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Aggie
03-05-2003, 05:04 PM
I have to vent right now so sorry if I'm boring you, I just can't tell any of my friends here.

So this guy stopped by my apartment tonight and made me feel very uncomfortable. He is the husband of a woman I used to work with (he's 41 BTW), and every once in awhile when I need some weed I know I can get it from him. I usually go by his place and pick it up real quick and leave.

Well the last time I went over there I told him I was moving to Dallas and he said "that's a shame because you're really cute" or some bullshit like that. I thought he was trying to drop a hint since he had never said anything like that but I just blew it off and I didn't want to assume anything.

I called him tonight to get a little and he was right down the street so he said he'd drop by. So he came over and he wanted to smoke so he stayed for a little. Then he basically flat out told me he wanted to fuck. I of course refused and told him he was making me very uncomfortable so he left. But WTF?

I'm not saying I was in the best situation (like having a guy come over and smoking, I know that already), but it just got me thinking about how many guys cheat. It was nothing to him and he's married. So many guys friends I have cheat and it just really makes me never want to trust anyone. I would almost feel naive thinking that my guy wouldn't cheat when all these others do. Ugh, I know girls cheat to but I guess I'm just grossed out and frustrated.

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ShelleBink
03-05-2003, 05:22 PM
I think there are a few good guys out there...

...at least that's what I tell myself after shitty dates...

especially ones where his wife walks in and ruins the whole thing.

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Death Metal Moe
03-05-2003, 05:22 PM
Of course they don't.

But you never hear about those guys. The ones that are faithful and honest are the ones that don't make great Talk Show guests or are out there trying to score with a bunch of chicks drawing attention to themselves.

Morals are being phased out of our society.

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03-05-2003, 05:24 PM
i've never cheated

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03-05-2003, 05:25 PM
Only the ones that get caught.

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erole
03-05-2003, 05:25 PM
not all, but sadly most.
there are the guys who do it all the time
the ones who do it occasionally
the ones who do it with only one person like a mistress
the ones who do it if they only can
the ones who did it and because of it never do it again
the ones who think about doing it all the time
the ones who thought about doing it once
the ones who never did, never will
just like women
there are some good guys out there, it's true. just as i
know there are some good women out there too. the
secret is not getting too close to everyone you see,
staying away from the ones that would cheat, and
having the strength and the hope to ante up again if it
ever happens to you. and even, sometimes, if you got
cheated on, weighing the differences and having the
strength of forgiveness, if it's worth it.
personally, i'll say guys cheat more than women. but i
think women do other things too that are maybe just
as bad emotionally and mentally...it's just that women
and men are so unalike in ways that their reactions and
what they do with their thoughts make for different
outcomes and senarios
What that guy did was ugly. And there are a lot of him
out there. But mid-life crisis, 40-something, creepy
drug guy is REALLY ugly. yikes. sorry it happened to
you aggie. he's got real poor character.
look at it this way...would you cheat on your man?
would there be any reason? any temptation that
would come your way that you couldn't resist? maybe
a lull or bump in your relationship that would make the
decision easier? however you answer that, you can
find a guy who answered it the same way you did.
And you know, sometimes there are even those, men
or women, who are solid when it comes to a
relationship, and for one reason or another after 15
years they lapse, and make a mistake. you have to ask
yourself what you would do in that situation too, on
either side of the fence.
I like it when people bring this stuff up. for one, it's
good to vent. but also, it makes people think and
share feelings, thoughts. you might even learn
something new about the opposite sex or yourself. but
man, that must have been an ugly scene. sorry aggie.


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ChickenHawk
03-05-2003, 05:35 PM
Ugh, do all guys cheat?
Nope, just the ones hot girls date.

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Johnny Fontane
03-05-2003, 05:43 PM
Let me get this straight...this guy is married, but he's always there for you when you need to get high? Like on a Wednesday night, he's there for you at a moment's notice, with a big bag of weed so you can smoke your head off.

