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DarkHippie
03-20-2003, 04:25 PM
I agree wholeheartedly. But the "Faux News Network" has such pretty graphics, and uses such dramatic adjectives.

Of course besides what you said about the major outlets being controlled by big business, a problem is a dramatic shift in the way journalism is being taught in college. The line has been blurred between Journalism and non-fiction. Now journalists believe that in addition to delivering the facts, they have to provide a
"context" for the average citizen to understand the facts presented. in other words: they present their opinion with the facts.

This is wrong. That is not journalism, that is Non-fiction, which could be defined as "the creative expression of personal views and experiences."

basically, the media is saying we are dumb. that we can't form our own opinions, so they pepper their reports with their own. I just flipped on fox news for a moment (as i said in a previous post I often do for comparison) nd they were right their doing it blantantly, reading a horribly slanted letter from a viewer as if it was fact.

Just give us the facts, mr. newsman, and let us think for ourselves

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silera
03-20-2003, 05:15 PM
I read the Daily News to get disgusted.


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Death Metal Moe
03-20-2003, 05:15 PM
Get a room you two.

I watched the BBC news broadcast for a few minutes and after I woke up, I switched it. I will NOT turn on your Liberal radio station.

Really, the news stations are all kinda equal in this so far in my opinion. Not too many real pictures but a lot of speculation and reports from reporters with the troop.

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Gvac
03-20-2003, 05:28 PM
Aren't you sick of being force fed the conservative agenda?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Thanks bro, I needed that! So now the mainstream media is conservatively biased?

By whose standards, Karl Marx?

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ChickenHawk
03-20-2003, 05:30 PM
I guess that's why they call it the "Conservative Media"...
wait, no they don't.

I dunno 'bout the rest of you people, but I think there's
only one way of saying "The USA is bombing the shit out
of Iraq". I feel pretty cconfident that that's the story by
every source of news. If not, ILM's sure doing a nice job
of rendering 3D images of Baghdad. Turn on CNN: The
USA is bombing the shit out of Iraq. Turn on Fox News:
The USA is bombing the shit out of Iraq. Turn on NPR:
The USA is bombing the shit out of Iraq. Turn on BBC:
The USA is bombing the shit out of Iraq. Turn on Al
Jazeera: The USA is bombing the shit out of Iraq.

All sounds pretty consistent to me.


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The Jays
03-20-2003, 05:59 PM
... Gee, focusing on all the anti-war protests instead of the support ralies and asking questions about the world hating us, and what we can do to make people like us.... yeah, that sounds like the Conservative media.... ::rolls eyes::

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ChickenHawk
03-20-2003, 05:59 PM
Read the Village Voice: "Fake Iraq Documents 'Embarrassing' for U.S."
"Scalia: War Means Rights May Be Scaled Back"
I don't see how that changes the fact that: The USA is bombing the shit out of Iraq.

And by the way, you wanna talk biased... you think you're gonna get UNBIASED NEWS from the Village Voice??? http://www.geocities.com/hawkfact/laugh.html

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Se7en
03-20-2003, 06:15 PM
ChickenHawk, I don't think that the Village Voice is unbiased. I look for news from a variety of sources for just that reason. I suggest you do the same.

Only your very first post here was to criticize the media for being too conservative. You're not making any sense here - you're defending your reading of the Village Voice, a biased publication, and admonishing another poster to read a variety of sources (I'm assuming by that you mean both left AND right leaning publications / sources), but at the same time, you're arguing about the conservative sources...

I don't know, you're being silly.

Look, just admit: you, and guys like DarkHippie, you like certain news sources that favor your ideology, and dislike sources that don't. What does that make you? EXACTLY LIKE THE REST OF US.

Most media sources either lean to the left, or are sympathetic to it. Fox News and a bunch of annoying conservative radio DJs like Rush or Sean Hannity don't make a vast conservative media bias. But right now, WHO FUCKING CARES.

I have a sneaking suspicion you're just feeling betrayed because normally left-wing (or quasi-left-wing) news outlets like MSNBC and CNN are reporting the war instead of expressing your raging distate of it.

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The Jays
03-20-2003, 06:16 PM
Well, what the fuck is the point of owning a TV if you can't let it form an opinion for you?

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Death Metal Moe
03-20-2003, 06:17 PM
Anyone who quotes 'The Village Voice' should be deported.

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ChickenHawk
03-20-2003, 06:21 PM
ChickenHawk, I don't think that the Village Voice is unbiased. I look for news from a variety of sources for just that reason. I suggest you do the same.
Too late.

