Swear words. Their origins and why?

[fluffernutter]

What is it about the word fuck or shit or piss or cunt or damn or any other swear word that makes it risque or considered a curse word?

Why was it not determined that a word like throw or dirt were not selected as curse words?

Was there a commitee way back when that just said that "fuck" sound nasty so we willd etermine it a curse word?

Horde King or anyone else who can fill me in on this I would be really interested in knowing.



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[HordeKing1]

The ancient order of the Knights of Standards and Practices deemed certain words to be so horrible that their mere utterance would warp our minds, cause cancer, heart failure and AIDS.

There is no satisfactory answer to your question. Fuck fuckety fuck fuck. What's the harm?

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[ADF]

Clearly, it's all arbitrary. There are always going to be certain words that are taboo for normal conversations. Still, who gives a fuck?

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[Reephdweller]

Is the origin of Fuck really that it's a acronym for For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge? I don't know if it is, but I've heard it explained that way.

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[Death Metal Moe]

Uhhhh. Broken link. Nevermind.

FUCK IT!

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

another acronym for FUCK is Fornification Under Consent of the King. dating back to medeival times when the King of a particular cuntry says it was ok to marry a particular person.

Kinda makes you think when the #1 rapper is white and the #1 golfer is black

[Johnny Fontane]

What is a motherfucker? Is that someone who fucks PTA mothers? And, if so, is that a bad thing?

Mr. Corleone is Johnny's Godfather. To the Italian people, that is a very religious, sacred, close relationship.

[Thebazile78]

Fluff, I think the best and most scholarly answer to your question would have to be found in the Oxford English Dictionary (OED).

The OED spans somewhere in the neighborhood of 25-30 volumes (I'm not really sure) and chronicles the usage-history of nearly every word in the English language. You get definitions, literary citations and etymology.

The print is small, the pages are thin, but I could spend a month in the reference section of the library just looking at the origins of any of the words you mentioned.

Any large research library (like the Archibald Stevens Alexander Library at Rutgers-New Brunswick) will have a copy in the REFERENCE section. Just ask the librarian where the OED is and they will help you out.


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[HordeKing1]

ADF has a good point in that some words are just taboo to some people. (Not that it makes a great deal of sense, but these words are something that the person associates with a topic that makes them uncomfortable.)

Some subjects that are considered taboo in society are finances and sex. I'm still surprised at how difficult a time some people have in talking about their money - particularly in family therapy. Ironically, the people who need to talk about it the most (the elderly) are often the most reluctant to discuss it. An early supportive environment built upon trust and security helps.

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[ShelleBink]

the other day a newscaster said "cunty" instead of "country" and i laughed

and i'm also still not allowed to say:
hell
shit
damn
fuck
ass
cunt

...and any others while at my house w/ my mom around. it sucks.

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[fluffernutter]

the other day a newscaster said "cunty" instead of "country" and i laughed


Ex: George Bush and Tony Blair have invaded Saddam Hussein's "cunty".

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History of the Word: FUCK!


Word History: The obscenity fuck is a very old word and has been considered shocking from the first, though it is seen in print much more often now than in the past. Its first known occurrence, in code because of its unacceptability, is in a poem composed in a mixture of Latin and English sometime before 1500. The poem, which satirizes the Carmelite friars of Cambridge, England, takes its title, "Flen flyys," from the first words of its opening line, "Flen, flyys, and freris," that is, "fleas, flies, and friars." The line that contains fuck reads "Non sunt in coeli, quia gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk." The Latin words "Non sunt in coeli, quia," mean "they [the friars] are not in heaven, since." The code "gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk" is easily broken by simply substituting the preceding letter in the alphabet, keeping in mind differences in the alphabet and in spelling between then and now: i was then used for both i and j; v was used for both u and v; and vv was used for w. This yields "fvccant [a fake Latin form] vvivys of heli." The whole thus reads in translation: "They are not in heaven because they fuck wives of Ely [a town near Cambridge]."


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[HordeKing1]

10 times in history fuck has been used without offending anyone:

10. "What the f___ was that?" - Mayor Of Hiroshima, 1945

9. "Look at all them f___ing Indians!" - Custer, 1877

8. "Any f___ing idiot could understand that." - Einstein, 1938

7. "It does so f___ing look like her!" - Picasso, 1926

6. "How the f___ did you work that out?" - Pythagoras, 126 BC

5. "You want WHAT on the f___ing ceiling?" - Michelangelo, 1566

4. "Where the f___ are we?" - Amelia Earhart, 1937

3. "Scattered f___ing showers....My ass!" - Noah, 4314 BC

2. "Aw c'mon. Who the f___'s going to find out?" - Bill Clinton,1999

1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this f___ing mad." - Osama bin Laden


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