Remember 9/11 and the month or so after?

[keithy_19]

Do you remember, right after 9/11, when everyone was friendly and patriotic? Why the hell isn't it that way now? Nothing has changed, we're still under attack. I'm sick of hearing politics when it comes to defending our nation. Over 3,000 people died that day. I'm sure a lot of you knew someone who died or was affected. It's just sick to know we've gone back to the way it was before 9/11.

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[mdr55]

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[Melrapuo]

A week after it happened I was talkin' to my uncle and he said "Things will never be the same" and I disagreed with him, saying that we will probably go back to the way we were beforehand. He told me that I wasn't right.

But sadly, I was.

We may act like we aren't patriotic or friendly or anything always, but we have changed. We were all nice to each other during the blackout. It's not that we don't care anymore or have forgotten. We're just trying to get along with our lives.

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[keithy_19]

I live in Jersey, less then an hour to NYC, my dad works 5 blocks from the Trade Centers

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[Johnny Fontane]

I remember going home on the subway...all the shell shocked faces...a guy talking about how he saw people jumping from the Towers.

When I caught the bus at the GWB Bus Station, the buses drove into New Jersey on the opposite side of the bridge (the inbound side).

The thing that spooks me is that the planes were racing down the Hudson River at about the same time I was crossing the bridge between 8:30 & 9:00 that morning. I didn't see anything, but obviously the planes were not far away. I read that the terrorists were instructed to follow the water to the Towers.

My father worked in the WTC until 1991. He told me about a friend who died, and how he remembered when his friend brought his son to work, and that he was a good boy...and when I told my father that I found a picture of his friend in the paper, he got mad - he thought I was joking, and he got very angry.

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[TheMojoPin]

Do you remember, right after 9/11, when everyone was friendly and patriotic? Why the hell isn't it that way now? Nothing has changed, we're still under attack. I'm sick of hearing politics when it comes to defending our nation.

I don't understand what you want here.

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[monsterone]

i think we've returned to some sense of living normally, day to day. but honestly our world views, both as a nation and in most cases, has drastically changed in the last 2 years. were you expecting human nature to change?

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[ChickenHawk]

I was in a daze for like 4 or 5 weeks after. There was a pretty long period of time where I was still living with an eerie feeling. It wasn't like the kinda thing where you can wake up the next day and just shrug it off. It was depressing for a LONG time, and for sure life changing.

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[FUNKMAN]

i try to treat people with respect all the time so not much has changed for me. i just try to be careful and pay closer attention to the people around me.

it still amazes me to think a person can make a decision to have breakfast, board a plane, takeover the cockpit, and drive the plane into a building. all i could say is it must take alot of hate...

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[Rudox]

I'd just like to thank Ron&Fez as well as O&A for getting me, as well as considerable number of other New Yorkers, through those days right after 9/11. It truly was amazing the compassion and humanity that both shows displayed in the weeks following that horrific event. They should be proud of the comfort they gave their listeners. Likewise, we the listeners, should never forget the efforts they made for us.

[Yerdaddy]

Some people seem unable to accept the fact that nobody has forgotten 9-11. They just don't act the way you want them to. Get used to it because they never will. But that doesn't mean that Americans aren't all affected in some way by that day, and, like any tradgedy, they should and will deal with it in their own way.

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[Rudox]

Also, does anyone know how one might get a copy of both the Ron & Fez, as well as O & A shows, from 9/11/01? Would really love to have a copy of each.

Just feeling a little sentimental with the anniversary coming up and remember how great all those guys were in getting us through those days after 9/11.

If anyone knows how I can get a copy, via download, cd... whatever, please e-mail me at ibexart@aol.com. I would gladly pay for the the cd's as well as fedex charges to get it by 9/11/03

Thanks, Rod.

P.S. Damn, I miss not having the boys in NYC...

[Melrapuo]

Also, does anyone know how one might get a copy of both the Ron & Fez, as well as O & A shows, from 9/11/01?

I'm not sure about any sites for Ron & Fez (you might need to contact Steels for that), but you can go here (http://www.flashbuilder.net/users/onatrix/main.html) for the OnA show from 9/11

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[TheMojoPin]

I've noticed something curious.

And this is NOT a negative point.

But pretty much all of the "don't forget/how can people forget?/what are these assholes forgetting?' comments/threads seem to come with a very New York point of view. "Don't forget when the Towers fell...I had friends in the Towers...New York was forever changed". And this is all very true.

But take me for example...being where I am, my attention was focused on the Pentagon, the fact I had friends and family working there, the Hill, around town, and especially my parents and friends at CIA HQ, one of the assumed targets that day. I remember watching the news footage from NYC, but mostly only focusing on what was going on here. To me, the Towers were and maybe still are secondary in my personal experience. All I can remember is the near-panic of not being able to contact ANYONE because of failing or busy phone systems, and not knowing where to go or what to do and not knowing whether someone I knew might be dead or about to be killed.

I guess I'm just saying is that perspective is radically different. You don't hear a lot of people from around here stating how they feel that people have "forgotten". I'm not sure why that is. Is it as something as simple as more lives were lost in one place than another? 9/11 changed me, but I DON'T think about the Towers every day, or even what happened here. I lost people that day, but I don't feel the need to bemoan OTHER people's assumed "lack of rememberence." It's MY reaction and thoughts and feeling that are important. Why should I care how others feel towards something that shaped MY life in a very specific and personal way? How can I expect someone completely different from me to feel and react the same way I do?

