I am SICK of the South Park creators preaching their political ideas.

[Death Metal Moe]

Give it a REST you 2 fags.

OK. So I noticed it with their episode a couple of weeks ago when Cartman was trying to have a flashback to see what our founding fathers were living like. It was also the show they decided to preach to us about all the people who were anti or pro war in Iraq.

So their message that both sides of the argument have a place in our democracy wasn't a bad one. But Cartman sitting there listening to Benjamin Fraklin saying that America would set up this sneaky, calculated policy where we could protest a war and then fight it with no questions was insulting. I believe they used the old phrase "having your cake and eating it too." They suggested out founding fathers were only thinking of covering their asses when building the foundation of our free society. This is insulting.

Then last night they used their entire episode to push a little joke about the American Indians. They were pushing White People out of their homes just like Whites did to them, putting them on reservations. I understand this happened, but I don't need the sermon.

If this continues, I will abandon this cartoon. Stoned towels are great. People with ass faces are cool. Aliens, Jews, Whore, Chef. All cool.

KEEP YOUR PREACHING OUT OF IT!!

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[DarkHippie]

they've been doing this since season one. Just about everything in the show is politically charged.

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[Death Metal Moe]

Have they made an entire show's plot revolve around an agenda before? I ask not to trap you, but honestly. Have they? I might not have noticed.

I KONW they drop little hints and things here and there, but the shows were more about straight funny shit with no slant.

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[JerryTaker]

Is Somebody <I>offended?</I> Heavens no, pull it off the air! Take it off! Take it off!

If you can't handle someone else's opinion, go watch Benny Hinn or Pax TV...

This is no different that anything they've done before, except this time, <B>YOU</B> don't agree with it.


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[Death Metal Moe]

Unlike some in the censorship crowd, I DON'T want things I don't agree with to be pulled off the air.

I am just complaining that this seems like a new thing they're doing to dedicate a WHOLE EPISODE to a political agenda. If you can site older episodes that were TOTALLY dedicated to one political agenda please remind me. Even if you can, it doesn't matter. I don't like it.

I don't tune into South Park for the news, and I don't watch the news for Dick Jokes.

Is this so WRONG that I just want to laugh like I used to instead of having to digest their political jabs and jokes? It's like those "very Special" episodes of sitcoms.

Remember when The Fresh Prince's real dad came back and Will cried in Uncle Phil's arms at the end? Just make me LAUGH funny men! This is my problem with these new South Park episodes.

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[Spank Daddy]

go watch Benny Hinn

That's the funny English guy who runs around real fast with a little old man chasing half naked womenaround with big titties, right ??

[El Mudo]

go watch Benny Hinn


I like this Benny...

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[Death Metal Moe]

Benny Hinn? Is he better than Benny Hill?

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[TheGameHHH]

I think the shit they do is funny as hell, because most of the time it's how I feel too. Regardless, even if I don't agree with what they say (or the 4th grade characters that "preach" their views) it's still funny cause they do it in an interesting way.

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Use one of these...

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[Death Metal Moe]

Listen Jerry and Five, YOU are the ones trying to say I want South Park off. I want them to ENTERTAIN, not PREACH. If they continue to preach, I will tune out and find other entertainment for a half hour as I mourn the loss of a funny show.

As a person who enjoys O&A, Ron and Fez and Heavy, sometimes Satanic and Evil music I am the LAST person preaching censorship.

But I will not be silenced. You won't shut up, and neither will I, be it cartoons or Politics.

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[Reephdweller]

God Moe, just cause you don't like the show, now it's gotten be taken off the air? What about the rest of us?? We're not all that deep into censoring something because we don't agree with it. Sheesh!

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[JerryTaker]

Parker and stone have <I>always</I> given thier stance on all kinds of subjects in all of thier stuff, Baseketball was a satire of the entire state of professional sports in America.

And on South Park, They've tackled Pro-Choice, Reverse Racism, Stem Cell Research, Celebrities w/ political agendas, The Election Debacle in Florida, Sexual Harrasment, oversensitivity, Surpressed memories, Foster children, Child abductions and overprotection and The Phantom Menace....

...to name a few

and these have been the main story in thier respective episodes...


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reefdwella RULZ!

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[Death Metal Moe]

And on South Park, They've tackled Pro-Choice, Reverse Racism, Stem Cell Research, Celebrities w/ political agendas, The Election Debacle in Florida, Sexual Harrasment, oversensitivity, Surpressed memories, Foster children, Child abductions and overprotection and The Phantom Menace....


