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Cannon

02-13-2003, 06:36 AM

The French havent really been our friends since Vietnam, and every 20-30 years or so need to be reminded of their place in the world by getting bitch slapped by someone bad enough to come running to us for help.

They always need to show their balls during times when there is no war. remember they didnt allow our planes to fly over back in the 80's when we bombed lybia?

this is no different. They are full of piss and vinegar until a shot is fired in their general direction, then they come-a-runnin' for help.

They have contributed nothing to the world as of late, other than French Fries, French Toast, French Ticklers, and French Bread.

that and Gerard Depardu

and for that I say "boycott 'em"

French Bread Pizza is cool though, and there will be no boycotts of her even though "French" is in her name ;)

TheMojoPin

02-13-2003, 07:58 AM

Should we boycott the frogs?

You mean you weren't already? Slacker.

I'm boycotting Furie's posts, because for some reason his links never open up a new window, and I keep closing the one I currently have open whenever I finish checking out whatever he linked...he's taking away three seconds of my life I'll never get back with each link he unleashes!!!

Heh..."link"...

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A.J.

02-13-2003, 08:02 AM

I say we give them the cold shoulder treatment. France is "Alice" and the U.S. is "The Brady Kids".

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The Blowhard

02-13-2003, 08:06 AM

Long Island wines are just as good as French wines. Just boycotting the wine will kill them. Same with that crappy Perrier and Evian water..Deer Park baby!

DarkHippie

02-13-2003, 08:06 AM

"Anything we can do to hurt them without hurting us, I will support," said Republican congressman Peter King.
Did I miss something? are we at war with europe too? Why, cause they have an opinion that disagrees with ours?

If that's the case, I guess we'll be trading with only England from now on

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nickeye

02-13-2003, 08:11 AM

France is "Alice" and the U.S. is "The Brady Kids".
If anything, France is Skippy Handleman, and we're Alex P. Keaton.

No, wait: France is Potsie, and we're the Fonz. Then Germany can be Ralph, England is Richie, Italy is Chachi...

Wormwood

02-13-2003, 08:44 AM

Boycott the Frogs? My life wouldnt change one bit if we did.

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Spank Daddy

02-13-2003, 08:51 AM

Did I miss something? are we at war with europe too? Why, cause they have an opinion that disagrees with ours?

I don't think it's a case of France and Germany having a different opinion than ours, but one of having a different interest of Saddam remaining in power. France and Germany got sweetheart technology for oil deals with Iraq, and are only looking out for their own interests, and not that of the world's.
So much shit will hit the fan after the war showing how much both countries cooperation with Iraq has helped Saddam to use his power to create havoc all over the world, and they know it will not look good for them politically. They will lose whatever power and prestige they had after this, and will find themselves sitting next to other low level countries at the UN table.
New lines are being drawn in the sand all over the world since 9/11, and friendships after the war will be shifted, so if you believe in Bush's words "You are either with us, or against us", then maybe soon, yes, France and Germany might become "un-friendly's" to the USA.

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LiquidCourage

02-13-2003, 09:06 AM

They'll eventually get taken over and we'll have to save them again.
Now that the USSR is gone, Europe is going to break down into a bunch of nation-states.
Expect more wars to come.

TheMojoPin

02-13-2003, 09:51 AM

So much shit will hit the fan after the war showing how much both countries cooperation with Iraq has helped Saddam to use his power to create havoc all over the world, and they know it will not look good for them politically.

Wait, wait, wait, WAIT. I'll agree France is being incredibly petty in this issue, but saying that we'd be justified in "exposing" them for the same kinda shit WE pulled with Iraq practically up until the night before the invasion of Kuwait would be like the most hypocritical thing EVER. Saddam and co. were our homies for a damn long time, and we literally let them get away with murder...

That's not to say we can't do the right thing now, but let's not get ridiculous and start calling other countries on the same shit we pulled.

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furie

02-13-2003, 10:09 AM

Hippie, it's not about having a diffrent opinion, it's about supporting your ally.

