male demos and you cant take that away from them. Alot of other shows sucked in NY and were fired bec of ratings (the list is long) but Ron and Fez were replaced bec they just didnt fit any format at this time.

[schmega]

thank you dan, but somehow your words will fall on deaf ears.

for all you dipshits who blame o&a, you probably blame 9/11 on our country as well. you blame for the sake of blaming, and most likely never take responsibility for your own actions.

if you o&a haters ever listened to their show, you'd know it's really paul mercurio's fault. his big mouth started this nightmare. its also his big mouth that made him a hit on the show in the first place. but its not about him.

without o&a doing the things that made them who they are, we would've never had r&f. if you're too stupid to understand that, how the hell did you become a fan of r&f in the first place?

[fiestygal]

Can anyone who can form a coherent sentence confirm this "statement"?


well they dont call him mad tom for nothing ya know

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[robification]

this is disgusting. O&A and R&F ALWAYS suported each other, from the first day to the last. R&F did some great radio... that goes without saying.... but to blame O&A?!?! you truly ARE insane. way back when it was R&F.com, o&a were always trying to turn their listeners to r&f. fact is, though ron and fez did some great radio, one of the biggest reasons why they caught on in the first place was O&A being right before them. O&A also would talk about the r&f show the night before often.... and even play clips. if you wanna blame o&a, blame them for r&f's success.... though personally i feel they would have been successful anyway.

as far as the stuff with d&m and the radio chick.... do your homework.... you obviously dont have a clue.

PS- if you NEED to blame someone, blame the WNEW management. they never stood behind O&A or R&F.... didnt even advertise. geez.... waited many months for my card which never came. if WNEW told the tools in the catholic league to bang themselves, the 2 shows would now be #1 in their time slots

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[Fetus4Lif]

i blame that church for being there

"Ron Bennington from WNEW's "The Ron and Fez Show" has said, "God is putting the band back together". In a way that's a comforting thought. Unless of course your last name ends in Ramone."

[Noonan]

Hell, I've seen it all...

I'm with Dan, Moe, et al. on this one. ;)

"Give the people what they want." - I have no fucking clue who first said this.




This message was edited by Noonan on 1-29-03 @ 1:01 AM

[Noonan]

...and I did it right the first time!

[c-dub]

ah - it sure made a hellova
lot of sense getting into
on-air wars with other shows
on the station (shows that you
weren't even competing agains)
simply because you are are
insecure about your own
talents. Yeah, that made a lot
of sense - hurting the shows
around you so they don't
succeed will really be good
for the longevity of the
station - lying to your
listeners and trying to
sabatage any other show's
growth in other markets.

Yeah - O&A sure did help WNEW
and Infinity!

Wake up you ASS HOLES!!!

How many more people at WNEW
need to be canned before
people start admitting that
the blame begins and ends with
Opie and Anthony???? Oh
wait... there is no one left
at WNEW! I guess we know the
answer.

It's disusting all of the
friggin O&A apologists out
there - no wonder Ron and Fez
couldn't stay on the air. Even
their fans viewed them as a
supporting show to O&A.

I said a year ago (on oa.com)
that it was a mistake riding
Opie and Anthony's coat-tails:
that Ron and Fez put on a
better show, and eventually
O*A would find a way to screw
them.

OOOOH! But it's OK...because
they are FRIENDS! Because Ron
and Fez are part of the O&A
Army!

Yeah...an army that always
"wins in the end," even though
everyone (except the generals)
are now unemployed.

Again - NO WONDER RON AND FEZ
ARE OFF THE AIR! Everything
connected to Opie and Anthony
TURNED TO SHIT - AND THE FANS
WILL STILL MAKE EXCUSES FOR
THEM!!!

The only ones right now
collecting pay checks from
WNEW are Opie and Anthony: two
talentless humps who didn't
know the difference between
being cutting edge, and
cutting the throats of their
employers by threatening their
license.

Keep making excuses - that
will bring back Uncle Ron and
Aunt Fez

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[Johnny4]

I agree with mad tom. To me R&F are a stand alone show and would have been on in NY at some point with or without O&A. Listen O&A were funny for a while, but they took a bad turn after 9/11 and lacked any human compassion whatsoever. It turned me off as a listener and I never really got into them again. I also blame Opie specifically. He was the wanna radioexec, former top40 DJ, who rode Anthony's talent to the top. O&A were always supportive of R&F(especially ANT who you could tell LOVED the show) but I always felt Opie's interactions were forced. Remember, they have the same agent, why do you think Brother Wease was on on weekends? Same reason.