OK, thank you. I was waiting for a list to refresh my memory.

Let's take for example the episode of South Park where they were fighting about the racist South Park flag. At the end, instead of preaching to us, they joked about it by showing a flag with more than one race hanging a black man who now had a smily face.

As for the Stem Cell research episode, the whole thing was more of a joke and satire of Superman movies then a statement for or against Stem Cell research.

When they try to teach us THEIR lesson I feel preached to and kinda talked down to. I don't like it.

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[DarkHippie]

Have they made an entire show's plot revolve around an agenda before? I ask not to trap you, but honestly. Have they? I might not have noticed
how about the movie?

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[Death Metal Moe]

The movie's underlying theme was that war is a bad thing, which we all knew anyway. We ALL hate war, we just disagreed as of late on what the best way to get rid of Saddam was.

At the end, instead of preaching Satan threw Saddam into hell and Terrance and Phillip were ressurected. It was full of fun, jokes and well written songs. This doesn't really fit the new mold I've sited.

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[cheezeemee]

Use one of these...


It's called a remote control.

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[Contra]

i dont know moe, i can take you baking and knitting and saying you are hardcore, but this!

i dont know man, i just dont know...

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[FiveB247]

Moe I actually never said anything at all regarding censorship or anything you had mentioned. All I said or attempted to make the point of; if you don't like what they are saying or their ideas...don't watch. It's not that difficult.

[Wormwood]

Sorry Moe your way off. South Parks balanced yet still funny view of politics is a breath of fresh air and still one of the funiest shows on t.v.

P.S. get off of George W. Bush's nuts

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[Death Metal Moe]

no FIve, you said I should just switch the channel like I hadn't already. That also points to censorship in my view.

And I am not on Bush's nuts Wormwood. If agreeing with a person is being on their nuts, I guess that plants your mouth firmly on whoever's nuts you agree with. Kiss your Mother with that mouth? South Park is still funny through the political slants, usually. I just found these last few episodes I mentioned in my 1st post to be apart from that funnyness. If that is actually a word.

It seems a majority of you disagree with me. That's why I asked the question. It might just be me. I still don't fell you all have convinced me to anything other that the point I already agreed with to not watch a show I didn't like.

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[ADF]

That also eludes to censorship in my view.


Bob and weave! Elude that censorship!

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[Death Metal Moe]

All right wise ass. I guess I misspelled it. Did I mean Allude? My vocabulary is a little beyond my spelling ability.

At least I know you're reading my posts!

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[ADF]

You're trying, and that's half the battle. Yo, Joe.

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What's the other half Davey Dictionary?

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Remember when The Fresh Prince's real dad came back and Will cried in Uncle Phil's arms at the end?

"Why don't he want me, Man?"

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[DarkHippie]

The movie's underlying theme was that war is a bad thing, which we all knew anyway. We ALL hate war, we just disagreed as of late on what the best way to get rid of Saddam was.
Wow. that's what you think the theme of the south park movie was? Dude, at the end, freakin Kyle spells it out for you!

the theme is that we live in a "blaming society," where instead of taking responsibility for our actions, we put the blame on a scapegoat (as the mothers' did on Terrance and Phillip, and subsequently canada)

And btw: Parker and Stone are staunch republicans.

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[FiveB247]

the theme is that we live in a "blaming society," where instead of taking responsibility for our actions, we put the blame on a scapegoat (as the mothers' did on Terrance and Phillip, and subsequently canada)

Hey man, don't go preaching your view on the movie. If he didn't get that out of the movie, it's obviously the movie's fault...haha

Moe, Censorship doesn't mean you change the channel. Censorship refers to others deciding for you what can be on, off, acceptible or not. There's no such thing as self-censorship....that is simply taste, prefence and free will to choose.

[fatty]

i can understand moe not being a fan of it. i myself like the political and worldly commentary they put in their episodes, but i can see how others wouldn't.

they don't do it all the time but they do it a lot, they have a lot of great ideas they put in their episodes. but i definetley see how the longer the show goes on the more issues they tackle.

it's probably the way the shows going so i would say either get used to it or just stick with the simpsons.

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[JerryTaker]

As for the Stem Cell research episode, the whole thing was more of a joke and satire of Superman movies then a statement for or against Stem Cell research.


That ep was more of a "celebrities get more benefits/attention than other people / celebrity activist" episode, but it was mostly just silly... I was referring the one where Cartman was buying fetuses on the black market...

