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The Blowhard
03-23-2003, 10:41 PM
AMMAN, Jordan - A group of American anti-war demonstrators, part of a Japanese human-shield delegation, returned from Iraq yesterday with 14 hours of uncensored video, all shot without Iraqi government minders present, with Iraqis eager to tell of their welcome for American troops. Top Stories


The Rev. Kenneth Joseph, a young American pastor of the Assyrian Church of the East, said the trip to Iraq "had shocked me back to reality."
Some of the Iraqis he interviewed on camera, he said, "told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam [Hussein]'s bloody tyranny."
Mr. Joseph said the Iraqis convinced him that Saddam is "a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists.
"Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so the [torture masters] could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head."
The pastor and others making it across the border into Jordan tell harrowing stories about their journey. The only gasoline station between Baghdad and the border, a distance of 400 miles, was blown up by U.S. fighter-bombers. The station, in the one-camel village of Ramadi, had the only telephone booth on the road across the desert and a Jordanian, who had stopped to call his parents in Amman to let them know he was on his way home, was killed in the explosion.
The few taxi drivers in Baghdad willing to drive to the Jordanian border are charging $1,500 per passenger. Very few Iraqis can afford the fare, and only about 300 "third-country nationals," mostly Sudanese and Egyptians, have reached the border post since the "shock and awe" campaign began. Travelers have to struggle with their luggage across the last two miles on foot to Al Karama, the first Jordanian outpost. From there, they are taken by bus to a tent city at the Ruwaished refugee camp, 36 miles inside Jordan.
The Baghdad-Jordan highway was busy with commercial traffic before the beginning of the war, with some 700 tanker-trucks shuttling daily with part of the 12,000 tons of oil consumed by Jordan every day. All of it comes from Iraq at discounted prices under the U.N. oil-for-food program. Some 2,600 Jordanian and 1,500 Iraqi tankers have been involved in the overland oil traffic. Movement was down to 140 tankers the day before the bombing started. It stopped abruptly two days ago.
Jordan had made plans for a quick switch to tankers anchored off Aqaba. Qatar had pledged to replace whatever shortfall Jordan experienced.
Jordanians see one favorable omen. Every day, almost a thousand white storks arrive at a supermarket parking lot on one of Amman's seven hills, a pit stop on their way from Africa to their East European breeding grounds. About 100,000 storks are expected to stop here over the next month, numbers not seen in 10 years. Jordanians take this as a sign of ample rain and a good harvest ahead.
The difference between official and private views of some ranking Jordanian officials may be an omen, too. Officially, they condemn the war and say they are "deeply troubled" by the prospect of repercussions of the war on the region, and describe the situation as "critical."
Privately, they say, the war is developing a new opportunity for peace in the Middle East. Says one former prime minister: "If the U.S. can get a new Iraq to recognize Israel as a quid pro quo for a final Palestinian settlement, others will fall into place - Syria, Saudi Arabia, and the other Gulf states. Iran would then have to pull back its military support for Hezbollah."
Arnaud de Borchgrave is editor at large of The Washington Times and of United Press International. This dispatch was distributed by UPI.

TheMojoPin
03-23-2003, 10:49 PM
Good.

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King Imp
03-23-2003, 11:42 PM
This was beautiful Heckler. Absolutely beautiful!

Oh yeah, and us big bad American were just imagining things and making up all the atrocities perpetrated by Hussein and his regime.

Take that you tree hugging scumbags!

spoon
03-24-2003, 01:38 AM
Rude awakening? What the fuck were these people thinking? Smart trip. I'll bet they used Expedia. I here they decided to stop over in China to play with all the baby girls in dumpsters.

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reeshy
03-24-2003, 01:47 AM
This article is obviously a fabrication of Iraqi double agents supported by agent provocateurs put forth by the running dogs of the Imperialistic war mongers of the Bush clique. how could you, Heckler, be duped by these capitalistic paper dragons who only want to subject the workers of the world to their own brand of totalitarianism? The brave people of Saddam's Beautiful Iraq can only be grieviously hurt by such heidious propanganda!!!

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TheMojoPin
03-24-2003, 05:40 AM
Oh yeah, and us big bad American were just imagining things and making up all the atrocities perpetrated by Hussein and his regime.

Take that you tree hugging scumbags!

What?

Who the hell was arguing this?

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King Imp
03-24-2003, 01:39 PM
Quote:
Oh yeah, and us big bad American were just imagining things and making up all the atrocities perpetrated by Hussein and his regime.

Take that you tree hugging scumbags!



What?

Who the hell was arguing this?
Oh come on now. You can't honestly say there aren't people out there that don't believe this. I bet a bunch of people (the grossly misinformed ones) think we're attacking an innocent country and regime. Those are the ones I was directing that comment at. Not you or anyone on this board so don't get offended.

Then there are morons like one I saw on TV that made me want to reach through the set and break her fucking neck. She's out there screaming that we're over there killing Iraqi citizens. Shut up you uninformed liberal whore!
Never before have our strikes been so precise to deliberately avoid the innocent public. Will innocents get killed? Sure, it's a fact of war, but in no way are we going after them directly. We make every effort to hit specific targets. Do you think any other country would put that much time and effort into doing the same? I think not.

TheMojoPin
03-24-2003, 02:11 PM
Oh come on now. You can't honestly say there aren't people out there that don't believe this. I bet a bunch of people (the grossly misinformed ones) think we're attacking an innocent country and regime. Those are the ones I was directing that comment at. Not you or anyone on this board so don't get offended.

Yeah, but those people are in the EXTREME minority. You'd be hard-pressed, even in the middle of the protests, to find too many people who'd say Saddam is a good guy and should stay. It's just on the opposite end of the spectrum from people who are convinced Iraq was behind 9/11 and the anthrax mailings (Bill O'Reilly LOVES the latter theory...how are people that insane?!?)...

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The Blowhard
03-25-2003, 09:01 PM
Bill O'Reilly LOVES the latter theory...how are people that insane?


Bill O'Reilly is a closeted polyester wearing disco boy from the 70's. He admitted that he was a disco freak to Tim Russert in a recent interview. Listen to his radio show, he plays tons of disco.
Insane? Yes.

TheMojoPin
03-25-2003, 09:04 PM
Listen to his radio show, he plays tons of disco.

Since I usually fall asleep with WJFK on, I often wake up with his show on, and I was always baffled by all the disco bumpers...wow...

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