I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything, I wasn't there and if I was there I was asleep.

[CruelCircus]

Can anyone who can form a coherent sentence confirm this "statement"?
There's plenty of coherent statements here. It's just a matter of whether you agree with him or not. If you insult him just because you don't like what he said, it makes YOU incoherent, not him...

[CruelCircus]

Look, the issue is this- you can love R&F and O&A and still hate how things went down. It's silly to say that O&A getting fired had nothing to do with the eventual end of FM-TALK.
Why did it all crumble? Only because O&A went down first. Now, that statement doesn't mean that O&A didn't supoort Ron & Fez, or even that they didn't have a big part in making R&F popular... they clearly DID!
Everyone is being so absolute in their statements, it's all being blurred... You can love O&A and admit that they helped R&F and still honestly be able to admit that their downfall brought about the end of WNEW as we knew it.

If you want to talk about D&M and Leykis, ask this: if we had worked extremely hard, and made sure that D&M had amazing ratings... would they be gone and would talk be gone?!

-Mace

[Spoil-Sport]

I blame McDonalds. They're responsible for everything: hot coffee, fat kids, the death of extreme talk on WNEW. <P>

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[silera]

This is the most fucking stupid
thing I have ever read.

This is top ten to me.

So, in effect, Opie was so enviouse of Ron and Fez's success that he got his OWN SHOW cancelled in order to fuck them over.

GENIUS!



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[Bob Impact]

i blame that church for being there

It was asking for it, what with those short butresses it was wearing.

Huddla Huddla!
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[Bill From Yorktown]

mmgmt was mostly to blame -
1 - not moving all the talk shows to 1 station - for whatever reason they had, howard's ego or whatever - so they basically left the ratings to o+a and r+f
2 - not promoting the shows well
3 - giving up on don and mike too soon for repeats of ron and fez - sure I listened but it wasnt going to garner new listeners
4 - encouraging o+a to be more and more edgy, and then when it blew up in their face turning their back on them - this took a huge chunk of ratings away, especially when they backfilled with Lykes

put the pieces together and you see tha ta lot of bad decisions on the mgmt at Inf. set the station up to fail (intentionally or not) and it did. Wait until the day Howard quits, retires, etc etc etc and Krock's ratings will be down in 15th place asap.

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[Vee]

I think it was Fezzies fault.. I mean, this never wouldve happened back when he was at his prime. ;)

~v~

[Dr. Lumber]

I actually liked Don & Mike as well as O&A plus the boys. Maybe being 49 helped me to relate to D&M more than the typical younger O&A fan.
Let's face it, nothing on the radio will do well here unless its based in NYC. That's why they kept bringing D&M to the city for a week at a time but it didn't work. They weren't as on the edge as O&A but I liked the more real life aspect of their show.
As far as Tom Leykis. When they brought his show as a fill in after O&A got booted, he stated that WNEW's format would be changing and that his stay there was temporary. I though that it was common knowledge that the format was gonna change no matter what anybody's ratings were.

[DarkHippie]

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[SamoanWoman]

Folks, settle down. O & A were very much aware that what they were doing was pushing the envelope. As a precaution they submitted a list of Sex for Sam sites which included "church". This list was also reviewed by Jeremy and the rest of the brass. ALL OK'd THE COMPLETE LIST OF SITES. Fast forward to the event itself. The security guard repeatedly stated that he wanted the couple off the church property. This includes the sidewalk outside. Paul Mercurio, riding high from his stunt at "The Graduate", dared the guard to call the police and refused to leave even though the couple had no more to accomplish at the scene. They waited 15 mins. for the police to show up even though the guard repeatedly advised them to leave. When the police arrived, they tried not to have to arrest them, the guard was not specifying what they had done, only that they refused to leave church property when asked. The policeman finally asked why they were being asked to leave and was told. At that time he had no choice but to arrest the couple. Paul Mercurio continued to harangue the officer in an attempt to get arrested. He finally stated that he wanted to be arrested too. The officer said that if that's what he wanted he should take a cab to the station. Throughout this whole time, O & A giggled like the arrested development guys they were on the show. They even told Paul to get out of there. Whose fault is it really? In my opinion, the lawyers who ok'd the site, the brass who were supposed to keep two guys whose schtick was to run a show like a pirate station in a seventeen year old's basement in line, Paul Mercurio, who wanted to be arrested for the show (like some other comedians had been). O & A were hired for the kind of show they put on for us every day. They did everything that they personally and professionally were obligated to do to protect the company. For something to work properly, everyone must do their job. This is one instance of not everyone performing conscientiously.

