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angrymissy
03-24-2003, 06:58 AM
I'd been looking for this dossier for a few weeks now, I remembered reading it when it came out last year.

I wasn't sure about taking any action against Iraq before I read this report. I lean real far to the left on some issues, and real far to the right on others. What Saddam and his sons have done to their own people is absolutely disgusting, and I fully support going in there and taking him out, if for nothing else, to stop the disgusting atrocities that go on regularly in Iraq under Saddam's rule.

<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/120202_saddamdossier.pdf">Click here for British Dossier of Human Rights Violations and Torture in Iraq</a>

Here's a sample of the document:


A family, arrested in late 2000, were taken to two separate interrogation centres within Republican Guard facilities located along the road to Abu Ghraib. The husband was held in one centre whilst the wife and children were held at a women's facility. The husband and wife were interrogated under torture about the husband's sale of a vehicle which, the interrogators said, had been captured by Iraqi security forces during a raid on Iraqi oppositionists.

The interrogators said separately to both husband and wife that they would cease the torture if they signed confessions admitting to be collaborating with the oppositionists. They refused. The wife was stripped naked and cigarettes stubbed out on all parts of her body whenever she refused to implicate her husband. She was beaten and thrown around the interrogation room. Her children
were forced to watch the torture. She was eventually released, having been told that her husband would continue being tortured until she returned to confess. She was arrested again two weeks later and the same pattern of torture was repeated, leaving her a psychological wreck.

During his interrogation, the husband's arms were tied behind his back and he was then suspended in the air using a hook hung from the ceiling. This caused intense pain as his shoulder muscles and ligaments were torn. After a period, the interrogators entered the room and the husband was unhooked and placed in a chair in the middle of the room. From close range, he was then shot at with a pistol whenever he refused to agree to sign his confession. Sometimes shots were fired
which missed his body, at other times the pistol muzzle was placed against his fingers, toes or arms and fired so as to mutilate these areas. Over the following two weeks further interrogations occurred at intervals, following periods of food and water deprivation. Eventually the husband's and wife's wider family paid a bribe to an Iraqi Intelligence officer and both the husband and wife were released. They subsequently escaped from Iraq.

He maintained a private torture chamber, known as "al-Ghurfa al-Hamra" (the Red Room), disguised as an electricity installation, in a building on the banks of the Tigris
He personally executed dissidents in Basra during the uprising that followed the Gulf War
in March 1991. In one infamous incident of mass torture, Udayy Hussein ordered the national football team to be caned on the soles of their feet after losing a World Cup qualifying match. As a member of the National Security Council, he bears command responsibility for all crimes committed with the authority or acquiescence of that body.
(From INDICT and other sources)
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furie
03-24-2003, 07:08 AM
Lets not bicker and argue over who killed who. This is supposed to be a happy occassion.

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Teenweek
03-24-2003, 07:16 AM
Anyone read this weeks issue of Sports Illustrated. It kind of goes into sick detail of Uday Hussein torturing and killing Iraqi athletes who lose and the Olympic committee not doing a damn thing about it. It was a good artcle. An example a boxer who lost in the early rounds and was never seen again. Athletes tortured and than put in raw sewage to infect the wounds and putting taller athletes in small rooms where they cannot stand up straight and there is not enough room to sit down.

TooCute
03-24-2003, 07:31 AM
These kinds of human rights violations take place in MANY countries. Not just Iraq.

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angrymissy
03-24-2003, 07:33 AM
These kinds of human rights violations take place in MANY countries. Not just Iraq.


I understand that, I had just never seen it described in such detail before I read this document.

I believe that human rights violations in ANY country need to be dealt with, and I hope that one good thing that could come out of the war with Iraq would be an eventual end to the torture of innocent civilians.

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FiveB247
03-24-2003, 08:13 AM
Read all about the acocunts and injustices all over the world. Iraq is just one of the hundreds.

http://www.hrw.org

http://www.amnesty.org.





