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HBox
06-12-2003, 05:38 PM
U.S. Threatens Blocking NATO Spending (http://www.msnbc.com/news/925700.asp?0cv=CB10)

Before the war we criticized France for blocking NATO from providing Turkey with military support. We said they were using NATO just to try and piss us off. Now we are dragging NATO into a squabble we have with Belgium. Is there a difference here?

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CaptClown
06-12-2003, 05:50 PM
Just give them back Jean-Claude Van Damme!

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Bergalad
06-12-2003, 06:22 PM
Is there a difference here?
Of course there is. France et. al. were blocking sending military aid requested by a fellow NATO member, which was in violation of the NATO Charter. We are threatening (meaning haven't blocked yet) to not give money for a new building (not vital to anything) and keeping our own people out of Belguim for meetings. A massive difference, if you couldn't tell. Why? Because of the Belgium law that allows anyone to sue anyone else for war crimes. If Gen Franks goes to NATO HQ, he could be picked up by the local cops on a murder charge levelled against him by a wacky Iraqi. It's the same thing as the row we had over the World Court and their powers. It's insane. How you could compare the two I have no idea.
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06-12-2003, 06:32 PM
Hypocracy or not?


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reeshy
06-12-2003, 06:34 PM
Oh, Moe!!!!

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HBox
06-12-2003, 06:37 PM
How you could compare the two I have no idea.


The issue is not whether or not acting against Belgium is justified. What does NATO have to do with anything? We have a problem with Belgium, and we are using NATO to stick it to them, just like France did to us.

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Bergalad
06-12-2003, 06:42 PM
What does NATO have to do with anything?

Um...NATO HQ is in Brussels, Belguim. Get it now?
FiveB247
06-12-2003, 06:55 PM
A good book (even though I don't completely agree with all of it) regarding the differences that lie between the US and European nations is "Of Paradise and Power " by Robert Kagan. You can get a good understanding of some of the geo-political aspects of the current issues that argue questioned by European nations while the US proceeds for unilateralism.

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Se7en
06-12-2003, 08:53 PM
It's the same thing as the row we had over the World Court and their powers.

Ah, the World Court. Clinton had enough sense to know what a bad idea that was, and I thank him for it.

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FiveB247
06-12-2003, 09:18 PM
World Court and the US....why go out of your way to hold yourself accountable for the same actions you readily blame and hold others too? The US holds about the same validity to international law and institutions that the nations they regularly deem 'threats' and 'rogues'.

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DarkHippie
06-13-2003, 05:43 AM
When I read the title I thought this was going to be about Bush criticizing Israel for retailiating against terrorist attacks :blush:

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furie
06-13-2003, 06:56 AM
I don't think it's hypocritical. the issues are completly diffrent. the fact that NATO's invlved is incidental.

and i agree with you hippie, that's what I thought this thread would be about too.

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phixion
06-13-2003, 10:03 AM
When I read the title I thought this was going to be about Bush criticizing Israel for retailiating against terrorist attacks


it should have been.

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FiveB247
06-13-2003, 11:11 AM
Which would have been hypocritical? The US complaining to Israel for aggressively seeking terrorists and in the process killing many civilians as well? Or the US complaining to Israel for attacking, yet using all US funded and supplied military equipment?

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furie
06-13-2003, 11:16 AM
the first one

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Recyclerz
06-13-2003, 11:50 AM
Even as a commie-symp liberal and knee-jerk W. distruster, I think the Administration is right on this one. The potential for political revenge using the Belgian courts under that over-reaching law (that apparently they're keeping) is too dangerous to have US officials traipsing in and out all the time, potentially being subject to arrest. Just because Brussels snookered the rest of Europe into making it their new "capital", doesn't mean we have to play.

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And as to Belgium overall, OK, they make a nice waffle but doesn't one Belgian = half a Frenchman?



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furie
06-13-2003, 11:54 AM
you're forgetting their beer. Belgium, regardless of its politics, makes the best beer in the world.

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FiveB247
06-13-2003, 12:21 PM
Did someone say Belgium?

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El Mudo
06-14-2003, 01:46 PM
Textyou're forgetting their beer. Belgium, regardless of its politics, makes the best beer in the world.


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high fly
06-17-2003, 09:49 AM
Them Belgians loves their french fries too....

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