It's hard to believe that such an honorable gentleman actually had sexual designs on you.

So you need to vent..."ugh, do all guys cheat?" The answer is no. Find a more honorable crackhead.

And then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive-oil voice, and guinea charm.

erole
03-05-2003, 05:49 PM
not all, but sadly most.
there are the guys who do it all the time
the ones who do it occasionally
the ones who do it with only one person like a mistress
the ones who do it if they only can
the ones who did it and because of it never do it again
the ones who think about doing it all the time
the ones who thought about doing it once
the ones who never did, never will
just like women
there are some good guys out there, it's true. just as i
know there are some good women out there too. the
secret is not getting too close to everyone you see,
staying away from the ones that would cheat, and
having the strength and the hope to ante up again if it
ever happens to you. and even, sometimes, if you got
cheated on, weighing the differences and having the
strength of forgiveness, if it's worth it.
personally, i'll say guys cheat more than women. but i
think women do other things too that are maybe just
as bad emotionally and mentally...it's just that women
and men are so unalike in ways that their reactions and
what they do with their thoughts make for different
outcomes and senarios
What that guy did was ugly. And there are a lot of him
out there. But mid-life crisis, 40-something, creepy
drug guy is REALLY ugly. yikes. sorry it happened to
you aggie. he's got real poor character.
look at it this way...would you cheat on your man?
would there be any reason? any temptation that
would come your way that you couldn't resist? maybe
a lull or bump in your relationship that would make the
decision easier? however you answer that, you can
find a guy who answered it the same way you did.
And you know, sometimes there are even those, men
or women, who are solid when it comes to a
relationship, and for one reason or another after 15
years they lapse, and make a mistake. you have to ask
yourself what you would do in that situation too, on
either side of the fence.
Understand the most important thing in all of this, and
ponder it. remember for each individual it may be
different...Why would you cheat? Is it possible that the
act of cheating isn't the real problem, but rather the
precursor to it? Possibly a character flaw? Vengence?
Self-esteem issue? No real moral values? The why
might be key. When you meet a person don't be afraid
to size them up and look for flaws too. The person you
are with has flaws, and you are dating those flaws
also. or, I could be just dead wrong, and men are
animals and will never be domesticated.
I like it when people bring this stuff up. for one, it's
good to vent. but also, it makes people think and
share feelings, thoughts. you might even learn
something new about the opposite sex or yourself. but
man, that must have been an ugly scene. sorry aggie.


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erole
03-05-2003, 05:54 PM
dear god did i just type that much that fast?


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phixion
03-05-2003, 05:58 PM
ive been cheated on so i refuse to cheat and yes i have a penis, but more importamtly i smoke........ any takers?

ges not. wats new?

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Aggie
03-05-2003, 06:18 PM
the ones who did it and because of it never do it again

that's the category i fall in, did it once, it ruined everything and it's NOT worth it. you brought up some good points and i'm pretty much on the same page as you. when it gets to the point of exclusiveness with a guy i guess i just have to trust that i am a good judge of character and trust that he would conduct himself the way i conduct myself with people of the opposite sex. i have many guy friends and some guys can't handle that, but i would never bitch about him having girl friends if he trusts me enough to have my guy friends. i know now from experience what situations not to put myself in. thanks erole, you're such a sweetie. it was pretty ugly, but it's over now and i'm a big girl, plus, he would have gotten some pepper spray in his eyes or a bullet in his ass if he didn't leave.



and johnny fontane, i already stated i know the situation was questionable, but it's not like he was always available at the drop of a hat (and i always paid, he never gave it to me). i don't normally get stuff from him, i've only called him maybe 5-6 times and it's a shame i have to be weary of being alone with someone who is married and almost twice my age. but think what you want.

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A.J.
03-05-2003, 06:31 PM
I'll admit it: I did -- ONCE.

