why are chicks so judgemental?

[NickyL0885]

OK. i dont get it. i go to high school,11th grade, i weigh 350 and i'm a nice guy. every time a girl finds out i like them they say "ew". i'm sure this has happened to everyone in life, fat or not fat,but i dont understand why girls got ot be like that.i want a g/f but at this rate i ain't getting one.out of all my friends i'm the only one who has never had a girl or let alone got any.who knows. maybe i got to be a thin guy who drinks and does drugs but i dont do any of that crap.if someone can help me or something reply to this.

[Reephdweller]

Women by and large are more attracted to the thin guy, because they convey something to that says that they have more self control. By being overweight you give off a signal that you lack self control.

In addition, LOOKS can be everything to lots of teenagers in general. You may want to look in the mirror and ask yourself, if you know a girl who was your size would you want her?

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[CruelCircus]

Yeah, your weight is an issue, no doubt.
But, honestly, the truth of the matter is, what you're experiencing in 11th grade, you will be experiencing for the rest of your dating life.
For the most part, women look down on "the nice guy." It's just a fact. Women who date, esp. at your age, are very interested in what their friends think and how others view their boyfriends. If they percieve that they will be mocked, they will toss you aside very quickly, and even insult you on the way out to solidify that they are "cool." They try and portray men as shallow, but really it's all the same.

I wish you the best.

Mace

[DreamWeaver]

High school girls are stuck up bitches. I'm sorry, thats just the way it is.

i got to be a thin guy who drinks and does drugs
you should give that a shot.

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Women by and large are more attracted to the thin guy,


I should be so lucky.

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Nice to see that after 8 years of being out of high school, teen girls are still vicious and stupid. <P>
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[stickyfingers]

maybe you should start wearing big football jerseys and rapping and calling yourself 'big' something...it works for other large dudes

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[Vee]

Stickyfingers has it right there, budday. You're 350? You're not going to drop down to 175 anytime soon, so carry that weight as if you mean it. Pretend its muscle. And rough up the guys that are smaller than you. On second thought, skip the latter part. A lot of big guys are successful with the ladies if they present themselves as someone who can take care of her. But what do I know? I'm a thin single guy.

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[darknoth]

I know this is going to sound like some sort of Dr. Phil nonsense...you have to have self confidence in yourself. That and don't ignore the girls YOU wouldn't think of going out with. I was in the same predicament and missed the girls that were right under my nose. <P>

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[WhackBagKid]

baker?

you should all take a ride on the funny train!!!

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[FMJeff]

I don't wanna rock the boat but I feel obligated to break this controversial news to you my friend...CHICKS DON'T LIKE FAT GUYS UNLESS THEY ARE FAT THEMSELVES. Your body is a reflection of you. If you let it go, it sends a message to women you might be potentially interested in...and that message is EW. There's also a practical reason for girls to avoid fat guys...sex. Think of how uncomfortable you would feel with a 300 pound woman on top of you. It's not sexy. Fat is not sexy.

You have two options:

1) Lose it.
2) Make a shitload of money.

Choice is yours. #1 is easier.

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[CreepyGyrl]

Okay, first of all, yer in high school, what do you expect? High school is the epidome of judgementalness(is that word?) Think about it, how many guys do you see dating a 350 pound girl in high school? So it isn't just the girls.

Now outside of high school, things change some what, and as girls become woman, they kinda take down the judgemental attitude a knotch.

BUT, dude.... take off a few pounds, if not for a possibility of getting laid, then for your health.

Personally, seeing as though I am 95 pounds, I can honestly say I would not date you. But that doesn't make me shallow of judgemental, just fearful of being crushed...



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[Bama]

I weight three bills and really never had a problem with women. I'm pretty tall though, maybe I "carry it well."

Chicks dig confidence and also a guy who will disrespect them and treat them like dirt.

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[Reephdweller]

Chicks dig confidence and also a guy who will disrespect them and treat them like dirt.


Just look at Tom Leykis, this is his religion.

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[DarkHippie]

Nice to see that after 8 years of being out of high school, teen girls are still vicious and stupid.
I <3 Peachy!!

But anyway, I'm a big guy, but I used to be a very big guy (close to 3 bills). When I was your age I got nada. girls at that age are superficial. luckily they grow out of it (thank god!). I can't promise you anything, but I can promise you that the more you let it bother you, the less attractive you become. Just be friendly, be yourself, and don't worry about getting poon. Half the time, poon is more trouble than its worth.

