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Se7en
07-30-2003, 08:31 AM
I found this pretty interesting.

I apologize in advance for the length.


[quote]Selling the story of failure
Brent Bozell

July 30, 2003


In a recent newspaper profile, CNN anchor Aaron Brown is captured trying to be witty as he cobbles together his "Newsnight" show. He asks his co-workers, "So, what the hell are we going to sell here?"

There's an easy answer if you watch television: failure.

For most of the post-war period, the networks have sold us failure. The details change here and there, but the pitch remains the same. Failure to find weapons of mass destruction. Failure to work with do-nothings at the United Nations. Failure to restore water and electricity supplies even as saboteurs seek to undo every good deed. Failure to anticipate that snipers would be paid to shoot our soldiers in the neck while they buy a soda. Failure to create Iraqi democracy out of thin air within two weeks. Failure to keep 16 dubious words out of the State of the Union address. Failure to nab Saddam or his odious sons.

But what happens when one of these failures turns upside down into a success, as in killing Uday and Qusay? Easy. More failures. Failure to capture the sons alive for their intelligence value. Failure to understand that Iraqis need to see the corpses. Failure to understand Muslims don't like to see corpses preserved. Eleanor Clift even suggested the failure to keep Saddam's sons alive in order to cover up the failure to find weapons of mass destruction -- failure squared.

The ideology of failure makes journalism so easy and carefree. When yesterday's media beef (we can't kill the sons) totally contradicts today's (we shouldn't have killed the sons), that's OK. Coherence isn't required. Building a daily soundtrack of doom is the objective. Since the "major fighting" ended, the media have tried to turn the world upside down. In the daily episode of self-fulfilling prophecy, reporters like CBS's Joie Chen proclaim that as soldiers die "day by day" in Iraq, "the concerns, and the doubts, of many of the folks back home grow."

Joie Chen should try visiting the troops. E-mails home from soldiers in Baghdad paint an almost entirely different picture than what the networks are offering. One Green Beret's e-mail (he asks for anonymity) about the unreality of the staged news from Iraq is hotly making the Internet rounds. In raw language, he laments being unable to touch "those taunting bags of gas that scream in (soldiers') faces and riot on cue when they spot a cameraman from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us. Some do. But the vast majority don't."

This soldier, who says he's spent time "baby-sitting the pukes" from TV networks, also maintains that the more Iraqis see that our soldiers don't start any violence, and try to be friendly and compassionate to children and the elderly, the more their hostility dissolves. "I saw a bunch of 19-year-olds from the 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis."

When some enemy combatants rounded up women and children as human shields, the soldiers negotiated their release. When a young girl was discovered thrown down the stairs after the standoff, "the G.I.s called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem in that neighborhood since. How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, ever get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada."

The soldier's missive is long, bitter and instructive. He is stunned that the American press is so hostile to the U.S. mission. He oughtn't be. This is the American media at its most typical.

Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard has just returned from Baghdad, where he found "Most Iraqis are overjoyed about their liberation. The American troops I spoke with, even those from units that have suffered postwar

TheMojoPin
07-30-2003, 08:55 AM
Hasn't this always been the case?

It's not "Bush-bashing" or "Iraq-baiting."

It's what the media does. Sensationalize the violent/shocking/frustrating/failures because then you have "news" that people "HAVE TO WATCH!!!"

You don't keep viewers if you keep reporting good news and that everything is hunk-dory...so you have to keep it "dramatic".

Is that what you were trying to show here? Because if so, yes, I've considered that the case for a long time, and I totally agree with you. If you're trying to say this is a new thing and targeted mostly at Bush and his actions, well, I'd say you were wrong. It's been this way for as long as I can remember.

And what's with the thread title? Does the e-mail get a free pass because of who it's from? Shit, I don't trust THAT guy anymore than I would trust one of the damn reporters. They're ALL suspect because they ALL have agendas.

Let me suggest these books...

"Compassion Fatigue" (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2TS49CZAA8&isbn=0415920973&itm=5)

"The Culture of Fear" (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2TS49CZAA8&isbn=0465014909&itm=1)

"It Ain't Necessarily So" (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2TS49CZAA8&isbn=0142001465&itm=2)

"Media Unlimited" (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2TS49CZAA8&isbn=0805072837&itm=1)

"Media Virus!" (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2TS49CZAA8&isbn=0345397746&itm=3)

"Coercion" (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2TS49CZAA8&isbn=157322829X&itm=2)

And here's one just for kicks, but still makes excellent points...

"What Liberal Media?" (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2TS49CZAA8&isbn=0465001769&itm=1)

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Bergalad
07-30-2003, 02:09 PM
The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC.