I felt so guilty afterwards that I threw up (thank you Catholic education). Nevertheless, I learned a valuable lesson and made a promise to myself that I would never do something like that again. I don't want to ever feel the shame and guilt of being a cheat nor do I want to hurt someone I love.


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03-05-2003, 06:34 PM
I dont believe in it.

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Death Metal Moe
03-05-2003, 06:40 PM
but think what you want.


I just keep this in my thoughts:

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erole
03-05-2003, 06:49 PM
that might make a guy cheat. nice. two reasons to say
yes.

i believe that if you do cheat and you come away from
that experience with clarity and understanding about
yourself and the people you are with then that really
means something. sure it's not good to cheat, but we
learn from our mistakes, just like everything else. i'd
never judge a soul on what they DID, or think of a
person solely because of their history...it's who you are
now, and what you know now, that is most important,
that is being real.


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ChrisTheCop
03-05-2003, 07:33 PM
dear god did i just type that much that fast?



Yes. Twice. And I see Aggie isnt concerned about those pesky little drug tests anymore. I've never cheated on a woman I was seriously dating, but Aggie, wigger or not, would present a serious temptation.

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Aggie
03-05-2003, 07:42 PM
I just keep this in my thoughts:


do you dream about them too? :)

but Aggie, wigger or not, would present a serious temptation.


chris, you're such a sweet talker. get those handcuffs ready.

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HordeKing1
03-05-2003, 07:57 PM
AGGIE - I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience tonight. I'm glad you realize that the situation itself was not a very safe one for you to be in. The guy was invited to your house and you smoked weed together. He could have raped you and claimed it was consensual sex.

There are many guys who cheat and lie and steal and basically don't give a damn about anyone other then themselves. They think of women in terms of conquest and even chattel. I don't know if the majority of men are like this, but the stories I've heard sure make it seem so.

However, it's important to remember that there are also many guys who treat women with respect and as peers. There are guys who would not consider cheating, either in a relationship or in marriage. It is one of these guys you should look for.



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Iamnotatool
03-05-2003, 08:38 PM
Cheating is disrespectful. Its fucking repulsive. If you don't want to be with me, get the fuck outta dodge, but don't fuck someone else, and come home with dick on your breath looking for a kiss. Wait till were done, you filthy animal.

Please don't hold my huge nutbag against me, or I'll hold it against you that you have flapjack tits...

silera
03-06-2003, 03:38 AM
In my experience, all guys cheat.

Every person I've ever had a relationship with has cheated on me, except for my current one.

I guess I'm jaded.



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A.J.
03-06-2003, 04:08 AM
I just keep this in my thoughts:


And as his wallpaper.

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ToddEVF
03-06-2003, 04:17 AM
As a guy, i have noticed that most guys cheat. However, I have never and thats no bullshit. All the ladies i have dated, i have been faithful to, and i guess its because i'm one of those "nice" guys.

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toneburst20
03-06-2003, 04:18 AM
No... there are guys out there that don't cheat.... their the ones who are your firends that you have no intrest in.

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FUNKMAN
03-06-2003, 05:36 AM
only if there is a girl/lady/woman willing to go through with it...

in most cheating cases the girl/lady/woman knows that the man is dating someone or married...

the argument that "it's the man's responsibility" because he is dating or married is only 50% valid, it takes two to tango...

I look at it as one girl, F'n over another girl and one guy F'n two girls, just in different ways...

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stickyfingers
03-06-2003, 05:44 AM
Cheating is disrespectful. Its fucking repulsive


Don't forget Repetitive.....Here's my story, I'll admit it, I have cheated on girls in the past. Once i started cheating on them it seemed like it was okay to do it again. I know this is not true but it happened over and over. Of course those relationships didn't last (maybe when I cheated on them I kinda new it wasn't the real thing) Now I have had a gf for almost 2 years and I have yet to cheat on her and have no real desire to do so.

Does that make me a bad person?






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Dewey
03-06-2003, 05:50 AM
In my experience, all guys cheat.