I'm not sure if this post can come off without me sounding like a prick, but I can assure that that's not my intention at all. I just never understood the already imagined memory of a universal emotional/mindset, even just hours after what happened. It simply wasn't the case.

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[Steels]

I have both "Ron and Fez" and "Opie and Anthony" 9-11 shows. Anyone that would like either or both shows can instant message me at "msteels" and I will file transfer them to you.

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[silera]

Actually you're right Mojo. Your proximity to the Pentagon and your link is that tragedy. I'm pretty sure that New Yorkers and the DC area, aside from those around the country that had a direct link, probably do feel the direct pain a little more.

I walk past the site at least once or twice a week, while working. Quite frankly, I shiver when I walk by every time and sometimes just cry. I didn't lose anyone there, I didn't even have anyone at risk I guess that day. Ironically, I had been there the day before at the Housing authority building on Church and Fulton, Dr0pping off some paperwork early that was due on the 11th.

I don't think about the Pentagon. I've never been there. I don't think it's callousness, I think it's facing your mortality. The "It could have been me" factor. Unless you feel that factor, it is easier to get over it.


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[mdr55]

I've noticed something curious.

And this is NOT a negative point.

But pretty much all of the "don't forget/how can people forget?/what are these assholes forgetting?' comments/threads seem to come with a very New York point of view. "Don't forget when the Towers fell...I had friends in the Towers...New York was forever changed". And this is all very true.

But take me for example...being where I am, my attention was focused on the Pentagon, the fact I had friends and family working there, the Hill, around town, and especially my parents and friends at CIA HQ, one of the assumed targets that day. I remember watching the news footage from NYC, but mostly only focusing on what was going on here. To me, the Towers were and maybe still are secondary in my personal experience. All I can remember is the near-panic of not being able to contact ANYONE because of failing or busy phone systems, and not knowing where to go or what to do and not knowing whether someone I knew might be dead or about to be killed.

I guess I'm just saying is that perspective is radically different. You don't hear a lot of people from around here stating how they feel that people have "forgotten". I'm not sure why that is. Is it as something as simple as more lives were lost in one place than another? 9/11 changed me, but I DON'T think about the Towers every day, or even what happened here. I lost people that day, but I don't feel the need to bemoan OTHER people's assumed "lack of rememberence." It's MY reaction and thoughts and feeling that are important. Why should I care how others feel towards something that shaped MY life in a very specific and personal way? How can I expect someone completely different from me to feel and react the same way I do?

I'm not sure if this post can come off without me sounding like a prick, but I can assure that that's not my intention at all. I just never understood the already imagined memory of a universal emotional/mindset, even just hours after what happened. It simply wasn't the case.



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[TheMojoPin]

I don't think about the Pentagon. I've never been there. I don't think it's callousness, I think it's facing your mortality. The "It could have been me" factor. Unless you feel that factor, it is easier to get over it.

Exactly. EXACTLY. Maybe it's hindsight, but the Towers completely feels like something that happened "over there" and that didn't involve me. All I always think back to is the confusion here, and that threat for hours of more planes coming in, false reports of car bombs going off downtown, someone attacking the State Department...madness...

And I COMPLETELY forget about the third plane that went down in Pennsylvania. And that saddens me. In my case, I realize that my perspective is from what I was forced to experience around me. That plane literally crashed in the middle of nowhere. Outside of the familes and the people on the phones with the passengers, who do they have? And how does the rest of the country feel about ALL of this? Is the feeling of someone in Arizona or Kentucky or Nebraska or Omaha different from somone in Oregon or South Dakota or Missouri?

And Mdr, I'm jumping on the bandwagon...if you don't have anything to say, don't even bother.

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[mdr55]

And Mdr, I'm jumping on the bandwagon...if you don't have anything to say, don't even bother.


I agree with your points! That's what I've been saying all along. Just read some of the other 9/11 threads.

And by the way, I'm biting my tongue on most of these threads in order to not cause any trouble (thus the no comments). I'm trying to be on my best behavior and this is what I get?

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[TheMojoPin]

Then SAY what you're thinking. Just a smiley is worse than Hitler.

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[Rudox]

Thanks "Melrapuo"... Tried the website you mentioned and it worked like a charm. Likewise, Thanks in advance "Steels." I'll IM you when I see ya' on line.

As far as the "who feels and remembers" what with regards to 9-11. Everyone has a personal connection, in one way or another, to that day. Whether that connection be the pentagon, the towers, the fields in Pa or something completely outside the main focus of that day - we all felt something. And, we're all going to remember what we connected with on that day and the subsequent following days.

Likewise, we're all going to forget, or minimize, some things about that day that may seem hugely important to others. Either way, "It don't make you a bad person." It does, however, make one realize just how may people, from all over the country - and all over the world for that matter, were effected in so may different ways by that day. No single tragedy has ever effected so many in such an instantaneous way as September 11th did. And, if nothing else, that instantaneous effect will be the one thing that everyone will always have in common and always remember.