Aaron Brown was the news anchor at KING-5 TV when I was growing up. He's a retard. The supposed email from a Green Beret is of course faked, since no soldier would call another soldier "GI". And of course, he didn't mention FOX. I hate propaganda like this, especially since it is attributed to a soldier.

Yerdaddy
07-30-2003, 02:27 PM
I don't know about network news because I don't watch it. My opinion has always been that it is substantively worthless. But this Bozel clown is lumping the entire media together with a couple of anecdotes to try to support a claim that the media is devoted to negative stories about Iraq and general "Bush-bashing." As for the premise of this whole exercise in media-bashing, the White House has a massive compilation of positive quotes and anecdotes collected from the mainstream media. ( <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/iraq/20030729-5.html" target="_blank">Liberation Upd@te</a> ) Oops! I guess the media can't be lumped together into a single generalization.

As for this:
How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, ever get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada
I've been reading about US soldiers treating Iraqis well from the start of this thing. Oddy enough the Washington Post today published an OP/ED by an Army major in Kirkuk, allowing him to get out some of the same criticisms of the media that the soldier's email does, and provide some of the soldiers' positive interactions with Iraqis that your editorialist and soldier claim don't get into the press ever. ( <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A219-2003Jul29.html" target="_blank">'A Little Better Each Day'</a> ) I've read about the guys playing soccer with kids, handing out their own MREs, tolerating people screaming in their faces, retraining fire while under attack to avoid civilians, etc. There was nothing unique in that soldier's email. He just happens to have bought into the ideological rhetoric of opportunistic zealots like this editorialist.

As for the failures in Iraq, someone better tell the Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee because yesterday they all told Paul Wolfowitz that they are concearned that the administration either had an insufficient plan for transition in Iraq, (or no plan at all), and that the administration is still not giving the Congress and the American public the full story of what it's plan is for rebuilding Iraq and getting out soldiers out of harm's way. THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE PISSED ABOUT! That's what makes their job harder! The fact that the administration FAILED to properly plan for the post-war phase makes the job of our soldiers harder and more dangerous. And the fact that the administration STILL HASN'T RELEASED A PLAN, should piss the entire fucking country off! But, I guess that's not going to happen with deference to pre-existing ideologies and their adherents in charge of so many minds in this country.

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TheMojoPin
07-30-2003, 03:09 PM
Aaron Brown

He always struck me as the creepy, too-nice uncle you always tried to stay away from at the family reunions.

Give me a goddamn newscaster. Just as much as I don't want the jackals on Fox, I don't want some sleepy-voiced weirdo trying to get me to "feel" the news each night. Ech.

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Se7en
07-31-2003, 12:58 PM
Hasn't this always been the case?

It's not "Bush-bashing" or "Iraq-baiting."

It's what the media does. Sensationalize the violent/shocking/frustrating/failures because then you have "news" that people "HAVE TO WATCH!!!"

You don't keep viewers if you keep reporting good news and that everything is hunk-dory...so you have to keep it "dramatic".

Is that what you were trying to show here? Because if so, yes, I've considered that the case for a long time, and I totally agree with you.

Yes, it is.

I am not attributing any "liberal bias" because ALL of the networks focus on the negative - including the "conservative" ones like Fox.

And I know, they do it because this type of thing sells. Everyone has a morbid curiousity with tragedy.

BUT....and here is where it does get a little political......the focus on the negative has had a direct effect upon Bush's poll numbers. There's been a lot in the news lately, but Bush has been particularly hit hard in the polls because of the reports of resistance in Iraq.

I don't attribute that to anyone's political agenda, though. My point is: we get all the bad shit, but we don't hear near as much about the good things being done. I, personally, WANT to hear more about the good things we're doing for the people in Iraq. I don't want to have to scower the newspaper's back pages to find it.

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TheMojoPin
07-31-2003, 01:02 PM
I don't want to have to scower the newspaper's back pages to find it.

Exactly.

You and yerdaddy are both right. "Good" stuff is happening all the time and it IS reported...just not very often and not with the forced drama of the negative stuff.

But seriously, check out a couple of those books if you get a chance. They really help wade through the media "clutter" we get blasted with these days...

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El Mudo
07-31-2003, 02:39 PM
You and yerdaddy are both right. "Good" stuff is happening all the time and it IS reported...just not very often and not with the forced drama of the negative stuff.


That's exactly what sports news has become these days to elaborate on your point Mojo. Every night on "Sportscenter" they're leading off with the Kobe case or the Dennehy situation. You never hear much of how athletes do wonderful things for their
communities, but when they screw up...look out...

I guess "bad" news is more entertaining, which is a damned sad situation

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