What are teacher's really motivation behind teaching?

[TomPoo]

Nice try Horde King, but we all know the truth... teachers are bitter, manipulative bastards that enjoy controlling the fate of young children, teens and young adults.

Maybe at one time there intensions were good, and sure there is a minority of teachers still trying to have a postive influence in childrens lives, but the majority is not.

Most season veterans have become bitter and twisted and enjoy watching us suffer over the stress of getting a "good grade"

They enjoy looking at a cocky 17 year old with his whole future in front of him and with one slash of there pen destroy all there hopes and dreams.

Most have given up on the youth of America, but because they have tenure and security in there jobs, they won't leave. Instead they sit back and take the one small once of satisfaction there job still gives them... torturing the students.

Sunndoogy... Your right, they have alterior motives... they get off on watching a kid who's future potential has no limits; STRESS over if he will get an "A"... they enjoy watching the kid who slacks off BEG for a "D" so they can graduate... they enjoy sending you to Summer school and ruining what was suppose to be "YOUR" summer of relaxation and fun...

...that is why I am glad I am done with school, I beat the system, and I thank God every day that I never have to take another class again.

And For all of you going to college in the fall... IT ONLY GETS WORSE!!!! Now you will have "professors" who have alot of degrees that say they are smarter than you, and enjoy making you feel stupid in front of your 30-100 classmates.

But if you are lucky you will get the few teachers who are cool, that actually know how to teach instead of showing off there "intellectual muscles"

90% of the teachers I had, I wanted to scream I KNOW YOUR SMART!!!!! WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE SOMETHING TO A KID WHO JUST WANTS TO GET OUT OF HERE AND GO DRINK!!!!!! ARE YOU THAT INSECURE WITH YOUR ABILITY TO TEACH!?!?!?!? AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!

School Sucks... I was never a good student, I had a "B" average and I am proud of that.. and I thank only my self and the few kids I use to cheat with.

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[sunndoggy8]

Is it in fact a hope to help kids learn and help them gain knowledge, or is it more a power thing, in that most teachers are people who are power hungry and enjoy controlling and having that control over young students?

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[HordeKing1]

SUNNY - Teaching - The pay is abysmal, the profession not well respected, the benefits sub-par and the risk of physical injury real.

Given this, most teachers go into the field motivated by a sincere desire to teach kids and to help them get ahead in life.

Certainly there are exceptions. But by and large the desire to teach is noble.

The profession is sullied because the pay sucks. To attract a better class (pun intended) of teachers, the pay has to be significantly raised. Many people who would make excellent teachers simply will not do so becasue a pay cap of about $50,000 is pitiful and just does not pay the bills.

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[HordeKing1]

TOM POO - It's unfortunate that you had such a bad educational experience.

I've found that most teachers are as I described them not as you did.

As a general rule, I've found that undergraduate teachers are superior to grade school teachers and graduate teachers best of all. Of course there are excellent grade school teachers as well, who can make a tremendous difference in a young kid's life.

The more advanced your education the more exciting, interesting and informative your teachers will be. In grad school, there is often a mentor relationship that develops between student and teacher, particularly if the professor happens to be your doctoral advisor. LOL.

You mention that professors "enjoy watching the kid who slacks off BEG for a "D" so they can graduate."

If kids are slacking off and fucking around, they deserve the grade they get, including an F. It amazed me the last few semesters how people complain when they get a 40 on a midterm and a 50 on the final and rarely show up and flunk the course. They deserve to fail. Those who do the work do well.

As far as cheating; when I catch a kid teaching (as one did in a course I took last semester) I flunk his sorry ass.

I loved school the first time around about 20 (or so) years ago. It's even better the second time around. It's fun having professors who are younger than you. It's fun walking into a class knowing you can teach it, and ending up a teacher's aide. It's fun telling professors to cut the bullshit and read some recent research. I'm not shy. I've done all of the above and more. The more you put into your education the more you'll get from it.

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[The Blowhard]

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[Pootertoot]

I capped my teach for disrespectin my peeps yo

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[adolescentmasturbator]

Yo you think you my master just because you got a masters.

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[Koala]

Teachers are hard working people who get paid crap. It's probably one of the harder jobs...kids don't want to learn, parents don't even care and the pay STINKS. Without teachers there would be no future.
Sorry Tompoo that you had such a bad experience with teachers.

But lets face it, it's not the teachers fault when a student fails IT"S THE KIDS FAULT!!!!!

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[Koala]

Also forgot to add how smart I think the hordeking is.

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[HordeKing1]

KOALA - What can I say, except to compliment you on your remarkable perception...

...and cuddliness

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[sunndoggy8]

I disagree Koala. You can't just generalize that all kids are at fault for their failure in school. There are numerous teachers that I have encountered in classes up through college that have been directly responsible for students failing.

For example, a friend of mine, who had always done horribly in writing papers, came to me for help. I spent a week helping him with a paper, proofreading and giving him ideas on what to improve on, and in the end, it was a fantastic paper. I can say that because I've written about a million of them in the past, and minor in English. But of course, when he handed the paper in, the teacher failed him, because she simply didn't like him, and believed that anything he wrote wasn't any good. Eventually, through a bunch of meetings with her and the dean of the school, he was allowed to pass the class, and she was actually let go for the way she treated him.

This is not an isoloted incident either. I know many would say that not all teachers are like this, that there are helpful ones, but there are just as many harmful ones as well. I can give you so many examples of teachers who enjoyed having power over children, who would chastise a 2nd grader for sneezing when she was teaching a lesson, or insult a student for getting the wrong answer in front of the entire class, or just generally be degrading and harmful to a child for no reason at all.

Sure there are teachers that are helpful and caring and wonderful people. But they by far are not in the majority. And to address college professors, most are not interested whatsoever in helping a student learn. Many are only teaching in order to do research at the university they teach at, and could care less about a student's chances at passing the class...they're more interested in just getting their lesson done and overwith.

Of course students aren't innocent in failing and not wanting to learn, but teachers aren't holy ambassadors of knowledge that can do no wrong. Their job is to TEACH, and if they don't do so, then they're not doing their job. Sure there are numerous other factors, parents, funding, etc...but a teacher has a tremendous amount of influence upon a child, and to me, it seems like there are more bad ones than good.



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This message was edited by sunndoggy8 on 7-26-01 @ 2:12 AM

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teachers just want to get laid. is that so wrong?

[Koala]

Sunnydoggy8, I agree that not ALL teachers are great...but I disagree that MOST are bad. I've come across all kinds of teachers in my many years as a student and parent. Some were great and some were terrible. Lets face it, in all jobs their are people who are very good and others who stink. Hopefully the rotten ones will get weeded out, (though I doubt it).

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