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GaryWyze

02-13-2003, 10:33 AM

Why, cause they have an opinion that disagrees with ours?

They don't have a disagreement, they have an agenda.

Don't exactly have to be Olivier Stone to figure out what's really happening here.

It's all about little countries, with big egos, enjoying the spotlight.

And as shameful as it is that so many nations in the World refuse to step up, it takes on a whole new level of disgrace with Germany and France.

Germany, if they truly wanted to separate themselves from the horrors of their past, would be leading the charge to stop Saddam and end his tyranny.

As for France, well, their very freedom was paid for with the blood of thousands of Americans. For them to so emphatically go against us at every turn is simply sickening.

When it comes to terrorism, if you're not part of the solution, you're definitely part of the problem!

We should deal with Iraq. Finish off the Taliban. And tell the World to fuck off.

Or however they say fuck off in French!

stickyfingers

02-13-2003, 10:37 AM

some jokes to lighten the mood

What do you call a beautiful woman in Paris without hair under her arms and legs ?
A tourist

Going to war without France,
is like going fishing without an accordian - -
You're just leaving a lot of noisy baggage behind !

Why did the French plant trees along the Champs Elysees ?
So the Germans could march in the shade.

Ask a European if he is a Frenchman or a German.
If he says he is a Frenchman, you say,
'Yeah, thanks to an AMERICAN, your not a GERMAN !'

Wanna know the best place to hide your money in a French hotel ?
Under the soap !

What do you call 100,000 Frenchmen with their hands up?
The French Army

A Frenchwoman with a parrot on her shoulder walks into an English bar.
The barman says "That's a real ugly bird you got there. Where did you get it?
The parrot says " I got it in France ..there's millions of em there"

What did the Mayor of Paris say to the German Army as they entered during WWII?
"Table for One Hundred Thousand ?"

Why don't they have fireworks at Euro Disney ?
Because every time they shoot them off, the French try to surrender.

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wilee

02-13-2003, 10:40 AM

No more stinky cheese? Damnit. There goes the party.

Furie's right. It's about supporting your ally. Reports today talk about how there is a missle in Iraq that is capable of reaching a lot further than U.N. sanctions allow. But all we hear are people saying "Look, he's letting inspectors into his country. He's a good guy. This is only about oil."

OK, so a U.N. sanctioned country tells us they're abiding by the rules, and we find something that proves otherwise. To me, that means they forgot to hide this one and we haven't stumbled onto the big cache yet. I say we imply that we are going to do some other searches, and go down a list of them. When Saddam or his P.R. get flustered- "You can't do that!" , that's where you'll find the weapons.

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brijjack

02-13-2003, 11:19 AM

FUCK FRANCEAfter staging the biggest invasion in military history to liberate them, we get this shit? How many brave Americans, British, and Canadian soldiers died on the beaches of Normandy for Frances freedom. Now how many innocent Iraqis (sp) living under the thumb of a madman. Doesn't France remember how that felt? Peter King is right.

DarkHippie

02-13-2003, 12:14 PM

Hippie, it's not about having a diffrent opinion, it's about supporting your ally.
In replace of your own ethics? I get it: Politics over Morals. Yes, we should certainly boycott them for having the courage to stand for their own morals.

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GaryWyze

02-13-2003, 12:38 PM

In replace of your own ethics? I get it: Politics over Morals. Yes, we should certainly boycott them for having the courage to stand for their own morals

That's a pretty big (if not naive) assumption. And it's funny that you should mention morals.

There's nothing moral about hindering the effort to ensure Iraq's compliance with the terms of their surrender.

And there's certainly nothing ethical in allowing Saddam's tyranny to continue to go unchecked.

This isn't about France having the courage of their convictions. If it was, I'd at least respect them for that. No, what they're doing here is what they've done time and time before... putting their own self interest ahead of their allies and the World as a whole.

Rather than risk the wrath of terrorist, or offend any of the oil producing nations, they're willing to champion the cause of indifference.

Few things are more dangerous than that!

