Your Musical Roots - What dictates your tastes?

[fluffernutter]

A bit longwinded but here goes....

I had a little conversation about this a few weeks back and it just got me thinking.

I figure this, during our formative years (for those of us who like and appreciate music) there is a DEFINING period. I think that period comes during the root of a lot of our influences, in High School. I realise that college is a higher level of influence but lets stick with High School for now.

During my 9th thru 12th Grades, I was into metal. First the Poison stemmed from my childhood liking of KISS and then from there progressivly heavier. Headbanger's Ball and (Philly's) 93WMMR's Rockers had me buying and borrowing to an extent whatever record or tape I could get a hold of. Something in my school had kids completely unwilling to let their CD's out for borrowing.

Seeing the various bloody images on T-Shirts had me asking Who? What? Where? In 4 years I was exposed to so much. I was then always looking for the most extreme. I thought I had the most extreme (when extreme things were cool mind you) with the Cannibal Corpse, Carcass, Obituary, Exhorder, Terrorizer and Napalm Death. Then came the first At Deaths Door compilation where we were introduced to Deicide. It scared me. Even more so when we got them for an interview for my Cable Access show and my friend got to Glen Bentons house for the interview. We had to edit out the upside-down cross scar. There was also the plethora of Preist's, Maiden's and Ryche's. Exodus', Vio-Lence's and Testaments.

There was also the discovery of punk (Misfits, Dead Kennedy's, Ramones) which was brought about by my interests on what influenced a lot of the above. I don't think a band or record went by without me digging some new band I never heard to my attention by observing what shirts were worn or who was on the thank you list. That was responsible for a lot.

Anyway that is where it all stemmed. My musical roots lie in METAL. I think it is becasue of that that some of the really wacked out shit like Orthelm, Lightning Bolt, Neon Hunk, Reversal of Man and CombatWoundedVetern all have that little apeal to me is because even though it is a LOT of organized noise, I hear the metal guitar solo influences in it. Strange.

After High School though I was introduced to the world of Indie and Alternative. The Sisters', Mary Chain's, Cure's, Neubauten's, Pumpkin's and Sonic Youth's of the world.

I expanded and experimented.

Today, bottom line, if it rocks me, I will buy it.

This may also bring about some understanding as to why there is some dislikes of certain genres and bands. Maybe it all DOES lie within what you were raised on.

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[WintersEmbers]

id have to say that my musical influence came from Classic Rock Stations, like WBAB and Q1043 at first i hated the stuff, but my step dad more or less bashed it into my head....i started listening to Pink Floyd alot which then led me to bands like Radiohead, and Homesick for Space....all the other stuff just came because of my love for music, anything that was recommended to me i would listen too, always trying new things, but i think my roots either lie in Classic Rock or 80's New Wave, which comes from my dad and my mom.

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[guttersnipe]

Excellent discussion topic.

The very first LP I bought (back in the days of vinyl, you
youngun's) was Chuck Mangione's "Feels So Good."
What does that say about me, I wonder? I was 12,
whaddaya want?

Anyway, the first couple of years of high school I
discovered the Beatles, Yes, and Pink Floyd. I still love
everything they ever did.

The second half of high school new wave hit. The
Police hit me like a ton of bricks. Then Duran Duran,
Flock of Seagulls, Kajagoogoo, Human League,
Depeche Mode. Next thing you know I cut off my nearly
butt length blonde hair and had a spiky short cut, and
was wearing polka dot mini skirts and leg warmers. (I
didn't escape the incredibly inane and insane
"assymetrical" hair cut craze in my college years,
either.)

I once wrote a paper on how bands like Pink Floyd and
the Beatles led to New Wave. Maybe I was trying to
justify to myself how I went from one extreme to
another.

I do know that punk was a reaction against Pink Floyd
and others like them. It was also a reaction against
disco. But I also still think that Disco and Punk had a
one night stand and the result of that was their love
child, New Wave.

I still can't get enough of 80s new wave or my first
three faves. But what I listen to now is so eclectic. My
big thing nowadays is trancy electronica. But my all
time favorite who shall never be replaced at the top of
my musical pyramid is my personal deity, Trent Reznor.

Trent and I were born less than a month apart, and I'm
guessing he followed some of the same crazy paths
through music that I did. That may be why I adore him
and his music so much.

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[Gvac]

This is an awesome topic, and one I think about quite often.