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[Vlad Caesar]

As much as many of you didn't like Leykis (to say the least), when it came to addressing this very question he hit the nail on the head. It don't matter if it's high school or the "real world", many of your typical hot chicks are pretty predictable. Your best bet is to start with attitude. You gotta work on it too, you'll need to pull it off naturally. If it sounds fake, you're just a fat loser to them (or "cute"...but that's no compliment).

Plus, I know it's obvious, but hit the gym. Get a part time job and start hitting the weights and do some cardio (though make sure you can pay monthly, fuck contracts). Doing that virtually everyday will get your self-esteem up and you will be able to pull off that attitude and start to look better in the process. In the end you'll carry yourself well and chicks will notice that...you may not go out with 'em right away, but you'll be able to become friends with them - which is a start.

I speak from experience.

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[Vlad Caesar]

What would you tell this kid then? Seriously. A lot of what everybody else has told this kid has been brought up by Leykis (and that is because it's flat-out common sense). I'm not defending him, but most of us are saying the same common sense shit that Leykis has brought up. He isn't original, but from a common sense standpoint, I'd have to say that's something he does have.

Again, what legit advice would you give this 350 lb. nice guy that the chicks he digs scoff at?

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[DarkHippie]

Your best bet is to start with attitude. You gotta work on it too, you'll need to pull it off naturally. If it sounds fake, you're just a fat loser to them
Nothing says sexy like wearing a mask.

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[stickyfingers]

move to a place where the attitude is "the bigger the better"

i.e. Italy or countries that enjoy sumo(those guys get all the chicks)

I would like to hear your thoughts on the girls from your high school and see which ones you would most like to bump naughties with, it is my guess that number one would not be 'Large Marge' not that theres anything wrong with that but of course you are going to be attracted the nicer looking ones....its a two way street

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[Vlad Caesar]

move to a place where the attitude is "the bigger the better"

Or you can rap (although good luck if you're white)...or try football. Become the big offensive lineman or be a badass defensiveman like Warren Sapp.

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[silera]

I'm not defending him, but most of us are saying the same common sense shit that Leykis has brought up. He isn't original, but from a common sense standpoint, I'd have to say that's something he does have.

Please tell me you're kidding.

Leykis's "sense" is based on a warped view of women and tailored to make people think that he's using logic when if fact it is faulty.

He says he knows women because he's been divorced four times, then admits that he does not seek a woman to be compatible with him but only because she is attractive and he can afford her.

If you only surround yourself with money grubbing whores that would lower themselves to being with a scum jerk off like you, how can you pretend that you know anything about real women?

If he knew so much, he's still be married instead of convincing himself and the world that he's against marriage.

This kid should either lose weight or date fat chicks with low self esteem. Also, being yourself and giving up on stupid "rules" or "game" or any other game plan is the only way to find someone that's going to be with you regardless of appearance.



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[Vlad Caesar]

Leykis's "sense" is based on a warped view of women and tailored to make people think that he's using logic when if fact it is faulty.

"Common sense" in a way that he uses what is out there. Common sense based on the truth that the majority of the world revolves around a sad fact: looks are everything (at least at first) and when looks fail - money talks. I don't even buy that, but sadly it is true for the most part. It's what gets somebody's attention. It can be a big factor to whether or not you are what somebody may want to be with. It can determine if you'll be able to get 10 seconds worth of somebody's time or 10 minutes worth.

Big guys who want beautiful girls have to have something worth catching the eye of the girl (vice-versa in some cases). It may not be 100% true, but it's a pretty high percentage.

This kid should either lose weight or date fat chicks with low self esteem. Also, being yourself and giving up on stupid "rules" or "game" or any other game plan is the only way to find someone that's going to be with you regardless of appearance.

We see eye to eye here. But first thing's first: in order to do that, the kid must learn to throw away any dream he has of landing a great looking chick (which will leave his mind open to whatever comes his way). Obviously that is a dream he has...otherwise he probably wouldn't be asking this question. If he would just take what he can get (and I'm sure there must be somebody in his grade willing to go with him), he'll be well off. Actually, he'll probably be pretty happy taking what he can get rather than chasing after a dream.

