If b&w are not colors but shades, what is grey??

[MHasegawa]

Since there wasn't enough room in the topic title bar, I had to shorten black and white to "B & W" but you guys get the message.

I'm just looking for a straight answer, keep the smart-ass posts somewhere else.

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[Snoogans]

white is a color. grey is a shade of white as is black. black is just a dark shade of white, but white is considered the color

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[Aggie]

The complementary colors (cyan, yellow, and magenta) are sometimes alternatively referred to as the subtractive primaries. This is because each one can be formed by subtracting one of the primary additives (red, green, and blue) from white light. For example, yellow light is seen when all blue light is removed from white light, magenta when green is removed, and cyan when red is removed. Consequently, when all three of the subtractive primary colors are combined, all of the additive primary colors are subtracted from white light, which results in black, the absence of all color.


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This message was edited by Aggie on 7-11-03 @ 12:42 PM

[Snoogans]

at least i was right

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[FMJeff]

at least i was right

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gray is a hue no?

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[Snoogans]

i just meant about white being the color. i forgot what a hue is exactly but now that you say it it sounds familiar, it prob basically mean shade of white in a way cause thats what it is


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[Dave Faz]

Black and white are not shades. Black is the lack of color (all light being absorbed), white is all colors of the spectrum (a reflection of light). Gray technically is a color because it is a mix of other colors (then there are shades of gray).

From what I've seen gray really doesn't happen in nature. It appears that way because we know the color "gray" but if you look at natural things we consider gray, it is more of a tone of another color.

Example slate: we think gray but usually it varies between a blue and a brown.

Gray can also be considered the area in your conscience that allows you to look at snuff films or video tape your sister-in-law showering without her knowledge (soorry I had to do it)

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[StupidGirlllll]

grey is balck & white mixed together...

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[Dave Faz]

gray is a hue no?

Yes it is, see

hue :
n.
The property of colors by which they can be perceived as ranging from red through yellow, green, and blue, as determined by the dominant wavelength of the light.
A particular gradation of color; a shade or tint.
Color: all the hues of the rainbow.
Appearance; aspect: a man of somber hue.


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[FollowThisLogic]

Thinking about it in the terms of a program like Photoshop, grey is made from equal values of red, green, and blue - except for 0,0,0 (black) and 255,255,255 (white).

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[HordeKing1]

Great site AGGIE.

Black is the absence of color
White is all colors combined.

It would seem therefore that any shade of color is more closely related to white than to black.

(Of course, the caveat to that is that our early ancestors were all black. White was just an adaptation).

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[Dave Faz]

That's what I said, but then I answered the original questions.

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[MHasegawa]

Wow, that was friggin confusing! But thanks for the info everybody, that's been gnawing on my brain for a few days.

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[SatCam]

isnt grey inbetween white and black, therefore not making it a color?

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[Death Metal Moe]

I'm just looking for a straight answer, keep the smart-ass posts somewhere else.


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[ToddEVF]

i'll go with t-shirt logic on this one

Grey is a dingy white

grey is a faded black

this making black a filthy white, and white a bleached black



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[Tall_James]

If b&w are not colors but shades, what is grey??

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[TooCute]

The initial premise of this question was incorrect, but anyway...

This is very simple.

1. Everything except black is a 'color'. That includes white. That includes grey. A given color is composed of its hue, saturation, and brightness.

2. The "hue" of color - like red or green or blue; think of the hue adjustment on your tv and what it does (it changes the hues of greys also, right? Go try and see) - depends on which light wavelengths are actually being reflected by an object. An object that reflects all light wavelengths in equal proprtions is going to appear white or "pure" grey. If it reflects more wavelengths in the red part of the spectrum than any other, it will appear some variant of red.

3. How rich the color you see is (saturation) - is it a very deep purple, or is it a sort of faded out greyish purple - depends on the ratio of wavelengths being reflected (just like the hue does). For example, let's say that there are two objects. For one, 90% of the light being reflected is in the red range, and the other 10% is equal proportions of all other colors. For the other, 50% of the light is in the red range, and 50% is an equal proportion of the others. The first object will appear very red compared to the second, which will appear dingier and less vibrant. At NO saturation (all wavelengths are reflected in equal proportions) what you have is a pure grey (with very little saturation, you will still perceive grey, but it will have a bit of a hue - a shade of color - to it) - or white, if you're at maximum brightness (see next).

4. The 'brightness' - how much light is actually reflected - determines how light a color is. At absolutely no brightness, you have black. At maximum brightness (and all weavelengths being reflected equallly) you have white.


Therefore what you can see is that you can create various 'shades' of grey by having zero saturation (that would be all wavelengths being reflected in equal proportions) and varying brightnesses (from dark to light grey). If you want dark blueish "slate" greys or a light, dingy "yellow city snow" grey, you just have adjust the saturation of the hue you want to achieve.

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[HordeKing1]

Of course, we don't see in all spectrums and the atmosphere reflects particular wavelengths making the sky appear blue for example. Mars has an apparant red atmosphere as different wavelenghts are reflected by the composition of the atmosphere. There is a quick experiment to show this, namely that the light we see is all white. I wrote about it in another post but can't find it now.

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[HordeKing1]

Then stop staring at the mirrror.

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[The Chairman]

Of course, we don't see in all spectrums and the atmosphere reflects particular wavelengths making the sky appear blue for example. Mars has an apparant red atmosphere as different wavelenghts are reflected by the composition of the atmosphere. There is a quick experiment to show this, namely that the light we see is all white. I wrote about it in another post but can't find it now.

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[Death Metal Moe]

What's so funny Chairman. I don't see a joke.

I want to laugh too. Come on.

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