I grew up in a home where my mother would always listen to music, mostly stuff from her high school era, the 1950's. She's a huge Elvis and Doo-Wop fan, and I knew the words to all those "oldies" by the time I was 11. She'd also listen to the top 40 stations of the day (the '70's) so I guess that's where my appreciation of funk and even some disco comes from.

My dad, on the other hand, is a huge country and western fan. Most Sundays would find him in his workshop in our basement while Hank Williams (the original) was blasting from the turntable. If we were in the car, the radio would be tuned to 1050 WHN, which was the top NY country station of the time. I'd hear, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Marty Robbins, and all the greats, as well as the newer stars.

This blend of Rock and Roll and Country during my formative years probably led to my becoming totally enthralled by Lynyrd Skynyrd when I was in junior high. It was the perfect mix of both types of music, and I was crazy for them.

In high school, I started digging a little deeper and discovered blues. I started buying albums by John Lee Hooker, Elmore James, Muddy Waters and the like. It's also when I discovered punk, and was totally into The Clash, The Sex Pistols, and The Ramones. I was the only kid in high school who would walk into a record store and come out with a Waylon Jennings album, a Ramones album, and an Elmore James record.

My musical tastes remain schizophrenic to this day.

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[blakjeezis]

It's kind of obvious, but being from Liverpool, and having parents who grew up in the sixties, I was raised on the Beatles. But besides them, other influences are: The Everly Brothers, Queen, Dire Straits, Don Williams and Roy Orbison. I was also heavily influenced buy my older brother and sister's music. Eighties, English, type stuff: Elvis Costello, The Cure, The Smiths, Echo and the Bunnymen, Adam Ant, Madness, The Thompson Twins, The Communards, even cheese pop like Wham and Kajagoogoo. That is the music I remember from childhood. It's quite an ecelectic mix I suppose, and that probably explains my musical taste. These days, my tastes are all over the map. Of course I have my favorite bands, but there is no genre that I would say is my favorite.

I look for music that has an appealing melody, a solid beat, and good lyrics. I guess that's not necessarily a musical qualification, but meaningful and/or clever lyrics can really, really draw me into a song.

What's not explained by those influences is my love of rap. I'm not talking about the new, pop, Ludacris/Fabolous garbage hip-hop. I mean the early nineties East Coast, gritty, urban sound. Don't get me wrong, I love West Coast stuff too, "The Chronic" is obviously a masterpiece, seminal album and it all stemmed from there. West Coast is cool, laid back, chillin at a party kinda music. What I'm talking about is groups like Das Efx, Wu-Tang, and Redman. I started listening in the early nineties, right around the time of my high school rebellion period. I suppose that's what it was. I remember the first time I heard Cypress Hill's "Kill a Man" it was like an awakening. I said, "Wow, this is something that I can really piss my parents off with. I'll pretend to be black for a few years." Eventually, I wised up and realised that being black wasn't a good thing, so I put on pants that fit, turned my hat from the side back to the front of my head, let my shaved eyebrow lines grow back in, and popped in 'Master of Puppets'. Now my horizons are broadened and I listen to all types of music.

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[TheMojoPin]

Living in France.

Seriously.

As a kid up until about the age of 10, I had weird tastes in music...I begged my mom for the Beastie Boys' "License To Ill" when I was 7, was listening to The Police all the time thanks to my dad, but was also really into groups like Van Halen, Michael Jackson Duran Duran and Culture Club, since those were the groups ALWAYS played on the radio station at the millitary base I lived on in Panama. But then at the age of 10, in 1989, I moved to Paris, and the radio there was playing groups like The Cure, The Smiths, Depeche Mode and New Order nonstop, so I became VERY familiar with those sorts of groups at a very young age, which set up my love now of various punk, new wave, techno/electronica and Britpop...I was, and proudly so, a HUGE fan of MC Hammer when he came out, and I have no shame of it. The man entertained to no end, and started my undying love of almost all things hip-hop, which continues to this die. You may scoff now, but Hammer IS the reason there's so amny damn white kids buying hip-hop today.

I moved back to the states in the summer of '91, just in time to have my 12-yeard-old heard blown off by Nirvana, and so for the next three years I got caught up in the alterna-scene and all the bands that went along with that...in '94 I moved to Bangkok, and by the mid-90's, grunge was already dead elsewhere around the world, and the biggest English speaking music styles were Britpop and electronica, which I dove headfirst into, and still love to no end today. I mean, me in 1996 thought trip-hop was the future of music...silly me! The other thing that I noticed back in '94 was the continued love of boy bands across the world outside of America. All we had known was NKOTB, but overseas I couldn't ignore Take That or their ilk, like Boyzone. Foolishly, I thought this woud be something I'd leave behind...'96 was when The Spice Girls got big everywhere but America, and so did two unknown groups, N'Sync and The Backstreet Boys, who started their fanbase in Asia and mainland Europe...when I moved back here in '97, I figured I left all the bubblegum pop mess behind, but lo, it followed me over. I guess it infected me, SARS-style, and I inflicted it on an unsuspecting populace. Sorry. But remember, I had to go through the pop craze twice, dammit, TWICE...