Ron and Fez are victims of station owners that reacted in a cowardly manner to a publicity and power hungry man (Michael Donohue), who is now on TV talk shows making a case for his organization to have supervisory power over priests because of the child abuse crisis. The most innocent victim of this whole debacle has been Scott Ferrall. He was let go even though his ratings were starting to climb only because he shares the same agent/lawyer with O & A.

Trust me, as I sit and write this with tears running down my face, we are all very hurt and angry over losing R & F but lets keep the blame where it properly belongs. Because of a knee jerk reaction, Infiniti/Viacom killed what was going to be a terrific radio station. Disrupted so many lives over an incident that very few people remember six months later. Why don't we get angry that we are seeing more and more of that cowardly appeasement in other parts of our lives every day?

[jaxoncoherent]

I agree with C-Dub ron and Fez are no longer in NY becauseof O&A. They started this massive landslide. But they share the blame iwth management. To blame Stern is ridiculous. Why should he move stations? He has so much success on the station he is on why mess with that? Thers no point. he would get nothing outof that deal. As far as Opie riding Anthony's talent to the top. So abssolutley true! Listen to the show and all opie does is kiss anthony's ass and ell him how funny he is. Opie seemed to have some type of underlying attraction to ant if you ask me. He was like a little girl sometimes. Opie was and still is a no talent asshole

"Your revolution is over Mr. Lebowski! My advice to you is to do what your parents did! Get a job sir! The bums will always lose Mr. Lebowski, The bums will always lose!

[silera]

They started this massive landslide.

That's the only truth in your statement. Opie and Anthony started talk radio on WNEW.

Other than that, you're talking out of your ass and I think you had tacos for breakfast.



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[jaxoncoherent]

"talking out of my ass" really? so i guess Howard isn't succesful on KROCK. And it would have made sense for him to confuse listners and move stations.
And Opie being a no talent fairy IS MY OPINION! eery response you have to peoples posts involve some type of insult. Why? Is it that hard for you to accept that there are opinions out there that might differ from your own. Grow up!

"Your revolution is over Mr. Lebowski! My advice to you is to do what your parents did! Get a job sir! The bums will always lose Mr. Lebowski, The bums will always lose!

[jratt]

put the pieces together and you see tha ta lot of bad decisions on the mgmt at Inf. set the station up to fail (intentionally or not) and it did.


That says it all.....AND ALL YOU DICKS THAT JUST SIGNED UP SAYING THAT OAND A ARE TO BLAME WHERE WERE YOU 2MONTHS AGO WHEN THE SAVE R&F CAMPAIGN STARTED if i think about it, it is you fault that R&F are no longer on WNEW(sounds stupid right well it sounds just like you twats)and who are you people to start shit with the vets on this board....who the fuck are u....1 more thing your moms box looks like a rancid piece of lamb liver left out to spoil in the sun

jratt AKA johnbravo
Don't talk about unity ever again...
my ears are closed talk to the fist!!
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[silera]

so i guess Howard isn't succesful on KROCK And it would have made sense for him to confuse listners and move stations.

I don't talk about Howard because I never listen to him but it bewilders and saddens me that the act of locating a station on the radio would be confusing to anyone.

And Opie being a no talent fairy IS MY OPINION!

If you're going to form an opinion, base it on facts.

eery response you have to peoples posts involve some type of insult. Why? Is it that hard for you to accept that there are opinions out there that might differ from your own. Grow up!

I insult stupid people. I cannot tolerate them. I can respect an opinion that was formed based on facts. "He's gay and I don't like him" is a stupid thing to say.

Come back to me with some facts and a complete thought, and I'll entertain your opinion.

