Knicks trade Sprewell for.....

[HBox]

ESPN is reporting that the Knicks gave traded Latrell Sprewell in a 4 team trade and are getting in return....... Keith Van Horn! HA HA! Sucks to be a Knick fan, YET AGAIN!

Sprewell goes to the T'Wolves, Glenn Robinson to the Sixers, and Terrell Brandon to the Hawks.

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Details Here (http://msn.espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0722/1584275.html)

Thank goodness being a Sixers fan, we get rid of that tripe Van Horn. Because of another collosal Philadelphia blunder trade when we got Von Hayes who was supposed to be GREAT back in the 80's, Keith Van Horn became known as Keith Von Hayes. I don't recall Van Horn was ever great though.

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[Johnny Fontane]

What a joke. Unbelievable. It only makes sense if Sprewell is about to be charged with rape or something.

On the bright side, I guess the Sprewell bobbleheads will be selling for half price.

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[Heavy]

I care nothing about the NBA, but I dug Spree. Nice job fuckos

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[mdr55]

Keith Van Horn is a good player. I don't know why he gets ragged on the way he does. Oh wait, I know, cause of Kenyon "I didn't show up for the last 2 games when my team could of won the championship" Martin. Whose laughing now, punkass Martin.

[McNabbShouldDie]

This is fucking unbeleiveable. I have fucking had it with Dolan and Layden. This is completely FUCKING INSANE! How can you be so damn stupid to get rid of LATRELL SPEWELL and get KEITH MOTHER FUCKING VAN HORN?!

I cant put anger and disapproval into words right now. And it just so happens that Joe Beningo is on vacation this week, so I cant tell you guys to tune into him tonight. I wouldve LOVED to hear what he had to say about this completely fucking stupid trade.

Just when you thought the Knicks could be an OK team(Houston, Spree, Lampe, Thomas, Sweetney, Eisley wouldve been a nice starting/backup lineup eh?) they Jim Dolan-it up and make this trade. Un fucking beleiveable.


Keith Van Horn is a good player.

Have you EVER seen a game Van Horn took part in? Watch one of his games and then talk to me, numbnuts.

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[Clark Kent]

I've eated steak that's tougher than that pansy Van Horn. He's just another in a line of mistakes that the Knicks have made over the past 10 years. Screw the Knicks and screw Layden.

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[mikeyboy]

we got Von Hayes


That's a name I haven't heard in a loooong time.

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[phixion]

i watching espn when this story broke and i was disgusted. i mean they are willing to let andre miller and lamar odom just walk away. and odom is dying to b a knick. i mean come on, whens the last time the knicks had a hometown hero? anthony mason? and wat about speedy claxton, he's about to sign with the warriors, and he more than proved himself in the finals. but instead we get goddamn van horn. possibly the biggest bust ever. i hope the nba lets p diddy buy the knicks. i bet he would be a better owner.

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[mdr55]

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Have you EVER seen a game Van Horn took part in? Watch one of his games and then talk to me, numbnuts.

The NETS would have never NEVER been to the Finals the first time if it wasn't for him. RJ was still a rookie, Kittles was Mr. 50/50 still and KMart wasn't established yet. Funny how some NETS fan still blame Van Horn for losing to the Spurs. Oppsss....my bat that was Kenyon.

[TheKnicks23]

Oh god, just change my name now.

During the Knicks hideous last season the only thing that made me watch was Sprewell. He was a great player and fun to watch. Now he's being replaced by a lanky piece of crap.

This STINKS.

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[mdr55]

Good damn....when the NETS traded Marbury for Kidd (during the time he beat up his wife).....I recall listening on the radio how many NET fans and such stated that the NETS made a bad trade, how one fan called in an shared that he was going to not renew their season tix package because "the energy and excitement that Marbury brought to the court". It's not like Spewell is playing like he was 2 years ago. He's on the downside of his career. Besides he's a former "choke" artist. But hey, that don't make you a bad person.

[McNabbShouldDie]

The NETS would have never NEVER been to the Finals the first time if it wasn't for him.