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This message was edited by Vlad Caesar on 1-29-03 @ 4:01 PM

[NickyL0885]

well the reason y i dont wanna date fat chicks is because that is wat everyone says is the only girl i can get.i want to prove them wrong.i would join football but i'd pass out from practice.i'm more of a baseball guy but like i said 350 lbs.and i play 2nd base.yrust me i've tried diets and shit,went to gyms,watched wat i ate but i can't hold on.i need a job,which would help me cause i wouldn't be around my house so much so i can raid the frig.i've tried not listening to wat people think but it eventually gets on my nerves.my ideal girl doesn't have to be britney spears skinny. but u know, maybe average weight.maybe i should try one of those dating sites?.i know i sound like i want attention but i'm at a point where i think i might just pass out and die in my sleep.i'm asking u all for advice because u all seem like the best people to ask.doctors suck.

[Vlad Caesar]

well the reason y i dont wanna date fat chicks is because that is wat everyone says is the only girl i can get.i want to prove them wrong

Not a good reason. It only makes you as bad as those who critisize you.

yrust me i've tried diets and shit,went to gyms,watched wat i ate but i can't hold on.i need a job,which would help me cause i wouldn't be around my house so much so i can raid the frig.i've tried not listening to wat people think but it eventually gets on my nerves.

Do it all for yourself. It must be about you and only you. You don't just do a diet, you don't just do a workout. You live your diet, you live your workout. When it comes to that stuff, it's about a lifestyle change and an attitude change...not just about changing a habit. If you need to motivate yourself to make it successful by using "getting a hot chick" or "proving others wrong" or "shutting people up" then use those...but make sure you also remember that it's only going to work as long as you make it work. Nobody's going to hold your hand or watch you 24/7. You got to take responsibility for <B>your</B> actions, for <U>your</U>self. When you get bored and think "I'm hungry" or "I'm bored, time to see what's in the fridge", just turn that into "time to get a bottle of water and run for a few minutes."

Change your lifestyle and your attitude and be willing to postpone your dreams of having a hot chick until after you've reached that goal...because the feeling of accomplishment you get after successfully reaching a big goal such as weight loss is much greater than proving to people that you can get an "average weight" chick.

Lastly, if you're not going to lose weight and change your lifestyle and attitude for the better...then throw away your dreams of having an "average weight" girl just to prove your buddies wrong. You can't expect to reach a goal without first making a sacrifice. It's not like you'll miss your fat when it's gone.

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[DarkHippie]

well the reason y i dont wanna date fat chicks is because that is wat everyone says is the only girl i can get. i want to prove them wrong
If you only want to date someone to prove other people wrong, then you are as shallow as the girls who reject you, and have no right dating anyone. Re-think who you are and your priorities, and maybe you'll have more luck.

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[Bama]

Come on! This kid should never settle for a girl he's not attracted to.

Just be confident. Talk to a hot chick. Ask her to go out or something. Act like a man.

NEVER talk about any of your flaws to her in anyway. NEVER compliment her.

One of my roommates in college looked like a pack of chewed up bubble gum and brought home phenomenal looking chicks. He just acted like he thought he was a real catch. Maybe he really believed it.



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[stickyfingers]

NEVER talk about any of your flaws to her in anyway. NEVER compliment her


sounds just like a jackass 101 comment

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[nellie]

listen, before you even think about dating you should think about yourself and how you can improve how you think/feel about yourself. you said diet and exercise hasn't help, how long did you try it for? it's not going to happen in a day or even a month, but a couple of years. have you tried weight watcher or la weightloss, i tried weight watchers and i lost 30lbs while i was on it, and i know some one that lost about 20 pounds on laweightloss.

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[NickyL0885]

well yes i have tried waight watchers,herbolife,slim fast, and others.only succesfull diet was when i lost 13 lbs in a week.since i weigh 350 and need to be 150-180 i lose weight fast.

[Coco]

To tell you the truth, I never was attracted to very thin guys. I once dated a guy who was 6'2 and weighed about 220. He was the epitome of "the gentle giant". What a really nice man!

Seriously, though, you should definitely concentrate on losing the weight, if not for anything, but for your health.

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[satan-2]

let me ask you something coco. was he "gifted" if you know what i mean? if he was, maybe that's why you stayed with him. if no to that question, then did he have money? the few hot chicks that i know go after money men.