That is pretty damn close to true. What most women don't understand, or refuse to understand, is that sex means something different for a man than it does for a woman.

Would you be jealous or resentful if your man went for a ride on a roller coaster? Would you feel he loved you less? And that is just what a little piece on the side is for a guy; a change of pace, nothing more.

I'm not talking about a long, emotional affair here, I'm just talking about knocking boots. And I'm not saying that all sex is that way for men; we can have intimate, loving sex too. But sex doesn't have to be that way for us.

If women would understand this, they'd feel a lot less threatened and hurt if the guy they are with dips his wick elsewhere once in a while. He's just visiting Great Adventure.

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GaryWyze
03-06-2003, 06:35 AM
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If women would understand this, they'd feel a lot less threatened and hurt if the guy they are with dips his wick elsewhere once in a while.

See, I was with you up until this part. Because by and large, it's true that men and women look at sex differently. For most females, some intimacy needs to be involved. Not at all the case for many men. All most guys need is opportunity.

But how would knowing this take away any of the hurt?

It's still wrong. And dishonest. And disrespectful. And even if there was absolutely no emotions involved, it would still hurt like hell if it was ever done to me.

What the head knows and the heart feels are usually pretty much mutually exclusive.

And like the rest of all the wonderfully enlightened and virtuous men we have here, I'll say that even when in the midst of some pretty shitty relationships, I've never cheated on a girl.

I'll also say that Aggie's sig pic is a lot of fun to look at.

Aggie, is that you?

HordeKing1
03-06-2003, 01:56 PM
Gender stereotypes notwithstanding, there are women who want sex w/o the complications of intimacy and there are men for whom sex without intimacy isn't fulfilling.

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DrewP
03-06-2003, 02:23 PM
Gender stereotypes notwithstanding, there are women who want sex w/o the complications of intimacy and there are men for whom sex without intimacy isn't fulfilling


Thanks HordeKing, I agree with you on that point.

I'd like to ask Dewey if he thinks men's point of view on sex applies if his woman is being unfaithful.

Finally the point I'd like to make is that men who are likely to cheat are more appealing to women because they have a sense of excitement about them. The nice guy thing is just not very fun.

I have had several woman friends at one time or another, and have always been told that I am 'really nice' a 'great guy' and 'any girl would be crazy to not want to be with me', however not a single one of them has ever thought of me 'in that way'. The fact of the matter is that a woman wants to feel swept-off-her-feet in love and nice and dependable guys don't inspire animal lust.

I have never been unfaithful but I've been cheated on; it burned a hole in me so deep that it was hard get close to anyone for a while.

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Aggie
03-06-2003, 02:43 PM
Aggie, is that you?

maybe :)

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silera
03-06-2003, 03:02 PM
If women would understand this, they'd feel a lot less threatened and hurt if the guy they are with dips his wick elsewhere once in a while.

I feel like I should be enough. If I'm not enough, then tell me, and move on to better things.

I can have uninvolved sex, that's not a problem. However, it is unfair to be in a relationship where feelings, finances, and even children are involved, and jeopardize it by bringing other people into the picture. "Dipping your wick" could mean that you are opening yourself up to a bastard child, diseases, or another woman that will harass your partner.

While the feeling part of it is easy to understand, economically, the money a man spends with another woman, is money that you aren't seeing for your rent, savings, or children.

Women may not be as wonton when making the decision to cheat because statistically, they rely on their partners economically, and have more to lose if their partner leave them.

Men just got accustomed to cheating because historically, they have been able to get away with it regardless of whether or not they've been caught.

Women will forgive a cheater more often than not. Men seldomly forgive.


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satan-2
03-06-2003, 03:37 PM
that's the category i fall in, did it once, it ruined everything and it's NOT worth it.


god, i can't stand it when girls make themselves look like the victim's of a crime.

everybody cheats.

god is an absentee LANDLORD!!!

later

Johnny Fontane
03-06-2003, 04:42 PM
However, it's important to remember that there are also many guys who treat women with respect and as peers. There are guys who would not consider cheating, either in a relationship or in marriage. It is one of these guys you should look for.

