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fluffernutter
02-01-2003, 07:11 PM
This here is something that I have been pondering posting for some time. I am not trying to make light of the situation just want to get a nice discussion rolling.

The topic of racism.

Not just racism per se but, If we were blind and had no sense of sight whatsoever and never knew there was skin color, would there still be racism in our society?

This came to me a month or so ago when I was listening to Eddie Trunk's show on a Friday night. Eddie was doing his feedback segment and a regular caller, Dave from Irvington called in and had was talking with Eddie about the general love or heavy metal and how the music plays such a part in his life. Eddie then mentioned the fact that not only was Dave blind but he was also black and that got me thinking about the stereotypes that we in society sub-consciously have for one another and how it affects out day to day lives. My stereotype first hand is that heavy metal is predominantly white. Whereas I say rap or even blues and you think black. I mean why is there such a shock there when a group breaks the color barrier? If we could not see, would there be a color barrier.

Now I suck at writing and am struggling with some ideas here but I got talking with 8-Track Reed tonight and it struck up a nice little conversation on the matter. Like if we never had sight, if that sense was just not there and back in the 60's when Rosa Parks walked onto that bus, would she have been discriminated against because of how she sounded? Would racism in our society today, even stereotypes concerning race be based on how we sound or smell more than what we look like. A first impulse is when you see something that looks odd, you laugh or point or heckle. If that sense was not there, would there be a basis for discrimination then?

I am gonna stop here and come back on it tomorrow after some sleep. Just something I wanted to roll off here. Hopefully I got my thoughts across nicely. I am interested to see how this pans out in conversation.

Also feel free to rip me if I have somewhere misspoken on anything.



I really hope to get some intelligent response to this and I trust the racism will be non-existent.

Thanks Fuzzybutt for the go ahead here.

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This message was edited by fluffernutter on 2-2-03 @ 1:51 AM

Sheeplovr
02-01-2003, 07:20 PM
Not just racism per se but, If we were blind and had no sense of sight whatsoever and never knew there was skin color, would there still be racism in our society <P>
No cause hate isnt based by skin color its just whats used ot pick on Culters are what other people hate <P>

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ChickenHawk
02-01-2003, 07:27 PM
Yes, absolutely. Then people would just start prejudging each other based on the sound of their voice or how they smell.

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kc7586
02-01-2003, 07:36 PM
Yes, absolutely. Then people would just start prejudging each other based on the sound of their voice or how they smell.

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TheMojoPin
02-01-2003, 07:37 PM
Hawk's right, unfortunately. Some people are just too determined to keep themselves from people they view as "different" from themselves.

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FUNKMAN
02-01-2003, 07:47 PM
no, because you can always smell the Italian ones...
:) too much garlic...

it seems right now that it would not make a difference but if the human race started out that way then possibly...





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phixion
02-01-2003, 09:29 PM
racism will always exist. i mean look at ur average person of european decent and ur average Jew. they look pretty alike except for that funky hat. but some eurpoeans are anti-semitic. obviously color has little to do with it. it also involves bank accounts. =)

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LiquidCourage
02-01-2003, 09:48 PM
People would hear ebonics and be able to tell.

Johnathan H Christ
02-01-2003, 09:55 PM
this would be great, cause then we could get down to only hating peple who cant kiss.

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Bama
02-01-2003, 10:13 PM
People who smell deserve to be discriminated against.

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bisqit999
02-01-2003, 11:10 PM
If WE did not have the SENSE o...



Yup

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Reephdweller
02-02-2003, 05:57 AM
Yes, absolutely. Then people would just start prejudging each other based on the sound of their voice or how they smell.

I agree with Hawk - because it is in our nature to to be warriors and have conflict. This is our caveman lineage coming through. If we no longer could see and judge our peers on looks, than we would judge them on something else.

People will always find a way, I used to try to imagine how a utopian society could exist, and I would realize that it just couldn't. Even if there was a way to re-program people, they would find something that they had issue with and hate that.

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grlNIN
02-02-2003, 06:37 AM
Take a bath, Frenchy!




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reeshy
02-02-2003, 08:13 AM
My sister has a friend who is blind and he is the most prejudiced bastard I ever met-so there!!!!

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TheMojoPin
02-02-2003, 08:52 AM
L'il Stevie Wonder hates everyone and he WILL fuck you up.

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fluffernutter
02-02-2003, 09:19 AM
So I see this hasn't exactly gone the way I hoped but Oh well.

Stevie Wonder DOES kick ass though.

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Reephdweller
02-02-2003, 11:02 AM
So I see this hasn't exactly gone the way I hoped but Oh well.


Fluff, I wish it were that easy, but unfortunatly I think it's in our nature to hate.

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reeshy
02-02-2003, 11:09 AM
this hasn't exactly gone the way I hoped but Oh well

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ChickenHawk
02-02-2003, 11:25 AM
People would hear ebonics and be able to tell.
Now you get this: http://www.geocities.com/hawkfact/annied.html

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BrianTheBailBondsman
02-02-2003, 11:30 AM
there absolutly still would be.. Some of those bastards Smell. As for me Im not pregidice ( i cant even slepp it ) and I hate everyone equally

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Reephdweller
02-02-2003, 01:46 PM
I hate everyone equally

Exactly...I not racist...maybe Humanist...I hate everyone..what is the term for hating everyone?

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LiquidCourage
02-02-2003, 03:34 PM
Racism's overrated.

Uncle Smokey
02-02-2003, 03:37 PM
You could poke my eyes out right now, Id still hate a canadian

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pennington
02-02-2003, 07:14 PM
If Moe was blind would he still hate Frank BLACK?

Christy
02-02-2003, 07:17 PM
Smokin' the weed again?

This question is something you would see on the Real World when the roomates where sitting together at a Starbucks! Damn, I love these discussions!

So join me at a Starbucks sometime, and let's talk! And we can discuss the REAL meaning of life! :-)

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LatinSpiceXoX
02-02-2003, 07:24 PM
#1.. Whose this Frank Black I keep reading about?

and
#2.. Has anyone seen the 'Who is your Crush on this board?' thread?.. cuz I need to update the list!
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TheBrain007
02-03-2003, 06:57 AM
The answer to this topic is.... no. If we were all blind, we'd only discriminate against stupid people, and they aren't really people anyway. (i don't mean mentally challenged, I mean lack of common sense people)

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