Are ANY thoughts of suicide not a normal thing?

[Death Metal Moe]

I hope he's doing better this week, but the responses to Dynamite K's post made me think of this. Seeing the responses to him that they too have thought of suicide.

So is it normal? Or is ANY thought of offing yourself a sign of depression and/or other mental or emotional problems?

I for one thought about little else for a year of two in high school, but feel pretty normal now, and I never talked to anyone or got help.

So what of it?

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[TheMojoPin]

I've never honestly considered suicide for myself...thinking of it as a somewhat REAL possiblity, even the briefest second, would strike me as something being VERY wrong.

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OK.

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[JiZ]

I've tried it 3 times. I still have the letter I wrote in case I actually died. It still scares me when I read it and see the ink smeared from the tears and blood. I can't put anyone down for thinking about it or attempting it. I have seen people killed right in front of me and I was never bothered by it. I think part of the reason was that I had envy for the people that were dead. I know this sounds a bit much, but that was my life. Death and chaos. I have only my friends and family to thank for keeping me alive. The only feeling left that I need to work on is regret. Not because i'm alive, but because of the people that were hurt by my actions.

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[Meve]

like everything else, i think it depends on the person. I've thought about it many times but I'm a strong minded person and I suppressed the thoughts/feelings i had and moved on.

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[The Nature Boy]

This may be somewhat controversial, but what the hell. I don't condone, encourage, wish, or hope anyone commits suicide or any single person has a single, solitary suicidal thought in all their days. That said, my wish won't stop that from happening. Speaking from experience, I have had such thoughts. Never acted, never really came close to acting, but definate thoughts. LOTS OF THEM. And I feel like I"m such a different person for it. And I think I"m a BETTER person for it. This isn't to start a flame war, this is MY OPINION, but MY OPINION is that you can't really enjoy life without contemplating ending it at some point. I forget who said it, but it's been said, a life unexamined is not a life worth living. I don't think you can fully grasp the power of lifes gifts without knowing somewhere inside that you considered walking away from it all. Because it is all the sweeter, as if each day you've lived since that question of suicide is gravy, and you are in so many ways playing with the house's money.

I don't judge people who HAVEN'T considered suicide, and I don't think people are lesser beings for never considered suicide. But knowing people I know who've admitted to considering suicide, I feel like there is a greater appreciation of all things great and small. I guess it's not dissimilar to suriving a plane crash or some other calamity.

But I feel an instant kinship with people who have. It's a hellish road to go down, and very often, most often, it's a solitary trip that makes or breaks a person.

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[FUNKMAN]

there have been too many occassions where i am driving at around 70mph and had to fight the urge to just turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right. In my mind I have a curiosity as to what will happen, how many times will the car flip over, etc. For some reason "getting hurt" does not enter my mind...

this has happened when i am on a high floor of a building. We were on the 17th floor of a Condo in Ocean City Maryland and it had a balcony. I had to fight the urge to hurdle the rail. Again, in my mind i think i will be alright. I even plan my landing by rolling over on my shoulder and landing on my feet...

i would have to say that i do not like these thoughts...

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[erole]

thoughts of suicide is normal. contemplating your own mortality, allowing your own human fraility and weakness to manifest itself in those thoughts is normal.
i would think that sustained thoughts of suicide is bad. not being able to vocalize your feeling, problems and thoughts while contemplating suicide is bad. and taking actual steps to face your own demise is bad.

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[TooCute]

Damn it. This thread just made me think about suicide!

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[jocefus]

i think everyone has thought baout it at least once.. i was a pubic hair length away from going through with it, but then i thought of the effect it would have on my mom and other loved ones

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[A.J.]

I think about it sometimes -- but I refrain because with my luck I'd screw up and make myself a vegetable or parapalegic.

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Look I wasn't going to start a thread or anything but since we're talking candidly, is it o.k. for me to have thoughts of putting my foot in the microwave? And don't say you haven't thought about it.

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[Meatball]

i think its a common self-indulgent 'daydream' to imagine what life will be if we werent here. How our loved ones would handle it and react, what we'd say to them and leave them. Its allows us to take stock in what we mean to them and they to us.

that said - any active action to 'do' somthing about it is a whole other matter.
Just like somtimes i daydream about machine gunning down people i hate with a rusty nail gun...who hasnt??
the problem arises if and when i start looking on ebay for a "used rusty nail machine gun".



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[TheMojoPin]

Like Meatball said, I think people are confusing just thinking about the idea of suicide in general (Which EVERYONE does), and thinking of ever acting on the possibility...it's one thing to think "what if...?" and another to think "why not...?"

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[HordeKing1]

I don't think that many can honestly say that they haven't at least thought about suicide.

Thinking about suicide is very different from planning to commit suicide.

The former is not problematic, the second is an emergency situation. Going so far as to write a suicide note, or have a specific plan necessitates immediate intervention.

EDIT: There are some situations where suicide is a reasonable option. For example a person in terrible pain, with no hope of cure and a short life expectancy. In situations like those I support the right to die with dignity.

Suicide for depression however, is a permenant solution to a short-term problem.


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[Cookie]

sometimes I think of it. But anybody thinking of it should stop and cnsider this. It hurts! You'll be in violent tramatic pain. You might feel that. Why not go naturally in a hospital, where they can dope you with morphine and watch over you. Pain sucks!

[Cookie]

I forgot the o in consider.

[HordeKing1]

Addictive drugs such as morphine as a solution to suicidal thoughts only create additional problems. They numb the mind, a feeling often already experienced by depressed people.

Morphine is a not a solution.

If you think you will kill yourself get to an ER pronto.

If the thoughst are more generalized, go to a psychiatrist, psychologist or social worker.

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[MHasegawa]

Well for what it's worth, I am starting to feel a lot better now. I want to thank those who shared their thoughts and advice with me, and those who took time out of their days and nights to talk to me.

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[Bama]

I can't even imagine thinking that. It gives me the creeps just imagining myself imagining it.

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[Death Metal Moe]

I just flipped by a Seinfeld rerun and I'm thinking about killing myself again.

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[Wormwood]

When I drive my car sometimes I think about what would happen if I turned the steering wheel a little bit to far to the left or the right. Then I think its amazing how close we are to death everyday. Then I think "whats for dinner"

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[Reephdweller]

i only think of suicide when my boss comes into my office to explain how something works. Or when he tries to tell me that something i know will be bad, will be really good.

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