Death Metal Moe

02-13-2003, 12:43 PM

A Frenchwoman with a parrot on her shoulder walks into an English bar.
The barman says "That's a real ugly bird you got there. Where did you get it?
The parrot says " I got it in France ..there's millions of em there"

I like this joke better the way I 1st heard it. The way you'd get Annie DeFrancoed

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02-13-2003, 12:56 PM

pennington

02-13-2003, 01:17 PM

I guess we'll be trading with only England from now on

We buy FAR more from Germany and France than they buy from us. If we stopped buying it would totally destroy Germany's economy and seriously damage France's. Both of these countries' economies are currently in recession as it is, and it wouldn't take much to push them over the edge.

If they stopped buying from us, other then maybe the auto industry, it wouldn't even be a blip on the economic screen.

Besides, except for these two countries and Belgium, all the rest of Europe is on board.

DarkHippie

02-13-2003, 01:40 PM

A quick point,I dont think germany,france and russia has any right to put the words morals or ethics in the same sentence.Germany=WW1 & WW2,Russia=Cold war,and numerous atrocities during the soviet era,and the french=for numerous atrocities in senegal,ivory coast and parts of vietnam.Screw the french,germans,russians,and the belgians(who the hell are the belgians to open their mouths?).
If you want to drudge up history like that, then we have no right in taking the moral high ground. after all, America is one of the most blatant violators of human rights in the world according to amnesty international (and anyone who can say anything bad about them deserves a shiny golden helmet)

But lets see what your saying here: france and germany do not want to go to war. based on bush's tactful diplomatic strategy "either you're with us or against us," not wanting to go to war-- to destabize an already unstable region-- makes you the enemy.

Are we that hungry to hate that we'll turn our backs on a country for not agreeing with us? I don't agree with us either. Our president has ignored all other options, and used threats instead of diplomacy, thinking that will lead to a "peaceful end." HA!! He never wanted a peaceful end. He wanted us to go to war, bombings in our streets, the blood of our own citizens spilt. This is the road he led us down, and instead of thinking for yourself, the short-sighted rubes of america rushed to his side chanting like it was a Klan rally.

None of you have even thought what's gonna happen once Iraq is gone. How many wars are we going to fight? korea? Iran? France? germany? what happens when the world says "stop" Will we take them on to. I've seen alot of anti-world sentiment on this board. where do we stop?

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DarkHippie

02-13-2003, 03:48 PM

Anders: please read what I wrote. this is about them not agreeing with us going to war. Nothing else. thank you.

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Recyclerz

02-13-2003, 03:52 PM

Chistopher Hitchens, a lefty turned hawkish by 9/11, on why it is OK to hate on the French

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110003045

I also agree with Tom Friedman in the NY Times who suggests (only partially tongue-in-cheek) that we get them kicked off the UN Security Council and replace them with India.

As for Germany, since my 20th century history text books were some of few that I actually cracked open in school, I'm kinda glad they're acting like pacifists. It only took two world wars to learn them something.

PS Dark Hippie
I suspect I agree with you on a lot of issues (I'm also a member of AI) but I think you are overreaching with your criticism of the US. Yes the US has done a lot it should apologize for and some things we should be ashamed of (slavery and Native American genocide) but overall we've done a lot more to be proud of. Just because some folks get on their high horse (and, no young peeps, I don't mean heroin) and get all jingoistic about how America can do no wrong doesn't mean people of conscience automatically have to say America can do no right. It reduces the level of debate and it's just not true.

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reeshy

02-13-2003, 04:10 PM

Boycott France!! I threw out all of my BIC pens!!! Take that, you Frog Bastards!!!!

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LiquidCourage

02-13-2003, 04:23 PM

Yes, we should certainly boycott them for having the courage to stand for their own morals.

No, we should boycott them for being the eternal zit on the ass of the United States.

DarkHippie

02-13-2003, 04:35 PM

i just think its ironic that we used to boycott countries for going to war, now we boycott them for NOT going to war.