So I guess the biggest factors to shaping my across the board musical taste was living overseas. It gave me so much more exposure to bands that are all but ignored here, so even today I usuaully read 4 or 5 Brit music mags a month to keep abreast of what's going on outside of the limited American radar...

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alot of influence came from having 3 older brothers: it got me into Grand Funk, Elton John, Aerosmith, ELP, and others... Footstompin Music(Caught In The Act), Funeral For A Friend, anything from Rocks, and remember being fascinated with the design and name of the album Brain Salad Surgery...
they also got me into Earth Wind and Fire, the Isely Brothers, Brass Construction, Rick James, Average White Band, and Parliament Funk...
and Disco, the Tramps, Strikers, Cameo, and others... my eldest brother was a Disco King and always hooked up with somebody, he brought me along sometimes and got me some blind dates once in awhile...
friends influenced me with Zep, Sabbath, the Who, Deep Purple, etc...

a friend who now is co-owner of a furniture store with the lead singer of the B-52's got me into Todd Rundgren, his early stuff with The Nazz and later stuff with Utopia and the B-52's...

other stuff I just picked up on the Radio like Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, INXS...

and my younger brother, who keeps up on all the current stuff introduces me to alot of new stuff that sounds good...

Mom added in country and the 50's doo-wop stuff...


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Uh. I'll make this as short as possible.

As a child my mother got me a record player very young and I was changing my own records very young too. It was all Disney songs and childrens shit. I remember Mousersize. All my favorite Disney characters doing exercise routines. FAB!

My mother also exposed me to a lot of 8 tracks she had. The OKLAHOMA! soundtrack was one of our favorites.

But actually I didn't get really into METAL until I was a Sophmore in High School.

The 1st tape I ever bought on my own was "Sex Packets" by Digital Underground. GREAT FUCKING ALBUM! Back when RAP wasn't about "bling-bling", Disrespecting and objectifying women and hating "whitey". I was really into a lot of Hip Hop and old school rap like Slick Rick. Smart, sleazy rap!

But I always like rock my mother had 1st exposed me to like Deep Purple and AEROSMITH! Aerosmith stuck with me. I remember getting AC/DC's Razor's Edge tape used from a buddy and wearing it out! It was GOLD!

As far as Metal, some buddies I met late in high school turned me onto Megadeth and Metallica. Then it went HARDER with Death, Suffocation and Carcass! The 1st Death Metal CD I EVER bought was "Heartwork" by Carcass. Still their best in my opinion.

It was also about '96 that I started playing in a band that makes it's own music, which is Death Metal also.

And just recently, within the last couple of years I also discovered a new love of mine, The Police. AMAZING! And weird shit like Van Morrison and evena Duke Ellington CD I enjoy.

I was VERY hard headeda bout music once I started in METAL. I thought all other music was SHIT for a few years. But now I've become a lot more open, and enjoy Alanis Morisette and Fiona Apple along with Dying Fetus and Lividity.

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My parents are ex-hippies, so i always listened to beatles, stones, and folk stuff like james taylor.

As i grew older, i got into alternative and grunge, but soon becan to listen to 3WS in pittsburgh, the oldie station.

At the time it played a lot of stuff like marvin gaye and sam cooke. 3WS also played a ton of soul music, and that i think was the biggest single influence.

Around middle school i got into more contemporary stuff--whatever modern rock was on in '97 '98 '99. Then I heard shit like limp bizkit and that horrible rap-rock.

That stuff made it more acceptable for me a whitie to listen to hip hop. Then it happened. I bought Jay-Z's Dynasty album, my first pure rap album.

With this I changed my friends (because they were total dicks about rap), and my cd collection. Soon i got a taste for classics like biggie and tupac and all the 80s stuff. I had already loved soul music r&b(the real kind, not R Kelly) and funk, and rap rekindled that.

I'd hear a sample from an oldie, and re-appreciate it. I also stumbled upon reggae, and i dont like all of it, but i really am beginning to get a taste for it.

I also still thuroughly enjoy classic rock, and WARW is one of my presets, although they do not come close to playing enough Aretha or james Brown.