HordeKing said it best. I don't want to preach, but I will anyway...don't let sleazy people in your home, ever. At the risk of sounding judgemental, drug dealers are sleazy people - no exceptions.

Aggie, I don't think anything bad about you, and I'm glad you're safe. Just stay that way.



And then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive-oil voice, and guinea charm.

Johnny Fontane
03-06-2003, 05:00 PM
Ugh, I fucked up my quote.

And then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive-oil voice, and guinea charm.

Dewey
03-06-2003, 05:18 PM
I'd like to ask Dewey if he thinks men's point of view on sex applies if his woman is being unfaithful.


So ask me, then.

I feel like I should be enough.

Why? You may very well be more than enough as a friend, companion, and lover taken together, but that doesn't mean your man isn't going to crave some "strange" once in a while, and isn't going to give in to that craving.

It has nothing to do with you, or with whether you are "enough." Men are simply built this way. After a time, we will grow tired of effing the best looking, sexiest woman in the world, and will crave a change of pace. I'm not saying it is right, I'm just saying this is something deeply embedded in our natures. It probably has to do with our biological role in propagating the species.

And it needn't ruin a relationship either. I don't think the man should throw it in the woman's face, if he has this weakness. But as long as he is taking care of business with his woman, including meeting his financial responsibilities, and not bringing home the creeping crud, it need not be a relationship breaker.



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This message was edited by Dewey on 3-6-03 @ 9:33 PM

Johnny Fontane
03-06-2003, 05:24 PM
They think of women in terms of conquest and even chattel.


I don't think of women in terms of chattel. I don't even know what the fuck chattel is.

(I CAN QUOTE, I CAN QUOTE! I AM NOT A RETARD!)

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synthfiend
03-06-2003, 07:03 PM
I've been with my girlfriend for almost 4 years and I've never cheated. I've been TEMPTED but I've never cheated. I get it all at home. The love, the devotion (although she aint always the nicest person in the world) PLUS she's a freak and a half. I get all my needs met so I never feel like cheating.

What do you want from us? We're EVIL! EVIL!!!!!!

erole
03-06-2003, 07:24 PM
I don't think of women in terms of chattel. I don't even know what the fuck chattel is.


i laughed my ass off at this. nice!

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IrishAlkey
03-06-2003, 07:29 PM
but that doesn't mean your man isn't going to crave some "strange" once in a while


I get all the "strange" I need being a member of this board.

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Arienette
03-06-2003, 07:42 PM
dewey, it sounds to me like you're just trying to justify giving in to your desires. do you really think that this sort of thing is exclusive to men? do you really think that women don't look at other guys and feel that same desire? i don't mean to imply that men and women approach sex the same way - they don't. but please dont try to say that the fact that you want to have sex with different women with whom you have no emotional attachment should make it okay for you to cheat. it's not okay. you talk about how women should try to understand about men's needs... what about what the woman needs or wants? you seem to know full well from what you've written that a man cheating will hurt his woman. if he really cared about her so much, wouldnt he get past his carnal desire and not do it simply to avoid hurting her? if you want to be with a lot of different women, then just don't be in a relationship. it's very simple. so do whatever you want, but please dont try to sell it to us.

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Geppetto
03-06-2003, 08:03 PM
In my experience, all guys cheat.


It all depends on the guy, we all look but if you have the right woman you only need one.