In the meantime shut the fuck up.


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[jaxoncoherent]

Facts?! What facts do you want? You want me to listen to every O&A show and write down what Opie says and tell you whats unfunny about it. Thats impossible I listened to the show and i didn't think opie was very funny. Thats what i think.

That's the only truth in your statement. Opie and Anthony started talk radio on WNEW.

Other than that, you're talking out of your ass and I think you had tacos for breakfast.


I mentioned Howard and you said I was "talking out of my ass". So apparently you do have an opinion on him. And yes its sad but true, people will get confused if you switch stations. Or even time slots (R&F!) and please explain to me why i am so stupid! i'd love to know what makes you so fuckin smart.
I DON'T THINK OPIE IS FUNNY = OPINION.
THERE IS SNOW ON THE GROUND = FACT.

Insults are a sure sign that your arguement is weak


"Your revolution is over Mr. Lebowski! My advice to you is to do what your parents did! Get a job sir! The bums will always lose Mr. Lebowski, The bums will always lose!

[silera]

I just read Samoan Woman's post, and I have to say it's one of the most coherent, unbiased and well thought out statements I've read over the last few days.

Bravo.



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[Knowledged_one]

so your opinion on opie being funny is based on what facts?

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[silera]

so your opinion on opie being funny is based on what facts?

I never stated Opie was funny.

I stated that the only truth was that Opie and Anthony brought talk radio to WNEW.

The rest is just opinion.

In my opinion, Opie was funny at times, especially when he talked about his family. It couldn't have only been the Anthony show because their strength lied in the chemistry between the two of them, much like Ron and Fez.



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[The Nature Boy]

Opie sucked and he always did. He was the Quivers to Anthony's Stern. Now you could call it Howard and Robin in the Mornings, but that would ring hollow since we would all know where the bread was buttered. Who ever heard the show, very early in their run, when if one guy took a day off, the other one stayed on the air. Anthony missed a show or two, and it was a joke how lame Opie was. Opie was smart and quite Machevellian, since he did a good job of hitching his star to Anthony, and doing, what was, lets face facts, a very well crafted Stern replication. Not of the show Howard's done since his divorce, but the 1986-1992 era Stern was very similar to O and A. And realize O and A fans, that's not a knock or a dig. It's a brilliant blueprint to follow, and O and A have admitted as much. But in their zeal for being "outrageous", they took it over the line, and I"m glad they are making 30 mil while their support staff and folks like Ron and Fez have their lives torn asunder.

That said, the blame is big and has many shoulders to fall on, but I start with O and A for their lack of self-editing. Al Dukes, in all honesty, for not knowing when to dump and Infinity managment for encouraging their behavior out of one side of their mouth and condeming it on the other end. But you blind Opie defenders should wake up and realize he's a big part of this problem.

Bon Jovi Fan Since Day ONE!

[silera]

Jaxon, seriously, I don't give a shit about Howard. You were talking out of your ass because you were saying that Opie was a no talent fairy.

Opie has worked in radio for over 20 yrs. Being on the radio isn't all about being funny all the time. It involves planning, and getting guests, and running a ship.

Opie was Anthony's straight man for a reason. And yes, he was an asshole but saying that he road Anthony's coat tails is like saying Fez road Ron's coattails.

It's a partnership.

Insults are fun.


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[Knowledged_one]

No insults are fun when you know people who wont chastise you for making comments about other people. the rest of us not in the know dont get that luxury

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[stickyfingers]

Opie has worked in radio for over 20 yrs. Being on the radio isn't all about being funny all the time. It involves planning, and getting guests, and running a ship.

Opie was Anthony's straight man for a reason


Exactly...This is how the entertainment world functions in terms of spoken media...in sports(the announcers) there is a straight man and a color commentary man...right now Bill Walton and Dick Vitale are the two of the most well known and recieve the most credit just like you are giving anthony but they work right along side someone else who you probably couldn't name because you do not recognize them as being all that good(as you are saying about opie), point being that many times it is this type of chemistry that is needed to be successfull...do you think if there were two anthony's the show would've be twice as good? I say it wouldn't have been half as good

why do you think football gave dennis miller a chance, i know he stunk but the idea was to get a color man in there. Same thing applies to many tandems that you'll hear on the radio...its not true for all duos but that was the case with O and A....i enjoyed his antics(opinion)


What was the topic again?





the only thing a period stops is a sentence

[silera]

No insults are fun when you know people who wont chastise you for making comments about other people. the rest of us not in the know dont get that luxury

You know what, I'm sick of these kinds of statements.