Christ dude. No wait, your right, it was Van Horn's greatness that bought them to the finals and not Jason Kidd's MVP type year. NICE CALL DUMBASS! I'd like to nominate you, over both Mike and the Mad Dog, as the LEAST knowledgable basketball fan in the world.

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[HBox]

The NETS would have never NEVER been to the Finals the first time if it wasn't for him.

Bullshit. He had one good game the whole goddamned playoffs, and that was Game 5 on the first round against the Pacers. And even then, he disappeared in overtime.

He's been as soft as a gummy bear since Jayson Williams left and he had no one to stick up for him. Marbury ate him for breakfast on a daily basis and fucked him up for the rest of his career.

Did you see any Sixers playoff games this year? I thought his choke job in the finals was bad, then this years playoffs came around. He S-U-C-K-E-D. H-A-R-D. The whole team was basically begging him to shoot everytime he touched the ball and he did nothing. In their elimination game he took 4 shots. FOUR SHOTS! He only averaged 7 the whole Detroit series. He averaged 13 a game in the regular season, 9 a game in the playoffs.

He's of no use when you really need him, so really, does he have any use at all. He's a fucking pussy. End of story.

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[McNabbShouldDie]

Good damn....when the NETS traded Marbury for Kidd (during the time he beat up his wife).....I recall listening on the radio how many NET fans and such stated that the NETS made a bad trade, how one fan called in an shared that he was going to not renew their season tix package because "the energy and excitement that Marbury brought to the court". It's not like Spewell is playing like he was 2 years ago. He's on the downside of his career. Besides he's a former "choke" artist.


Now youre saying that Van Horn is on the same level as JASON KIDD?! And Spree on the downside of his career is still better then Van Horn. Van Horn is a complete nothing. Now go back to sucking Dolan's dick you moron.

And that fact that Spree choked his coach 5 or 6 years ago has NOTHING to do with anything in this trade so whats your point in bringing it up?

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[phixion]

van horn sucks. hes the most inconsistant piece of crap ever. he did nothing for the nets. he did nothing for the sixers. did u watch the playoffs this year? if he played well, then the sixers would have played the nets in the eastern finals. its really sad that the knicks were stupid enough to act like they wanted him.

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[mdr55]

I never said that Van Horn was on the same level as Jason Kidd (You're jumping to conclusions). All I'm saying is let's wait and see what happens with this trade. It's not like the KNICKS have been in the post-season recently. What the KNICKS should of done was follow what the SPURS did a couple of years ago by TANKING their games to get the #1 draft pick (which turned out to be Duncan).

When the NETS where bad, Van Horn was the only one that made t.v.people pay attention to the NETS. (Before they started getting Marbury- Kidd, etc.). Cuz of all that "Great white hype" stuff. Hmm......maybe that's why the KNICKS got him. Marketing.

[phixion]

maybe that's why the KNICKS got him. Marketing.


please tell me ur joking. cuz van horn has proven that for every good game he has, he has 20 bad ones. theres no such thing as marketing in that. and if ppl want to watch white folk play good basketball, they can go to dallas, or sacramento.



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[McNabbShouldDie]

It's not like the KNICKS have been in the post-season recently.

Yea ya know what youre right. By getting Van Horn theyre definetly going to be much closer to making the playoffs. Van Horn is definetly a step up for the Knicks.

When the NETS where bad, Van Horn was the only one that made t.v.people pay attention to the NETS.

And do you know what kind of attention Van Horn bought for the Nets? NEGATIVE! People talked about the Nets and Van Horn and how much they sucked and that was the only TV time the Nets got.

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The real question is:

Can this Van Horn guy choke a mean coach?

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[phixion]

Yea ya know what youre right. By getting Van Horn theyre definetly going to be much closer to making the playoffs. Van Horn is definetly a step up for the Knicks.


ha ha classic. next time jeff redoes the site u should tell him to have a sarcasm text.

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[extracheese]

You guys are oversimplifying things. Basketball is BIG business. and the people who own and run the Knicks are used to running multi-million dollar corporations. Therefore i dont think anyone said " Van Horn is better than Sprewel". They arent idiots. Clearly there are behind the scenes issues going on. We dont know who Sprewel pissed off on the team, or in managment. Not everything hits the papers. I dont know what the reason is for this trade, but NO one believes that its a simple swap to improve the performance of this team on paper.

