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[phixion]

batman vs capt america, but heres the catch no gadgets and no shield, pure hand to hand

i say steve rogers, my other 2 friends are saying bruce wayne.

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definately capt america he was stacked. Much bigger and stronger but venom would kill them both

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Batman would be nothing without his gadgets.

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[FelixDasGato]

Captain America wins hands down! Hell, hands behind his back and he still kicks Batmans ass.

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[WintersEmbers]

first off cap is enhanced, and is stronger and faster then a normal human due to the super soldier serum, if you take that away as well, batman would absolutely cripple him for this reason and this reason alone, bats will do anything to win in a fight, hed kick cap in the nuts if need be but hes not going down, so my money is on the Dark Knight

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[Rancor6666]

lets not even consider how much better, stonger, smarter, and cooler CaptinA is, lets just look at the bad guys they had to face.
Captin America- Nazi's, and Arabs the bombed the WTC, chek em out
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Batman- gay retards in costumes that include scarecrows, penguins, jokers, a groin grabingly gay "?" , a mad hatter, a vantriloquise with split personality, and many more, much gayer side kiks to go with these main homos.

hands down Captin A is the shit.

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[DarkHippie]

Cap has the physical advantage, but Batman is one of the most most tactically lethal characters ever. even without his gadgets, he'd find some way to even it out. i think Batman will pull it out.



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[Hoojibs]

I'd have to go with Batman too. Just for one reason. Think of the super serum like the venom used by Bane. Since Batman was able to defeat Bane, I think he can take Cap too.

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[Tall_James]

Normally I would say Captain America since he has the super-soldier serum coursing through his veins. However, Batman has shown that he will fight dirty in order to win.

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[East Side Dave]

Captain America never needed a sidekick. Fuck that Gotham City freak. He never danced with the devil by the pale moonlight.


What about Han Solo vs. Indiana Jones? (no weapons)

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Captain America never needed a sidekick

Are you kidding? Cap had the sidekick with THE gayest name outside of "Robin"...remember BUCKY? Yeah, feel the burn...plus, I think all the years he was running around with Rick Jones, The Falcon and Nomad (Yeah, the schmuck that took the name AFTER Cap dropped it) kinda helps to negate the "no sidekick" theory...

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[East Side Dave]

I considered those guys more as lackeys than sidekicks. I mean, Batman counted on Robin to save his ass a bunch of times. But those guys were just Capt. America hangers-on loooking for some handouts.



Indiana Jones.

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[Hoojibs]

I always sees Robin as well as Alfred as somewhat of a balance for Batman. Batman is too intense, brooding, dark....blah blah..everyone knows how Batman is. Robin keeps him leveled not letting him go over the edge. I think this was the whole thing behind when the 3rd Robin came around. Nightwing and Tim Drake thought Batman needed a Robin because he was getting out of control? Am I right? That was a while ago I could be wrong.

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[Knowledged_one]

Yeah but neither could beat the ultracoolness of Capt. James T. Kirk, ladies man and bad ass all in one

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Batman hands down. Good memory Mojo!

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[TheMojoPin]

I considered those guys more as lackeys than sidekicks.

Bucky? Bucky was Cap, jr., all the way. If it weren't for Bucky and his millitary-approved brand of homo-love saving Cap's ass, he wouldn't have lasted through the war to be forzen in that block of ice...

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[Gvac]

I don't think I have to tell you my thoughts on the subject.

They are my two favorite comic characters of all time, though. I always seemed to like the guys who weren't too "super" powerful.

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[furie]

Cap. But it would be a great fight.

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[TheMojoPin]

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But if there were ANY justice, the two of them would join forces and instead kill the hell out of Azrael and USAgent.

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[FMJeff]

Batman would be nothing without his gadgets.


I hate it when people who know nothing about comic books try to discuss it intelligently.

Aside from his intense physical training, Batman has trained with some of the finest martial arts instructors from around the world that the Wayne family fortune could buy.

lets not even consider how much better, stonger, smarter, and cooler


Better? What does that even mean? Stronger, maybe...but does strength really matter in a fight between two technical and tactical combatants? In Dark Knight Returns, Batman beat the shit out of an opponent who was stronger, faster, and younger than he was by taking out nerve centers and rendering his body useless limb by limb. Cap has military training, which is impressive, but I doubt he has the extensive martial arts knowledge that Batman has.

