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monsterone
06-06-2003, 10:34 PM
i'm listening again to the 6.04 show again, specifically the mikey d stage mother part.

both of my parents come from large irish families (7/8 siblings on each side). the old theory: to have a gang of chilldren, in the hope 1 would become successful and support the parents in old age. i've heard the same thing applied to large black/ spanish families these days.

today, families are much smaller, 1-2 kids. and i don't know if parents lived vicariously through their kids previously. but it seems to be a trend, ie. american juniors.

now is this theory of the favorite child in a big family being applied to the single child of a smaller family? atleast in the bigger family, the favorite can shift; there are options. but in the smaller family, like mikey said, "i like to see her do her best." and like becomes the expectation to do nothing less than the best.

HordeKing1
06-06-2003, 11:12 PM
Actually, families used to have many children b/c often some of them would die. The more they had, the greater he odds of them growing to adulthood and producing for the family.

Margaret Sanger changed all that.

Now, large family size is tied to poverty and lack of education, with the poorest and least educated families (with the lowest income) having the greatest number of kids.

In a small family of 2 kids, each kid typically feels that the other is more beloved by the parents.

Expecting your child to do her best is not the same thing as demanding that your child fulfill your dreams. Nor does it imply an unrealistic expectation of what the word "best" means. For some it may be phsyisist, for another it may be janitor. One person may be smarter than the other, but neither is better than the other. (Remember Brave New World? We need our delta's in addition to our Alpha's and Beta's.)

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TooCute
06-07-2003, 06:58 AM
Could have something to do with the Catholic church too.

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HordeKing1
06-07-2003, 09:08 PM
The Catholic church has always been the biggest opponents of birth control. Interestingly the Protestants and Jews were among the first to accept them - or at least the early forms of them - pessaries (diaphrams).

Some religions or factions within religions still have wacky restrictions against condom use - comparing it to "the ultimate sin" (no, not murder) - masturbation.

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TooCute
06-08-2003, 01:23 AM
Ehh, leave it to you to take all the fun out of my wacky picture! :)

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SatCam
06-08-2003, 02:04 PM
hah, I have 2 brothers and 3 sisters. The Brady Bunch!

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