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[satan-2]

by the NickyL0885. drink a lot of water. if you feel hungry, drink a lot of water. this keeps you from raiding the fridge. it also helps you loose weight.

i'm not a gym rat but i do read a lot of workout magazines. one more thing eat food, every 2-3 hours, in small quantities. this also helps you lose wieght. good luck


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[Vlad Caesar]

well yes i have tried waight watchers,herbolife,slim fast, and others.only succesfull diet was when i lost 13 lbs in a week.since i weigh 350 and need to be 150-180 i lose weight fast.

Lose the thought of losing weight fast: it will not happen. FACT: fast weight loss=fast weight gain. Plain and simple.

Ask yourself these...
#1- how are you built? I'm not asking if you're big boned, but are you built like a bodybuilder or a wrestler? Or are you built like a twig? If you are built like a wrestler (such as I am) chances are you will be able to burn fat fast, by turning it into muscle. If you're built like a twig, you'll probably end up benefitting most from cardio...but weights always help. In either case, weights always help to show improvement quickly, but you must team up with cardio and and a 1000-3000 calorie/day diet (and <B>A LOT</B> - if not only - water) to get the most you can out of it.
#2- Why are you doing this? As I've said before, <B>you must do it for yourself.</B> Use whatever you must to motivate you, but in the end <U>you</U> have to be the main focus of your weight loss.
#3- Can you give yourself the proper amount of time and dedication to this project? You want to get to 180lbs? That's a lot of weight and you will need a lot of time.
#4- Is your goal realistic? Maybe you should start off slow, maybe try to get to just 300lbs. That way you'll be able reach reasonable goals and lower your chances of suffering disappointment (which'll most likely lead you to a depression that'll cause you to gain more weight and fail miserably).

Again, you will not lose that much weight without making sure that your goals are realistic. You may be able to lose 170-200lbs, but you're smartest bet is to take it one step/one goal at a time.

Take this into account: it may take up to two years to lose 180lbs, and although you may not have a girlfriend until after high school, with the weight gone and your attitude changed you should have no problem finding a girl by the time you turn 20. Look to the future and what it can hold.

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[FiveB247]

I never have problems picking up young HS chicks ...now a days ...but i'm 25...hehe

[stickyfingers]

only succesfull diet was when i lost 13 lbs in a week


that was not a 'successful diet'....here's a quick lesson on dieting (i lost 30 lbs in 3 months)

a good diet is one in which you lose 2-3 lbs a week...how to do this...

1)it starts with eating and watching calories and fat intake(this part you already knew) but...one pound is equal to 3500 calories...the average man is expected to take in about 2000 calories a day...well the diet should cut that number from 2000 to 1400-1500...thats 500 calories a day which adds up to one pound a week(3500 calories)...(but you said 2-3 lbs)...
3) excercise...if you can somehow manage to exercise enough to sweat off 500 calories a day, which is a pretty good amount, you will lose the 2-3 lbs a week...nobody said it was going to be easy...cardio is the best for shedding calories...joining a gym is intimidating for some people but those eliptical machines work wonders and anyone can do it without having to worry about how you look doing it

Foods that I ate for the whole summer....chicken(can be prepared many ways to avoid redundancy, tuna(same applies), brown rice...any kind of sandwich on rye bread..snacks-popcorn...drink water...an average can of soda or juice will have around 100 calories(drink one glass of water a day instead of something else and you can skip a day of excercise

the thing i found the most difficult was sticking to it obviously but as far as foods go...avoiding cheese, chocolate, and gravy(or someother form of thick topping

BOTTOM LINE: WORKED FOR ME AND NOW I ENJOY A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE AND A GOOD JOB...OH AND A REALLY GOOD LOOKING GIRL






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[TheBrain007]

You need to lose some weight... it is just plain not attractive to a woman. Unfortunately, looks DO matter somewhat. It's not everything, but there has to be an attraction. There is always a way to lose weight. It is an epidemic in this country alone... there are reasons for that, and they can be avoided if you just work at it. <P>

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You know, sex burns a LOT of calories. Why dont you just ask your girlfriend to.... Ooooooh... Sorry....




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[grlNIN]

Listen the fatc of the matter is like DarkHippie and Nellie said you are not ready to date yet if you alterior motive is to "prove everyone wrong"
How the fuck would you like it if some amazingly hot-popular chick started dated you but only did it on a bet?....youd feel like shit right? Well if you date someone who is attractive only to show people that you can get an attractive chick(which at this point i am sorry but you dont seem to have anything going for you so dont count on it)how do you think that girl is going to feel????No matter how attractive a person is they have feelings just like you and me and everyone else in the world.

