Easy Money?

[Furtherman]

Yesterday the boys had a discussion on the soldiers taking the money they found in Iraq.

I've talked about this with people and I was get either a "It's right" or "It's wrong".

Ron is for it. Rory is against it.

Personally, I would take a bundle. Just one stack of bills. Call it compensation. I wouldn't get greedy like the 12 million they tried to take (not too bright), but like Ron said, if there was $500 on Saddam's dresser, I'm pocketing it.

What do you think?




Enough with the picture signatures.

[RageCage]

I agree with Rory in that it isn't really the right thing to do, but if I was in the same situation, I would probably take the money. I can't blame those guys for doing something that they didn't think would hurt anyone.


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[furie]

Call it compensation.


you know what I call compensation? The $40k for college and salary you'd receive for being there. The deal you agreed to. If the President wants to give you a bonus, fine. but don't just take it upon yourself.

Just a bundle? why not bump it up to priceless art. You're not being greedy, greed is a relative term.

Hi. This is America. We don't loot and pillage.


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[A.J.]

From the Uniform Code of Military Justice:

899. ART. 99. MISBEHAVIOR BEFORE THE ENEMY
Any person subject to this chapter who before or in the presence of the enemy--
(1) runs away;
(2) shamefully abandons, surrenders, or delivers up any command, unit, place, or military property which it is his duty to defend;
(3) through disobedience, neglect, or intentional misconduct endangers the safety of any such command, unit, place, or military property;
(4) casts away his arms or ammunition;
(5) is guilty of cowardly conduct;
(6) quits his place of duty to plunder or pillage;
(7) causes false alarms in any command, unit, or place under control of the armed forces;
(8) willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or
(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle;
shall be punished by death or such punishment as a court-martial may direct.


903. ART. 103. CAPTURED OR ABANDONED PROPERTY
(a) All persons subject to this chapter will secure all public property taken from the enemy for the service of the United States, and shall give notice and turn over to the proper authority without delay all captured or abandoned property in their possession, custody, or control.
(b) Any person subject to this chapter who--
(1) fails to carry out the duties prescribed in subsection (a);
(2) buys, sells, trades, or in any way deals in or disposes of captured or abandoned property, whereby he receives or expects any profit, benefit, or a advantage to himself or another directly or indirectly connected with himself; or
(3) engages in looting or pillaging;
shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


908. ART. 108. MILITARY PROPERTY OF UNITED STATES-- LOSS, DAMAGE, DESTRUCTION, OR WRONGFUL DISPOSITION
Any person subject to this chapter who, without proper authority--
(1) sells or otherwise disposes of;
(2) willfully ore through neglect damages, destroys, or loses; or
(3) willfully or through neglect suffers to be lost, damaged, sold, or wrongfully disposed of;
any military property of the United States, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


921. ART. 121. LARCENY AND WRONGFUL APPROPRIATION
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who wrongfully takes, obtains, or withholds, by any means, from the possession of the owner or of any other person any money, personal property, or article of value of any kind--
(1) with intent permanently to deprive or defraud another person of the use and benefit of property or to appropriate it to his won use or the use of any person other than the owner, steals that property and is guilty of larceny; or
(2) with intent to temporarily to deprive or defraud another person of the use and benefit of property or to appropriate to his own use the use of any person other than the owner, is guilty of wrongful appropriation.
(b) Any person found guilty of larceny or wrongful appropriation shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

922. ART. 122. ROBBERY
Any person subject to this chapter who with intent to steal takes anything of value from the person or in the presence of another, against his will, by means of force or violence or fear of immediate or future injury to his person or property or to the person or property of a relative or member of his family or of anyone in his company at the time of the robbery, is guilty of robbery and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.


[quote]929. ART. 129. BURGLARY
Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent to commit an offense punishable under section 918-929 of this title (article 118-128), breaks and enters, in the nighttime, the dwelling house of another, is guilty of burglary and shall be punished as a

[Furtherman]

I call it compensation for fighting Bush's oil war.

And no, we don't loot. Only when we lose courtcases deemed racial and sport chamionships. (No, not all but it has been done).

Most of the kids over there come from poor familes who had little choice but to enlist. A little cash from a madman doesn't hurt.

Bumping it up to art and paintings? C'mon - they're hard to hide with your gear. Leave that up to certian newsmedia.




Enough with the picture signatures.

[RageCage]

We don't loot and pillage.
Since when?

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Kool and the mother fuckin gang.

[furie]

Since when?


I don't remember it ever being considered acceptable behavior for our military. I'm young, so do you remember a time?

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This message was edited by furie on 4-24-03 @ 11:37 AM

[Bill From Yorktown]

how about this though - picking up a stack of 100's and handing them out in the street?

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[TheMojoPin]

Soldiers taking a little here and there has always existed...it's expected loss, and you can't really stop guys tossing a few bills or items in their pockets. But 12 million? Even just A million? Just because it's dollars doesn't make it "our" money. These guys should get the full weight of the law down on them.

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