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erole
03-06-2003, 08:13 PM
Men are simply built this way...I'm not saying it is right, I'm just saying this is something deeply embedded in our natures. It probably has to do with our biological role in propagating the species.


sorry budday but i will have to respectfully disagree with you.
i see this as the biggest male cop out of all time. "it's just the way i am" or "i can't help it" is just another way of saying, "I have no self control, I'm a child at heart, and I don't care what I do or hurt as long as I am happy at the moment."
Penis propagates, sure it does...but having no control but to propagate is a lie. whether it's a lie to yourself or a lie passed down to you. Penis pees, sure it does...but do you piss in your pants in public because you can't control it? come on. really. you don't urinate all over what you want, and you don't spread your bananna juice all over what you want. self-control. and the thing about bananna juice is that you can keep it in you your entire life.
You see a young woman with a D sized chest and an ass that goes ba room pa doomp doomp, and your eyes go whoomp! Go back a couple hundred years ago where men salivated over women with little chest, no ass, and were overweight.
so please, end the cop out...stop listening to what the world tells you and get to the real heart of the matter.

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HordeKing1
03-06-2003, 11:24 PM
We are more than mere biological imperitives. In other words we can control our impulses - and if you want to stay in a relationship you damn well better.

I've been married nearly 18 years, and I couldn't even think of cheating. I love my wife and wouldn't want to hurt her in any way. I guess more importantly, when I think of sex, I think of her.

That's not to say we both don't find other people sexually attractive. Of course we do. But we're in a long term committed loving relationship and we act out our desires with each other. Despite what you may have heard, sex only gets better as the love, trust and depth of a relationship grows, even 22 years after meeting.

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The Chairman
03-07-2003, 08:56 AM
There are many guys who cheat and lie and steal and basically don't give a damn about anyone other then themselves. They think of women in terms of conquest and even chattel. I don't know if the majority of men are like this, but the stories I've heard sure make it seem so.

Come on get off your high horse with all the PC BS. It takes two to cheat and guys wouldn't cheat if women didn't let them. If women (not you Aggie) didn't enable this behavior then guys wouldn't cheat.

I have never cheated on a woman, even ones I've casually dated. I have scores of male friends and I don't know ONE who has cheated on their significant other. I think more women cheat on men, and I have seen studies that validate this (although there are others that show more men cheat.)

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TheBrain007
03-07-2003, 03:29 PM
No, not all... some get cheated on by women who cheat, lie, and manipulate. Like me for instance. Ugh.

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silera
03-07-2003, 09:12 PM
If women (not you Aggie) didn't enable this behavior then guys wouldn't cheat.

I agree to a point, however the women with whom men cheat, don't always know they're involved nor did they make any commitment to the relationship that he and his partner formed.

The responsibility to be faithful lies with the two people in a relationship.



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Lummox
03-07-2003, 09:21 PM
God DAMN I don't miss being single. Cheating isn't an issue anymore, and strange floating all over the place does get the juices flowing, but those energies are then focused on my spouse. Find a good one and commit- no regrets and LONG term relationships just provide for more opportunities for more exploration sexually with someone you know. NICE!!!!


The only thing I do know, is that I don't know....

guy44687843
03-08-2003, 09:48 AM
Shut the hell up, silera or whatever the hell your name is. Sterotypical feminist twat. "Oh, my boyfriend cheated, boo-hooo." How old are you, cause if your young, the reason is probely
cause you go out with irresponseble sacks of monkey shit like everyother airheaded bitch out there.if you want dependibilty, go with some lonely fat guy. Cause we never cheat when we get some.

guy44687843
03-08-2003, 09:55 AM
and Aggie, you were going out with a 41 year old married man??? You seriously think he was with you because of your intelligence? Your wit? Stupid Bitch.

Iamnotatool
03-08-2003, 11:19 AM
and Aggie, you were going out with a 41 year old married man??? You seriously think he was with you because of your intelligence? Your wit? Stupid Bitch


Hey guy, I don't think she ever said she was going out with him. Just scoring a bag or 2. No need for the nastiness. It could have happened to any young cutie.

Please don't hold my huge nutbag against me, or I'll hold it against you that you have flapjack tits...