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LiquidCourage

02-13-2003, 04:38 PM

Hehe, I think it's funny that people are angry that the the Germans of all people aren't MORE hawkish.

ADF

02-13-2003, 05:23 PM

I dunno.. if we boycott "The Frogs," can we still watch and read some of Aristophanes' other plays?

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LiquidCourage

02-13-2003, 05:30 PM

Fuck em.
They wouldn't even let us use their air space when we bombed Libya in 1986.

Recyclerz

02-13-2003, 06:37 PM

I dunno.. if we boycott "The Frogs," can we still watch and read some of Aristophanes' other plays?

I dunno ADF, you may be a little too clever for us plebes.

And I think Lysistrata may still be OK, timely even. ;-)

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TheMojoPin

02-13-2003, 08:01 PM

And I think Lysistrata may still be OK, timely even.

Why, is the White House staff walking around with raging boners because Condaleeza Rice locked them out of the residence or something?

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CaptClown

02-14-2003, 01:53 AM

Why, is the White House staff walking around with raging boners because Condaleeza Rice locked them out of the residence or something?

Who know, maybe she can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch?

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nickeye

02-14-2003, 05:59 AM

And we are not asking the French to fight Dark Hippie.
I bet he could take 'em, though.

furie

02-14-2003, 06:22 AM

Dark Hippie, if you are saying that the French are taking the high ground on morality than you are completely off base

Anders: please read what I wrote. this is about them not agreeing with us going to war. Nothing else. thank you.

Oh? Then why did you say:

In replace of your own ethics? I get it: Politics over Morals. Yes, we should certainly boycott them for having the courage to stand for their own morals.

If you didn't want to discuss France's morality, then you shouldn't have brought it up.

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fatty

02-14-2003, 06:44 AM

Yes, we should certainly boycott them for having the courage to stand for their own morals

France and courage in the same sentence? i had to see it to believe it.

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Arienette

02-14-2003, 10:14 PM

I dunno ADF, you may be a little too clever for us plebes
i like the way he gives a little road map through his posts, so that us common folk won't get lost. a man among men

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CaptClown

02-16-2003, 10:32 AM

To quote that great wrestling philosopher Stone Cold Steve Austin, "Hell yeah"

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Reephdweller

02-17-2003, 08:29 AM

Check this out, I think this pretty much says it all....

http://www.chickenhead.com/stuff/travel/france/index.html

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Death Metal Moe

02-17-2003, 01:30 PM

Just awesome reef!

Anyway, I just heard a report on FOX news saying that there has been a dramatic decrease in the purchase of French water, wine and cheese which are supposed to be big exports of France to us. It ammounts to so many Millions, I don't remember that.

I just know that France are a bunch fucking faggots and they should be made to feel insignifigant in the world, like they are.

DIE!

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A.J.

02-19-2003, 07:34 AM

Fried politics: Restaurant serves 'freedom fries'

Wednesday, February 19, 2003 Posted: 10:49 AM EST (1549 GMT)

BEAUFORT, North Carolina (AP) -- You can get fries with your burger at a restaurant here, but just don't ask for french fries.

Neal Rowland, the owner of Cubbie's, now only sells his fried potato strips as "freedom fries" -- a decision that comes as Americans watch French officials back away from support for possible war in Iraq.

"Because of Cubbie's support for our troops, we no longer serve french fries. We now serve freedom fries," says a sign in the restaurant's window.

Rowland said his intent is not to slight the French people, but to take a patriotic stance to show his support for the United States and the actions of President Bush.

"It's our way of showing our patriotic pride," he said, noting that his business has a lot of local military troops as customers.

Rowland said the switch from french fries to freedom fries came to mind after a conversation about World War I when anti-German sentiment prompted Americans to rename German foods like sauerkraut and hamburger to liberty cabbage and liberty steak.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/02/19/offbeat.freedom.fries.ap/index.html

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02-19-2003, 10:08 AM

Should we boycott the frogs?

Yes! Send a message to sony that we will not create a new Froglock character in their new Everquest expansion!

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