If any of you know a station in DC that does play it, please let me know.


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[fluffernutter]

The 1st Death Metal CD I EVER bought was "Heartwork" by Carcass

Pardon the pun but I always thought of that record as their Swan Song. Their album Swan Song was very blah to me.

I was bred on Carcass with Reek and Symphonies.

How could you NOT love these covers:

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[jratt]

cool thread great job

well it all started with bands like GNR and Motley crew and such i was never into metalicca and still dont like them but mtv lead me to a band called helmet with to this day i think are the tightest band ever. i was 13 datting this punk girl that would put out with some oral and what not so her mom took us to my first show withc was helmet and mr.bungle at the allentown airport that was also my first taste of nazis and i still have an intense hatred for people who hate.well it all started there i got into agnostic front and murphys law minor threat the bad brains and all the old school hardcore by the time i was 15 i had been to at least 50 shows and was starting to make friends with bands and was realy getting into the tuff guy hardcore like bulldoze and such.I was a viloent kid not just slam dancing but i was a head hunter and always got into fights and shit. brings me to about 20 years old where i started to listen to old punk like romones misfits iggypop and such i was still angry at the world so i was still a headhunter....then the most amazing thing happened to me....i meet my wife who was a cathlic school girl a cheerleader who started datting me this punk with all these piercings and such...over time i was not so angry i started to get into ska alot and by the age of 21 i had stopped drinking and doing drugs witch i had a seriuos problem with speed.these days i am looking for something new and at the same times listenning to the music that started all the music i listen to such as beach boys, old james brown , check berry ect ect ect i am digging the transplants , e-town concrete(get there new albulm it fucking is amazing and is only 7.99) mystacil , the toasters. music has steered my life in many directions but in the end i have learned about respect life and death and love in everything i have been involved with and will bring my daughter up on a wide verity of music right now at 8months old she is loving beachboys toasters 311 and all the childrens songs you could think of

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[A.J.]

Nice thread Fluff!

The first music I remember listening to was Top40 radio from the 70s when I was a little kid. That's why I still love stuff like The Spinners as well as one-hit wonders like Redbone ("Come and Get Your Love").

My parents also let me have their old records. I grew up on their Beatles, Beach Boys, and Stones 45s and albums and picked up their love of Motown.

The first album I ever bought was The Doors in 1979 when I was in 4th grade. Apocolpyse Now came out that year and "The End" was all over the place.

But it was junior high/high school when I really limited my tastes. It was then that I started to play guitar so I listened ONLY to the guys that influenced me: Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Ritchie Blackmore.

I was actually pretty snobby about music in high school: I wouldn't listen to anything new because it was overplayed by radio or MTV. It wasn't until I got to college that I would give anything new a chance.

It's funny: all the stuff they play on WLIR, I hated when it came out and now I like it...probably because it reminds me of high school and college.

I still hate rap and country though.

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Living in France.

Seriously.

This explains SO MUCH about you now to me.

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My parents grew up in the relatively deep South (Augusta, GA), their formative years being in the 50s. So I got too cultural tastes in music: 50s rock (from my dad), and country music (early stuff to current) from my mom.

I somehow wound up with an interest predominantly in metal & industrial. Go figure. Maybe I was just sick of Elvis and Hank Williams.

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[fluffernutter]

my first show withc was helmet and mr.bungle at the allentown airport that was also my first taste of nazis

HOME! Home Sweet Home!

My first show was here and I distinctly remember missing the Mr. Bungle show becasue I was not into them just yet. Helmet I have NEVER seen. The Nazi's were scary. There was nothing like the wall they made during the Biohazard set when we went to interview Kreator and Morgoth. "Why is the whole pit area so open?" we wondered. Then the feeling and impressions of steel toes in our backs answered our question.

Fucking racist Nazi filth. That is what destroyed the Music Hall and eventually closed it.



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[jratt]

Fucking racist Nazi filth. That is what destroyed the Music Hall and eventually closed it.


Now if i remeber correctly i think it was that show or the misfits show around that time that the nazis put some metal head throw the front window that had to have been 20 feet long but that was a wierd place it was in a stip mall it looked like an old supermarket...now when i meet anyone from A-town i ask them if there are still skins in that town and there all like yo hommie watcha saying bro we just keep'n it real now dont go axing any mo questions dog

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[Wormwood]

The Nazi's were scary. There was nothing like the wall they made during the Biohazard set when we went to interview Kreator and Morgoth. "Why is the whole pit area so open?" we wondered. Then the feeling and impressions of steel toes in our backs answered our question.