Smarter? Captain America? As hokey as the 60's TV show was, it still pretty true to the Dark Knight's detective abilities...a man well versed in many subjects of knowledge....Captain America is NOT smarter...

Cooler? Hey I have a big fucking A on my head. Ugh. Check out my little wings on my mask.

Horrible costume...


Batman EARNED his superhero status...Captain was GIVEN his through injection...thus...Batman is better.

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[phixion]

Batman EARNED his superhero status...Captain was GIVEN his through injection...thus...Batman is better.


how can u discredit a veteran of WW2? a man who went toe to toe with adolf hitler? bruce wayne isnt a veteran..hes a bored rich kid who didnt have to EARN a thing in his life. just sit there with that silver spoon in mouth. captain america was a weakling, a nobody who was willing to let scientists experiment on his body inorder to strengthen the US army...he was willing to face death in order to save his country...u cant discredit that.


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[furie]

ok ok ok
what about Wolverine against either Cap or Batman? But not both at the same time.

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[phixion]

what about Wolverine against either Cap or Batman? But not both at the same time.


im takin logan simply cuz he has amassed a lifetime's worth of knowldege and tactical skill where cap and bats are novices compared to wolvie. also wolvie lived in japan and refined his martial arts full time...bruce still had a company to run. plus wolvie is a former secret agent so he should have the same training as cap i would assume.

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[Rancor6666]

listen who actully remember bucky? is hes so great then why is he dead? and buckys corpse could kik robins ass. Robin wore short shorts and wings on his shoes someone jumed out of the closet at least bucky had pants. Captian A wins again

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WOlvie beats both there asses. Batman cant do shit, WOlvie is super strong, super sences, indestrucable skelton, uncharted regeneration ability, claws that fuk up everything, and hes a hardcore mother fuker. Wolvie took a shot gun blast ot the face, had his neck snaped like 5 times, been stabed, shot, electricuted, frozen, burned, and a deadly virus that killed everything b4 him and bounced back like nothing heppened. Batman easily gets trapped by homos who wait until he wakes up to try to kil him, has a gay sidekik in short shorts, and 100s of male stalkers obsessed with him all day every day(99% of his villians). Captin A would atleast put up a fight. but like every super hero wolvie goes up against he gainjs a respct for them and lets them live, but not before he kiks there ass.

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[phixion]

Batman cant do shit, WOlvie is super strong, super sences, indestrucable skelton, uncharted regeneration ability, claws that fuk up everything, and hes a hardcore mother fuker.


i think we are doin this Genosha style. no powers, no shield, no gadgets, just pure hand to hand.

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[furie]

listen who actully remember bucky? is hes so great then why is he dead? and buckys corpse could kik robins ass.


one of the robins died too. so what does that prove? I don't see your point.

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[FMJeff]

listen who actully remember bucky? is hes so great then why is he dead? and buckys corpse could kik robins ass. Robin wore short shorts and wings on his shoes someone jumed out of the closet at least bucky had pants. Captian A wins again


Never talk about comic books again. Your arguement is reprehensible.

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[phixion]

Never talk about comic books again. Your arguement is reprehensible.


ha ha ha classic.

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[Hoojibs]

I never read the issues of Wolverine versus Captain America. Great cover though. As opposed to Wolverine vs Batman?

Wolverine is a scrapper. He will fight til he wins. His beserker rage, which he tries to controll takes over and he becomes an animal. Along with his healing factor, and adamantium claws makes him a formidble foe.

Against Wolverine, Batman could try and take him out from a distance. Gas grenades even electrical batarangs may be able to stop him.
Wolverine has been knocked out with gas and electricity before.

But if he has to go toe to toe. THere are nerve endings Batman can hit. Also not too long ago, Punisher beat on Wolverine for a lil bit and that's just someone with military training and human. I think Batman would take out Wolverine but may have a few extra scars after.

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[phixion]

Wolverine is a scrapper. He will fight til he wins. His beserker rage, which he tries to controll takes over and he becomes an animal. Along with his healing factor, and adamantium claws makes him a formidble foe.

