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FMJeff
02-04-2003, 11:32 AM
ok, so the elves are supposed to be immortal right? then why do they die? they're only immortal until they're killed? what's the use of being immortal...mccleod has been killed ahundred times over and he's still alive...immortal is immortal...elves suck.

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JiZ
02-04-2003, 11:39 AM
They're immortal, meaning they won't die of old age. However, they are from from invincible.

TheGameHHH
02-04-2003, 12:05 PM
Same problem I have with the movie Jeff, elves suck!

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kc7586
02-04-2003, 12:13 PM
elves are immortal yes, but they can die, either from a broken heart or if they get bored with life and want to move one.



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furie
02-04-2003, 12:26 PM
they don't age, but they can still be injured or killed.

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TheMojoPin
02-04-2003, 03:13 PM
Emotionless bastards only mate every seven years...that would make anyone stretch out the time they had. And get those ears out of the ricepickers!

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ADF
02-04-2003, 03:17 PM
It's called "suspension of disbelief." Try it.. you'll be amazed at how much better it makes your movie experience.

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FMJeff
02-04-2003, 10:28 PM
i just think if someone is immortal they shouldn't be able to die...i mean you might as well just say elves have an extended lifetime that has yet to be determined...

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TooCute
02-04-2003, 10:34 PM
Elves are NOT immortal. Their
lifespan while on middle earth is
that of middle earth. So when the
earth goes, they go.

They can be killed (you saw what
happened to Haldir, right?) but
their "fea" (=spirit) will be reborn.
So for example, there was this elf
Glorfindel back in the old old
days who died and was reborn
(and named Glorfindel again, go
figure). Glorindel II is the
Glorfindel in the FotR book (the
one who rode Asfaloth and
saved Frodo from the Nazgul by
taking him to Rivendell).

Most elves, as it turns out, get
sort of disenchanted with the
idea of living forever on middle
earth, because they'd got this
place called Valinor or Aman -
the undying lands - sort of like
Heaven for elves (humans die
and go to another place) - over
the seas to the west.

Instead of dying when they don't
feel like living on ME any more,
elves just take a jaunt over to
Mithlond in the far west of Middle
Earth, hop on a swan boat, and
sail out to Valinor, where they
live forever (along with their
'gods', the Valar - the ones who
made ME in the first place for
them).

By the time LotR takes place,
middle earth is really sort of
falling into disrepair, as it were,
and a lot of the elves are leaving
for Valinor - hence in the movie
we see Arwen (we think) leaving
to 'sail with her people to the
west'. By the end of the fourth
age, there are no elves left in ME.
(the fourth age begins after the
quest of the ring is all finished
and done).

I hope this helps a little...


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JerryTaker
02-05-2003, 05:59 AM
the Glorfindel in the FotR book (the one who rode Asfaloth and saved Frodo from the Nazgul by taking him to Rivendell)


And in the movie, it was revealed that he did this disguised as Arwen, as part of his sick plot to get into Strider's pants. Damn that elven crying game... :-)

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JustJon
02-05-2003, 10:18 AM
I think Jeff needs a copy of the Silmarilion.

And was anyone else surprised that TooCute had all the answers? :)

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02-05-2003, 12:55 PM
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TooCute
02-05-2003, 02:02 PM
And was anyone else surprised that TooCute had all the answers? :)

Fuck off, Jon, and take your stupid smiley with you!

You're just jealous that I answered before you got a chance to.

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walking joint
02-05-2003, 02:45 PM
elves suck

especially those elves that want to be dentist.

WintersEmbers
02-05-2003, 07:55 PM
yeah i suggest the best way to figure all of this stuff out without a headache would be to read the silmarillion, melkor is a badass anyhow, reason enough to pick it up.

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