FollowThisLogic
03-08-2003, 11:44 AM
guy44687843, typically when you actually read a thread before replying in it, you don't look as fucking retarded as you do here.

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guy44687843
03-08-2003, 12:47 PM
okay followthislogic, yet the only response you have is "Your fucking retarted" DERRR!! You waste of human life.

Iamnotatool
03-08-2003, 01:38 PM
Guy, I think you may have taken my spot as "asshole of the board"

Not sure that grLNIN would agree though

Please don't hold my huge nutbag against me, or I'll hold it against you that you have flapjack tits...

Katylina
03-08-2003, 02:04 PM
Stupid Bitch
Why, that line sets my heart aflutter...

Excuse me, sir, your ignorance is showing.


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IrishAlkey
03-08-2003, 02:09 PM
Shut the hell up, silera or whatever the hell your name is. Sterotypical feminist twat. "Oh, my boyfriend cheated, boo-hooo." How old are you, cause if your young, the reason is probely
cause you go out with irresponseble sacks of monkey shit like everyother airheaded bitch out there.if you want dependibilty, go with some lonely fat guy. Cause we never cheat when we get some.

Somebody is tired of never getting any from attractive women...

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silera
03-08-2003, 02:48 PM
if you want dependibilty, go with some lonely fat guy. Cause we never cheat when we get some.

If you hadn't called me a stupid feminist twat, I might have given you a chance Mr. Dependable Lonely Fat Man.



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stump12
03-08-2003, 07:38 PM
Almost all people cheat.
I think people just wanna know that they can still get someone other than who theyre with.
People get scared of being with the same person forever so they go try something else without breaking off what they have, its just a weasels way out. I thought i loved this girl but was too young and when the oppertunity came up i went for it.
And a woman i worked with, who was just married for a year, came onto to me but she had kids and i think before we went all the way even i felt like a scumbag and we both stopped it there.

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Johnny Fontane
03-08-2003, 07:57 PM
go with some lonely fat guy. Cause we never cheat when we get some.


All the lonely people. Where do they all come from? All the lonely people. Where do they all belong?

- Paul McCartney (not Lennon/McCartney, as Yoko would lead you to believe).

"I don't cheat. I got no one to cheat on." - Johnny Fontane, March 2003.

Yes I'm lonely. Wanna die. Yes I'm lonely. Wanna die. If I ain't dead already, girl you know the reason why.

- John Lennon (or Lennon/McCartney, if you prefer.

And then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive-oil voice, and guinea charm.

Johnny Fontane
03-08-2003, 08:11 PM
This is a messageboard, dammit. Why would anyone admit they're fat?

Not me - I'm gorgeous - not an ounce of fat on me. That wasn't me eating 2 slices of Snickers Pie at the deli on 7th Ave. today. That was - uh - Fez, yeah, that's it, Fez! Never watches what he eats.

I'm fat in a Bill Clinton kind of way. Thank God I'm tall and handsome (and conceited, too).

Much like Warren Beatty, I walk into the party like I'm walking on to a yacht. All the girls dream that they'll be my partner, they'll be my partner. I'm so vain.

And I think I'm suffering from mental illness right about now. Good night to all my imaginary friends @ RonFez.net.

And then Johnny Fontane comes along with his olive-oil voice, and guinea charm.

Dewey
03-09-2003, 10:30 AM
dewey, it sounds to me like you're just trying to justify giving in to your desires.


Well put, Arienette: honest, straightforward, and true. I can't really argue with you there.

What I am trying to say is that women would not be so hurt by a man's "wandering" if they better understood where it was coming from (no pun intended). If a woman projects her psychological and emotional mindset regarding sex onto her man, she is making a mistake, and subjecting herself needlessly to emotional pain.

Men aren't like women. As D.R. Gilroy, Jr., used to say "We just dropped out of the trees a few years ago. Our knuckles still drag on the ground." If you find a good man who loves you, protects and provides for you and your children, and would go to hell and back for you, maybe it would be best to forgive him if the needle on his compass points in another direction once in a while.