Say what you want, but I don't tippy toe around people just to make them feel good about themselves.

Life isn't nice all the time.

Insults are just words and most of the time they're also amusing.

Everyone should just stop being whiney fucks around here. Call me a cunt, I'm ok with that. It's not going to make me cry or go running to a mod to lock a thread.



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[zha zha]

O and A were hilarious but a lot more mean spirited than R and F. The four were always supportive of each other. Howard is the real douche. He's so insecure and threatened by new talent that he sabotaged his own companies other radio station. Now he's back on top, after O and A are not around to make him nervous anymore. O and A are still helping R and F. I catch my stream to listen to R and F in DC the last couple of nights from S.U. courtesy of opieandanthony.net

wabbit

[The Vig]

You con not blame one show for the demise of another. Management made the calls no one else. The ratings for the station on a whole were in the crapper - thats because the guys that ran the show did not have the stomach to stand behind the programs they aired. After pulling O & A off and Ferall...everyone knew it was only a matter of time R&F woudl go too. Not because that didnt have ratings, not beacuse of lack of action on the fans side, and not because of IRAQ. Management did not act quickly enough to put on some good support programming that complimented their highest rated show. The only reason I had to tune into WNEW was R&F. But you can not keep replying them miday's and then have them on at nites..its called burnout. I pray that station will fail hugely now, and I pray and hope for our two great americans to come back to us here in NYC...plus it would be nice to have O&A back..or atleast Anthony . I was never a big fan of Opie - he was just an egomanic that really needed some speech lessons.
OK let the bashing of my post begin :)

[jratt]

silera you are a cunt but being a hetro male i love cunt....what you are saying i agree with 100% but i just cant get the thoughts on to paper like you can fuch these fucks and keep up the good fight...I would love to see the fact in all these worthless comments from these worthless assholes that are riding the coattails of R&F's demise in ny

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[zha zha]

I'm new to posting and I don't like to bash anybody so no worries. I don't think it wouldv'e been realistic for Howard to leave KROCK. Why should he, as someone said, there is nothing in that move for him. But he is very powerful in radio, maybe more powerful than management. If he chose to support another comedy/talk program getting a slot at his station everyone would benefit. The listeners at KROCK who only listen to Howard and then turn off their radios would tune in again to hear O and A or R and F or both, Krock's ratings would go sky high in their other time slots and when Howard leaves the airwaves in a couple of years as he has promised to do there would be two sucessful talk formats to continue on and keep getting ratings. It seems so simple. Is anybody listening at KROCK when Howard's show goes off. Howard has the power to make a place R and F at least, but I don't think he'll do it because he's too threatened. I don't understand why, he just doesn't have the confidence after all the success he's had to have any kind of competition. But it wouldn't really be any competition, in a different time slot. I say we email Howard directly and soothe his fluffy ego, tell him he's the king of all media and tell him he can also be a hero by taking a new duo under his wing and fostering their careers at KROCK. It'll probably never happen but a girl can dream can't she.

wabbit

[silera]

I kind of sort of was with you until the very end on that one.

Then you lost me and I don't understand and my head hurts too.

:(


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[zha zha]

which part hurt your head?

wabbit

[zha zha]

I didn't really mean Howie is the king of anything. Just phony stroking of the big bird ego might help. Anything to get R & F back on the air in NY. They are a NY show, there humor is NY humor. There really is no other place for them to be. I left work today and put on my radio without thinking because it's such a habit to tune them in whenever I'm near a radio. I want my R & F. This is so wrong.

wabbit

[silera]

It wasn't you actually, your post crept in there magically. It was ...I would love to see the fact in all these worthless comments from these worthless assholes that are riding the coattails of R&F's demise in ny

Me no comprende.