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Meatball
03-24-2003, 08:24 AM
[quote]The execution chamber deep in the bowels of al-Nihayyah (Palace of the End) was an ancient room that stank of blood, shit, and fear. Inside, a middle-aged man stood swaying and trembling. In 1979, Saddam Hussein arrested dozens of Iraqi politicians during his bid for absolute power. The public servant in the basement had been tortured for days, his fingernails plucked out with pliers.

The heavy iron door clanked open, and in walked a squad of Mukhabarat, Saddam's secret police. With them were two skinny teenagers trying to look tough as nails. Anyone moved to chuckle, however, would have been well advised to consider the two guns the boys were holding in front of them.

"Ustav, ustav!" exclaimed the guards, shouting "master" to the two adolescents. Suddenly, the prisoner knew the boys' identities. His stomach churned with dread. These were the sons of Saddam Hussein: Uday, 15, tall for his age, with bulged-out eyes and protruding teeth; and Qusay, 13, smaller, but the image of his father at the same age.

As an official read a list of crimes, the boys raised their guns and took aim. Before the politician could utter a word, their first shots slammed into his torso, throwing him against the wall. The police escort then drew their own weapons and fired. As dozens of bullets riddled the body, it jerked spastically. The boys kept firing until the body was nothing more than a bloody lump and some tatters of cloth.

Uday, glassy-eyed and giggling moronically, was transfixed by the mangled corpse and continued pulling the trigger on his empty gun. Qusay, eerily calm as if his pulse had not risen above a resting rate, turned to the guard next to him. He asked in a whisper, "Do you have any more bullets?"

The Lion and His Cubs
Saddam Hussein is our generation's Adolf Hitler. In the 22 years since he took total control of this ancient land of 22 million people, he's conducted a war with Iran, invaded Kuwait, and waged a genocidal campaign against his own people. Saddam's reign of terror, however, may be coming to a close.

Last year Asharq al-Awsata, an Arab newspaper, reported that the Iraqi leader is terminally ill with lymph cancer. Like Hitler, Saddam has killed every real or imagined rival. Who could possibly succeed one of the most feared men on earth?

The two men maneuvering to rule Iraq are virtually unknown outside the Middle East. They are the two brothers who underwent their bloody rite of passage more than 20 years ago. Uday ("you-die"), 37, and Qusay ("coo-sigh") 34, are scions of a criminal enterprise masquerading as government. In Iraq it's called the Issaba. In Sicily it's called the Mafia. Uday and Qusay are the sons of its don of dons.

Using exclusive interviews with former cohorts, Maxim has pieced together an inside portrait of the two men who are competing to rule Iraq. Their deadly, escalating battle for power may have catastrophic consequences-not just for the Iraqis but for every person on the planet. World leaders are just beginning to glean the truth. The sons of Saddam, they fear, may turn out to be far more dangerous than their notorious father.

The Boys From Tikrit
The roughly shorn sheep, its feet tied with cord, sensed what was coming. Its bleating turned into a continuous wail. Eight-year-old Uday glanced around the arid countryside, hoping the screams wouldn't alert the shepherd. Uday motioned to his playmate to grab hold of the sheep's head and twist to strangle the animal's cries.

First Uday made deep cuts in the tendons of the legs and along the back. He took his time with the genitals before disemboweling the sheep, slowly pulling out its intestines, watching the terror and pain in the animal's eyes. His technique had been improving. He could sometimes make the session last an hour before putting out the eyes and finally slashing the throat. Later he told friends that "the blood really interested me."

Tikrit, where Uday and Qusay were born, is 100 miles northwest of Baghdad, not far from Al Awja, the tiny village where Saddam was born in 1937. It is a forme

TooCute
03-24-2003, 08:48 AM
(a long post that was a quote of some other source)

We knows they're sick bastards already. It doesn't make many people feel any less uneasy about the war.

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03-24-2003, 10:08 AM
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DarkHippie
03-25-2003, 04:45 AM
What about Liberia (as an example)? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=515&ncid=723&e=1&u=/ap/20030325/ap_on_re_af/liberia_fighting

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