Against Wolverine, Batman could try and take him out from a distance. Gas grenades even electrical batarangs may be able to stop him.
Wolverine has been knocked out with gas and electricity before.

But if he has to go toe to toe. THere are nerve endings Batman can hit. Also not too long ago, Punisher beat on Wolverine for a lil bit and that's just someone with military training and human. I think Batman would take out Wolverine but may have a few extra scars after.


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[CaptClown]

Batman again. Since according to Marvel both Captain A and Wolverine have Upper limit human strength, which is the same as Olympic level athletes.

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[Geppetto]

how can u discredit a veteran of WW2? a man who went toe to toe with adolf hitler? bruce wayne isnt a veteran..hes a bored rich kid who didnt have to EARN a thing in his life.


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How and why did wolverine get pulled into this? He is a waste of ink.

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Now in that crappie TV show Batman depended on his gadgets. In the Comic book
Cap depends on his shield WAY more than Batman depends on his gadgets. Heck he
real does not even have gadgets. As for The Batman beating Bane so he can Beat
Cap. Makes no sense at all. I would love to pick Cap because he is one of my
favorites. While cap is a better fighter and stronger than Batman and he too finds the
weakness of his opponent the fact is Cap only has a small edge. I agree Batman will
fight dirty and win.............


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Captain America...

3 to 1 odds...

Unless the fight is held in Gotham City, then you are talking about even money...

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[CaptClown]

Batman has tricks he hasn't even pulled yet. Why not just find out the answer in that DC/Marvel crossover? I could tell you the answer but that would ruin it for you if you haven't already read it. A better contest would be between the Legion of Superheroes and their Marvel knock-offs the Sh'iar Praetorian Guard.

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[FMJeff]

Batman has tricks he hasn't even pulled yet. Why not just find out the answer in that DC/Marvel crossover? I could tell you the answer but that would ruin it for you if you haven't already read it. A better contest would be between the Legion of Superheroes and their Marvel knock-offs the Sh'iar Praetorian Guard.


ok for anyone who doubts Batman's ability to beat fucking ass, I refer you to his battles with Superman and the Predator, both of which he won.

SUPERMAN...and the PREDATOR.

Case fucking closed.

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Well, I'm glad <I>this</I> is being settled pretty well... :-)

My opinion? put the two in a ring, and say, "Fight"... I say Cap wins, I would imagine they're trained pretty equaly, but Wayne, afaik, is getting old, and wasn't his back broken once? I believe the Super soldier serum retards aging, and accelerates healing, as well as the increase in strength. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points.

However, put Rogers on one end of the city and Wayne on the other, have them find each other first, I give the edge to Batman, because he's just craftier, imo... He's more of a "hide in the shadows and sucker-punch from behind" than Cap...

And Rancor, please let the adults talk about which comic book super-hero can beat up who :-)

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[phixion]

My opinion? put the two in a ring, and say, "Fight"... I say Cap wins, I would imagine they're trained pretty equaly, but Wayne, afaik, is getting old, and wasn't his back broken once? I believe the Super soldier serum retards aging, and accelerates healing, as well as the increase in strength. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points.

However, put Rogers on one end of the city and Wayne on the other, have them find each other first, I give the edge to Batman, because he's just craftier, imo... He's more of a "hide in the shadows and sucker-punch from behind" than Cap...


i was thinkin in the middle of the dessert.

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[WintersEmbers]

phix, heres my question, is cap still affected by the serum in this argument or is he just a normal guy, cause to be quite honest, without the serum he doesnt have a prayer against bats.

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[phixion]

phix, heres my question, is cap still affected by the serum in this argument or is he just a normal guy, cause to be quite honest, without the serum he doesnt have a prayer against bats.


he is still affected by the serum just like batman is still affected by the wads of cash his bullet ridden parents left him. cuz if u take away cap's serum, then batman should actually have to get a job so then he couldnt do all that training. thats the way i see it.

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[WintersEmbers]

maybe i just dont wanna let this go, but i still think batman wins, solely because , with enough prep time, he can destroy anyone...and even on the fly he can hang with all the big guns dc has to offer, i think bats wins in the longest most drawn out battle ever, serum or not.

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Batman can kick anyone's ass.

ANYONE.

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