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Death Metal Moe
03-20-2003, 06:23 PM
I looked for news in other places and got sick of the Liberal Bias. So I don't go there as much for "the other side" because I disagree with it.

And buzz words or not, I find FOX news "fair and balanced."

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silera
03-20-2003, 06:33 PM
Anyone who quotes 'The Village Voice' should be deported.

I read the Village Voice, and while it's obviously written with an agenda in mind, it's no less biased than any of the other publications out there.

I try, whenever possible, to visit the sites listed as sources from both pro-war and anti-war articles, to see for myself what is being quoted and in what context.

Watch out everyone! Tomorrow I finally get cable!!!!



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Death Metal Moe
03-20-2003, 06:41 PM
I'm just against Ignorance and blatent "anti-Americanism" for the sake of it.

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Death Metal Moe
03-20-2003, 06:53 PM
Did we just have a moment?

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douchebagsean
03-20-2003, 06:55 PM
ive taken all i can take and i cants take no more. enough of the silly shit. first and foremost whether or not u agree with the war its too late so do the only honorable thing and support our troops. take ur anger out on bush via the ballotbox in 2004. i honestly have had enough with the footdragging and im glad someone finally put their foot down and did something (as opposed to when clinton fired a few volleys to distract us of his sexual transgressions). god bless america that u knuckle heads can protest this war because if u were iraqis and u were protesting saddams methods ud be forced to watch the torture and possible raping of ur wife/sister/child. as for the conservative bias/liberal bias in the media...hello--thats why i buy two papers every morning...i never watch only one channel...i like to make my decisions and base them on a broad spectrum of opinions and facts..,opinions are important because they do give perspective and help to facilitate the flow of ideas...however one must get a variety of opinions and facts thus keeping oneself from becoming a tool

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A.J.
03-20-2003, 07:25 PM
take ur anger out on bush via the ballotbox in 2004.


Amen. But please read the directions on the ballot carefully lest we have a repeat of Florida.

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Death Metal Moe
03-20-2003, 07:29 PM
DeathMetalMoe for President in 2004


That's a reaction the ballot box would NEVER be expecting! Nicely done DouchebagSean.

You're not such a douche bag! Well, not that much. Maybe more of a "pouch" or "Small sack" of douche. A FANNY PACK prehapse.

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c-dub
03-20-2003, 08:05 PM
"But please read the directions on the ballot carefully lest we have a repeat of
Florida."

And even if you do, please don't worry that you are throwing away your vote -
Katherine Harris will do it for you.


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HBox
03-20-2003, 08:07 PM
Lets start the rally now...


ANYONE ELSE IN 2004!


They got my vote!

Bergalad
03-20-2003, 08:10 PM
ANYONE ELSE IN 2004!


They got my vote!
Sorry, but Saddam won't be around for you to support in 2004. Get it in while you can.

HBox
03-20-2003, 08:20 PM
Sorry, but Saddam won't be around for you to support in 2004.


DARN DARN DARN DARN DARN!! Well, there's always bouffant Hitler in North korea!

Death Metal Moe
03-20-2003, 08:27 PM
NICE Bergalad!

The Saddam Fan Club grows by LEAPS AND BOUNDS everyday in the UN and at home!

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Bergalad
03-20-2003, 08:29 PM
Well, there's always bouffant Hitler in North korea!
He at least has that great porn collection...

The Blowhard
03-20-2003, 08:53 PM
Always read all sides of the political spectrum and make your own decisions.
I enjoy Rush. I also listen to NPR. I read the Nation and Mother Jones, I also enjoy The National Review.
Think!

TooCute
03-20-2003, 09:02 PM
I don't knwo why, but I'm disturbed by the fact that we can watch war live on tv.

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Death Metal Moe
03-20-2003, 09:04 PM
I don't knwo why, but I'm disturbed by the fact that we can watch war live on tv.


I'm forced to agree with you Too Cute on a certian level.

I WANT to be informed, but it's like a sick reality show now. Reporters are right there with video phones and cameras. It's a little too "media driven."

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The Blowhard
03-20-2003, 09:06 PM
I don't knwo why, but I'm disturbed by the fact that we can watch war live on tv.



It's ghoulish and scary, and yet I still watch it.
God help us.

douchebagsean
03-20-2003, 09:21 PM
yay im a fannysack my life is complete

lets go mets!!!