[phixion]

You guys are oversimplifying things.


how? we want teh knicks to win. period. i dont care about the PR reasons for this trade, and if layden is thinking PR before victory then he shouldve gone and not spree. i dont have a problem getting rid of spree. i have a problem with his replacement. instead of someone like odom, miller, or claxton, players that the fans are more than willing to gamble on, the knicks have given us a definite dissapointment. so much so, that his playing awful isnt a dissapointment it is what is expected.

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[McNabbShouldDie]

Cheese, what the fuck are you talking about? Yes, Layden and Dolan both probably said "Van Horn is much more likely to improve our chance to win a championship." And you know why? Theyre fucking morons. Neither knows how to run or manage a team. I dont like putting down Layden because I think he would be a much better GM if he didnt have that sack of shit Dolan as an owner, but he needs to stop being such a tool. And neither the Rangers nor the Knicks will ever win a championship while Dolan is running things. He is the worst owner in all of sports and this is yet another trade that proves it.

And stop trying to make it seem like there is such a big fight "behind the scenes." There's not. I guarantee you Spree didnt piss a damn person off in management. He was a casualty of a horrible management, as are the fans of the Knicks.

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Fuckin' stupid Knicks.

How about a trade for a guy who knows how to play FUCKING DEFENSE.

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[extracheese]

There is NO WAY layden and Dolan think Van Horn is better than Sprewell.. NO ONE DOES..Do you really think they are that stupid?? Dont you think that if they could have gotten odem miller or claxton NOW ..they would have? those guys are off teh table and Van Horn was all they were able to get. I dont know WHY They did this..but i DO know they know more about it than ANY of you do ( or myself). We are sitting in our homes reading the NY POST. This is all Layden does all day is study the game. I wont believe he said " Hey! lets trade Spree for VH".

I just believe that there are dozens of meeting with LOTS of excecutives before a deal like this gets done. Too much money is involved for the knicks simply to send a good player packing for a crappy one. The fact that it DID get done means that something is up.

[Death Metal Moe]

They should have traded him for a better team name.

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[Teenweek]

Van Horn is a poor and white Allan Houston. A soft player who occassionally will score some points. Not one fucking player on this team has a heart anymore. And mdr you might be the dumbest basketball fan I have ever seen. Everybody and their mother said it was a steal for the Nets when they got Kidd for Marbury.

And kenyon Martin with one leg and one arm is a better player than Van Horn. He annihilated the Celtics. he made Antoine Walker his personal bitch. I forgot did he have the flu or food poisoning for game 5 against the Spurs.

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[FatTony]

Keith Van Horn is a good player. I don't know why he gets ragged on the way he does.

Maybe he gets ragged on because he is soft and can't take someone voicing their opinion on him not stepping up in big games.

Oh wait, I know, cause of Kenyon "I didn't show up for the last 2 games when my team could of won the championship" Martin. Whose laughing now, punkass Martin.


Who's laughing now? I believe Kenyon might still be laughing as his team has gotten to the NBA Finals in back to back years and the Nets have only gotten stronger by resigning Kidd and signing Zo. Whereas Van Horn is now on a severly hurting Knicks team with no one playing their natural position but their 100 Million Dollar man Houston.

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[McNabbShouldDie]

extracheese, are you retarded? You're talking like those people who beleive theres a shadow government. And Dolan does think Van Horn is a better player then Spree or if he didnt, why would he pick up Van Horn's longer, more expensive contract? He thinks Van Horn is better then Spree because he doesnt know how to run a team and he knows ZERO about basketball. HE IS A MORON! Get it through your head and dont post in here until you put together some intelligent reason together why you think Dolan/Layden made this trade.

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[RF Godfather]

Let's go Nets.

I'm happy I don't cheer for you guys. Layden and Cheney stink... I have no idea why they are sooo in love with the Utah Connection (Eisley, Anderson, Van Horn). Awful.

You should become the Mets and rebuild (although salary cap crap screws you guys for another 3-4 years).

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