Not to defend these people but what you saw WAS a proper pit, you need room to move, jump and kick without beating the crap out of the person next to you. There's nothing worse than going to a show with a bunch of 17 year old kids who's parents just dropped them off and they're in the pit taking runs at you like its football practice. I've been to plenty of shows and even the Nazi skins follow the common "pit courtesy" of respecting a persons personal space and if someone falls down near you you would stop and help them up.



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[jratt]

Not to defend these people but what you saw WAS a proper pit, you need room to move, jump and kick without beating the crap out of the person next to you. There's nothing worse than going to a show with a bunch of 17 year old kids who's parents just dropped them off and they're in the pit taking runs at you like its football practice. I've been to plenty of shows and even the Nazi skins follow the common "pit courtesy" of respecting a persons personal space and if someone falls down near you you would stop and help them up.



not to sound like a dick but.............what the fuck are you talking about i have been in the hardcore "scene" for 10 + years and let me lay it down for you
1. back in the day when there where alot of nazies at a show a clear pit meant you better run cause those nazies used to out number the sharp 3 to 1.
2. you are right it is all about respect correction it used to be all about respect nowa days all these kids are ether nu-metal or hot topic kids that have now idea what hardcore is realy all about and the message it used to have
3. I have been to at least 200 shows and when you feel and there where nazies there you no doubt where in for a stomping i remeber seeing sick of it all and there where better than 75 nazies that just bloodied everyone but there own.
4. if you 17 and getting dropped off by mommie then you need to got check your self in at the get cool clinqe cause your a loser.
how old are you buddy. what where you into like going to ozzfest and shit and seeing slipnot and limp dick pod and all that shit what where some of your fav bands did you know any bands did you have a crew

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[TheMojoPin]

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[fluffernutter]

I've been to plenty of shows and even the Nazi skins follow the common "pit courtesy" of respecting a persons personal space and if someone falls down near you you would stop and help them up.

I completely understand the pit courtesy and the "let the kids dance" mentallity. These guys made the wall and we were just unaware. All the A-town nazi's ever had in mnd back then was to fuck shit up and hurt people. Why? What was the point?

This was one of my first experiences with Nazi's of that calliber at a show. Hey, one has got to learn sometime and then I sure did. What was I, 17 at best. Now, Nazi's just scare the shit out of me more than anyone else. We were at Social Distortion back last year and during "Don't Drag Me Down" sure enough a group of them all started pushing and shoving and causing a stir. Why? For who? For what? Violence like this is what killed the HC scene years ago and is sure to do it again. And Social D is FAR from hardcore. They were just there to start shit. Fuckers.

Nowadays, my body has become so worn from many a harcore show I just stay back and watch the Youth of Today dance. I figure it is only right. I had my time and now it is time for them to have theirs.

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[jratt]

Violence like this is what killed the HC scene years ago and is sure to do it again.

It already has killed it I think everyone is out to kill.but whatever you saw a nazi i havent seen one of them in years I thought steve irwin hunted and trapped them all and put them in his zoo

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[Wormwood]

EDIT - Just a reminder: You're free to debate and disagree with one another, but keep it respectful. Insults and personal attacks won't be tolerated. Pretend you're discussing this on live TV in prime time and use appropriate language.

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This message was edited by Gvac on 5-5-03 @ 8:07 PM

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When I was a kid I liked the Beatles and the Monkees back in the late 60's early 70's. I had 2 older brothers and they got me into Aerosmith, Elton John, America, CSN and then in the mid 70's my brother brought home KISS alive. I was a big Kiss fan and had all of their albums until Kiss Alive 2. Then my brother brought home Ramones Rockets to Russia and I was hooked on the Ramones.

Then in 78 we moved to DC and I was into the whole British invasion - Stones, Beatles, Kinks, the Who, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, the Clash, and the Pistols. In High school I got into some rock a billy - the Blasters, Stray Cats, and Robert Gordon.

My senior year 83 I was hooked onto New Wave music Police, Pretenders, Missing Persons, Joe Jackson, Squeeze, and other bands of the day.

While in college I listened to the Cure, Smiths, Billy Idol, Inxs, and 50's and 60s rock and roll, and motown music.

I never got into hair bands or rap music and today I generally listen to older bands than the new music that is out there today. I don't like Hip Hop or new metal or todays dance music.

We need everyone to keep spreading the word about Ron and Fez. Get you friends, coworkers, hell anyone you talk to get them to listen.