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[zha zha]

yeah i don't get that one either, actually my head is starting to hurt now. Seems despairing listeners are turning on each other in their grief and madness. What's next, eating our own young? Everybody sign the petition and get at least 20 others to sign and maybe we can turn this thing around. Shake it up!!!!!!!!

wabbit

[hoof and mouth]

Ruth buzzy had them all fired. thanks to that talentless opie "whatever his name was" loser bitch. thats what i heard on CNN lastnight.

[Rizzo]

The Sex for Sam stunt got O&A fired. It was their own doing, and their own fault. They pushed too far, and they got canned. R&F started getting a bigger following because of the O&A lead in and cross promotion between the 2 shows. O&A was the highest rated show on the station. When they left, the rest of the ship began to sink. They were the showcase show on 102.7 for which other shows benefited from.

p.s. I liked O&A, but liked R&F better.

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[zha zha]

Yeah I know

wabbit

[Partisan]

Ironically, it seems that the ONLY people trashing O&A are the ones who have between 0-10 posts... makes me think that mebbe they should get the COCK out of their mouths, the vibrators outta their eye sockets, and the whiffleball bats outta their rectums, and use that semen-filled sponge they have called a "BRAIN".

A.F.R.O. 4EVA!

[NewYorkDragons80]

Without O&A (and MOSTLY
Opie) Ron and Fez wouldn't have
jobs in NYC to begin with.
LMAO! Anthony's really getting the short end of the stick in this thread, isn't he?

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[Johnny4]

Silera, I love the fact that you came out and admitted Opie was an asshole.Does anyone else remeber Opie's post St. Pat's backpedaling, These are actual statements made by radio exec Opie.
1. In Sex for Sam, contestants were told behind closed doors to simulate sex(wink, wink, nudge, nudge)
2. Contestants and judges had churches on the list but were told not to go in there(hardyharhar).
3. Remember his GENUINE concern for the arrested listeners? He sounded like that California husband diligigently LOOKING for his missing pregnant wife.
Silera, you are one funny broad, it is O.K if we agree to disagree. Personally I think Ron, Fez and Anthony would be a great show next year.

I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything, I wasn't there and if I was there I was asleep.

[jaxoncoherent]

That says it all.....AND ALL YOU DICKS THAT JUST SIGNED UP SAYING THAT OAND A ARE TO BLAME WHERE WERE YOU 2MONTHS AGO WHEN THE SAVE R&F CAMPAIGN STARTED if i think about it, it is you fault that R&F are no longer on WNEW(sounds stupid right well it sounds just like you twats)and who are you people to start shit with the vets on this board....who the fuck are u.


and you signed up when?
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[Death Metal Moe]

I think we've moved away from the REAL point of this post.

Mad Tom is an ill informed Douche Bag.

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I don't tend to agree with your logic, but you are entitled to your own opinion, though a bit inaccurate.

[Reiko Hidama]

As it was said at when O&A were first cut off, it was Al Dhukes fault for being at the dump button and not dumping out on that whole part. I mean come on.

"I would cut off your head, dwarf, if it stood but a little higher from the ground"

[synthfiend]

As it was said at when O&A were first cut off, it was Al Dhukes fault for being at the dump button and not dumping out on that whole part. I mean come on.
The stupid posts just keep on coming. It's so EASY to place blame on the people we don't like. The last person on the list be blamed is Al because he was damned if he did and he's damned because he didn't. If Al dumped out and he'd have been subjected to Opie's wrath for dumping out of the show . Because he didn't it's his supposedly his fault the show's off the air. Jeez man talk about a guy who can't win for shit. Anyway as far as Opie being almost talentless: Before they had the ruling that if either Opie or Anthony were sick or had some kind of emergency a best of would be run I remember some pretty good shows with Rick filling in the Opie spot just fine. As far as Opie being an asshole: We all knew that. People flocked to his being an asshole the same way people flocked to Howard being an asshole. It's not exactly a talent to be a major dick. But as for who's fault it REALLY is? Management. There were 2 previous "Sex for Sam's" if it was such an abomination management would have stopped after one instead of caving when an actual problem occured. That's fact. And Ron and Fez are gone because there's just no place for genuinely funny radio in New York anymore. So we who actually have a sense of self and a mind to think and decide for ourselves, in the end, have no real place talking about New York Radio. It has nothing to do with us anymore. The only thing that there's room for in New York is the same 8 songs being force fed to the masses. Lap it up boys!

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