Work on your own self esteem first bc until you are comfortable/happy with yourself you wont be with anybody else.

Sorry if this post was mean but jesus christ as soon as i read his second post i wish i went to HS with him just so i could reject his obnoxious ass

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[Vee]

How the fuck would you like it if some amazingly hot-popular chick started dated you but only did it on a bet?....youd feel like shit right?
Duuuude... I'd send the person who bet her double what they lost on that bet with a thank you note!

Hehehe.. Seriously though, sorry to blow your cover here bud, but your saying "just to prove them wrong" is pure BS. It was just your way of getting around being hypocritical about dating people who arent the most attractive. But that dont make you a bad person. Makes you normal. Most people want someone they're atracted to, whether they're attractive themselves or not. You just gotta get past that and be realistic. Something about you needs to be attractive in order to attract someone to you.
I think I sound mean. I'm not though. Just realistic. Everyone is judgemental. We have to be! How else would we make our decisions if not by "judging" the information we have?

[Rev]

maybe i got to be a thin guy who drinks and does drugs but i dont do any of that crap
First off, dont cop out with that routine. I drink, and have done drugs in the past. None of which has ever landed me a chick. I also dont consider myself any cooler for doing so.

Second, the nice guy cop out is another one i hear all too often.
It's such a crock of shit.

Frankly, if your overweight, or ugly for that matter, nice or not, you aint gettin any!

Face it big boy, your fat.

and on a sidenote...

high school girls may be bitches, but they still taste the same! ;)

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Perhaps they don't like being called "chicks."

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[guy44687843]

i have the anserw. three words, WOMEN ARE WHORES. they do not care about emotion or intelligence. To Quote Mr. Brown "Its all about a girl who wants a guy with a big dick" I can make girls at my college SQUEL with laguhter, i can comfort them about anything, but thats not good enongh see, THAT DOES NOT MATTER. women nowadays wait some idiot who either will jump off the roof of a building, or some rich as*hole. ALL THAT MATTERS ARE LOOKS AND MONEY. thats the truth, like or not buddy. so either learn, or be another hapless fool. your choice

This message was edited by guy44687843 on 2-13-03 @ 8:56 PM

[canofsoup15]

Just lose some weight, plain and simple, drop 150 and youll be fine. Girls are twats, especially in school. Drugs and alcohol get you nowhere except prison. Gilrs dont want nice guys, they want so called "bad boys" but the type that are NICE(dont ask me i have no clue). And leykis isnt intelligent whatsoever.

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Shit, if it's going to be that kind of a party
I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes

[Steels]

Cause they set the barometer with........$teel$

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[JiZ]

Everyone is judgemental. If your looking for that one girl to just chill with in your house, than theres no problem. But if you are looking for that girl that you're gonna be seen with, you'd be judemental too.



P.S. Thanks for the inner circle under my name..:)

[SoLost22]

Your health should be your prime concern, but other than that, just be confident in yourself if you don't want a fat chick, don't try for one. Set goals and work to acheive them whether your goal be to loose weight or get a hot chick; just work for it.

"God looks after drunks, fools, and the United States."

[stickyfingers]

why do good girls like bad guys
knowin' that bad guys tell mad lies
-dmx


Its so funny to see how we men act around a good looking girl rather than a not so attractive one....We think anything a good looking girl says is funny. An ugly girl could say that exact same thing but we would disregard it. Ain't life great.

"lemme tell ya sumpin" -CW

[LilLibra]

Going back to the original topic Nicky, you have to understand that just like guys, girls can be very cruel. It probably has nothing to do with who you are. Appearance is such a big deal to teenagers and almost all of them expect to look like what they see in magazines or on MTV. Anyone not looking that way will automatically be outcasted.

The question you have to ask yourself is, are *you* happy with the way you look? Because if you are then you don't have to change anything about yourself. Its unhealthy to be 350 unless you're a football player. (height is a factor also.) If you're not, try to bring your weight down.

And as for the girls, well, that's a part of growing up. We've all dealt with assholes (male and female). You want to find a girl who isn't shallow and from the looks of it, that might not happen anytime soon- or at least while you're in high school. You might want to find a different circle of friends who aren't so hung up on appearance.

That's about all I can say since I don't know you but good luck anyway.

Steph

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