I think we both agree that cheating is wrong. What I question, and have a problem with, is the weight so many women attach to this. Provided all the other factors are in place, I think this is a mistake.

I would love to be the sort of man who would never cheat, and never want to. I have only felt this way once in my life, and I was with the woman for such a short time that I don't know if the desire to stray would have resurfaced after a time. If a man honestly feels this way, my hat is off to him.

A lot of men in this thread are b.s.ing. I guarantee if this were a conversation among men only, you wouldn't be hearing all this "I would never" stuff. Cartoons are on Saturday, fellas. Show some calyuns and say what you really think. The dialogue between men and women will never progress unless it's based in honesty.


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stickyfingers
03-10-2003, 05:08 AM
Shut the hell up, silera or whatever the hell your name is


yeah her name is pretty tough, I can see how you would get confused guy44242947902384523

You planning on coming to any events? 80 posts in and already a pariah





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grlNIN
03-10-2003, 05:38 AM
guy44242947902384523




if you decode all his numbers using the alphabet they spell out "The Fat Man Walks Alone"

and indeed he does my friend, indeed he does.....

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Iamnotatool
03-10-2003, 05:51 AM
I must say, Sticky, even you grlNIN....funny shit

Guy816516515131231321321. OK Terrific

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synthfiend
03-10-2003, 06:19 AM
Hey Guy8675309 got put on extended vacation after only 80 posts. Is that a record?

What do you want from us? We're EVIL! EVIL!!!!!!

Raven
03-10-2003, 06:28 AM
Oh I thought this was an INVITE to Cheat -- my bad --- {remember men are animals at heart} nuff said

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Raven
03-10-2003, 06:33 AM
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I think there are a few good guys out there...

...at least that's what I tell myself after shitty dates...

especially ones where his wife walks in and ruins the whole thing.

...why are you all looking at me like that?




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Ressiccan
03-16-2003, 05:34 AM
All men are PIGs.....so yes



Ress



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stickyfingers
03-16-2003, 09:19 AM
oink, oink




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JiZ
03-16-2003, 09:45 AM
It's easy for me not to cheat on a girl. I just refuse to get into a relationship. If i'm talking to one girl and I meet another...I always let them know they're not the only one. I talk to many girls but it takes alot to keep me interested. Sometimes I think I may have real high standards for a girl. I guess if I ever had a problem getting one, I could just lower myself and talk to a girl from this board. I know that's rude, but i've seen alot of you at Bar9.

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legroommusic
03-16-2003, 09:57 AM
Lot's of guys cheat. It's true. I can honestly say that I have not cheated and I don't know what I'd do if I ever came into that situation. But I do know one thing....

I love you, aggie.

stickyfingers
03-16-2003, 10:03 AM
some things are better left unsaid





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FMJeff
03-17-2003, 08:00 AM
Guys cheat. Girls cheat. Nobody is innocent. When you find the right person, you won't have to deal with this shit. Until then, suck it up and accept it as natural human behavior. Curse the guy off, punch a wall, and move on...but don't waste any more time on the scum than you have to.



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high fly
03-18-2003, 03:03 PM
Yeah, yeah, I cheated once,but only once and I'll never do it again.
It was several years ago and I was gonna break up with my girlfriend ennyway, but that's no excuse.
It's a dispicable, dishonest, dishonorable thing to do and I am deeply ashamed of it.

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Friday
03-24-2003, 04:52 PM
yes. but some of them actually tell you up front that they can not be tied to one person....that they need to have sex with lotso people....so then it isn't really "cheating". Either way....they will probably cheat mentally or physically. I prefer physical....to me...not so threatening. But that's just my humble opinion of course. Remember...I am weird.

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MsBettyBoop
04-01-2003, 01:15 PM
No, not all of them cheat. Some of them just leave too. Or they will be such winey bitches that you have to leave or cheat on them.