"You're breakin my balls..."

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Rubbing naked SARS infected chinese men on blankets is comedy gold.

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[Spoil-Sport]

I haven't seen it yet this year but Norman Lear (All In The Family, Maude, Mary Hartman, etc) is now writing episodes with them so there probably is a lot more political stuff.

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[Se7en]

Listen Jerry and Five, YOU are the ones trying to say I want South Park off. I want them to ENTERTAIN, not PREACH. If they continue to preach, I will tune out and find other entertainment for a half hour as I mourn the loss of a funny show.

The ironic thing?

This is the same attitude I've been taking with Ron & Fez for the past month, at least.

BTW, Fallon is completely right - overall I thought the last episode was pretty boring, but the naked SARS infected Chinese was fucking hysterical.

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[Doogie]

People this is South Park...dont take anything serious where one of the main characters is a retarded boy who constantly says "Timaayyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!" and has a cripple fight. Enjoy the show for what it is...comic genius.

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I am SICK of the South Park creators preaching their political ideas.


hold up so when cartmans sits there and makes fun of jews and spanish ppl ... thats cool? but let the CREATORS of the show have an idea about the world and they should shut the fuck up? hmmm

southpark has shown us gay alien sex, cartman giving ben affleck a handy, and those DAMN MONGOLIANS!!!!! so now u want them to stop because of their ideas........hey i dont agree with you but u have ur opinion. although u could just change the channel......i mean southpark does hafta give us something new........they stopped killing kenny.

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Regardless of the theme of that episode it was fucking hilarious nonetheless, just laugh and dont think about it. And not all the shows are like that, look at the hilariousd one about Taco Flavored Kisses, FUCKING HYSTERICAL, and towelies, EXCELLENT.

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i dont agree with you and this post saddens me...that is all, i need to go sulk

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[jax]

It's a great Show. Preachy smeachy who cares as long as its funny. The episode in question just wasn't that funny.

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You're trying, and that's half the battlei thought knowing was half the battle. could trying be the other half? is it possible that, together, knowing and trying comprise the entire battle? that doesn't seem right...

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Remember when The Fresh Prince's real dad came back and Will cried in Uncle Phil's arms at the end?

Wasn't the Fresh Prince's father Webster's uncle??

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Only if you aim low.

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This whole thing just makes me want to give a hearty India... I mean Native American laugh

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"Timaayyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!" and has a cripple fight




DUUUUDE where is my helmet?!?.....you promised me that you'd grab it off of some little retard. I'm so ashamed of you Doogie......so friggin ashamed!



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F it, i'm with Moe. I can't exactly get into the show anymore while i'm watching a poorly executed 30 minute political issues commercial. Just be funny, you do that really well.

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[Death Metal Moe]

Having seen the episode like 4 more times over the weekend, I think I might have been a little harder on that episode because it wasn't that funny.

I still don't want preaching from my entertainment all the time.

I also can't believe that after all the censorship talk, some moron STILL left a Change the Channel reply. Try READING the posts before yours chief.

I DESPISE Oprah, but don't want her off the air. That's America. There are a lot of people who keep her on the air, and they deserve to see a show they agree with and enjoy.

South Park still is a show I like, but if they continue down this road they have set out on, I will find my fun elsewhere.

That is the last time I explain myself. If you didn't get it after this 4th or 5th time you have a learning disability. Contact Horde King for advice on getting help.

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That is the last time I explain myself.

Wow, I remember when I was young and naive, too...

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[FiveB247]

Having seen the episode like 4 more times over the weekend, I think I might have been a little harder on that episode because it wasn't that funny.

Ahhh repetition.

Did you like the episode Moe...Moe replies: Yes...SARS is not dangerous. Now I must order some items that I noticed in commercials...haha


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Oh I'll always find time to bitch.


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[GeneralCartmanLee]

So their message that both sides of the argument have a place in our democracy wasn't a bad one. But Cartman sitting there listening to Benjamin Fraklin saying that America would set up this sneaky, calculated policy where we could protest a war and then fight it with no questions was insulting. I believe they used the old phrase "having your cake and eating it too." They suggested out founding fathers were only thinking of covering their asses when building the foundation of our free society. This is insulting.

Then last night they used their entire episode to push a little joke about the American Indians. They were pushing White People out of their homes just like Whites did to them, putting them on reservations. I understand this happened, but I don't need the sermon.

its america.. if you dont like it you could geeet out

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YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!

[FiveB247]

No...It's America, "I do what I want".

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