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Heavy
09-22-2003, 01:52 PM
As a major international conference gets under way in Kenya, BBC News Online looks at the impact the Aids/HIV virus is having on one isolated community in Namibia.

The Himba people have over the years jealously guarded their customs and traditions, but these same cherished values now threaten to wipe them out.

Customs such as polygamy and overdependence on cattle as a pillar around which all economic activity revolves are making the Himba particularly vulnerable to HIV/Aids.

The Himba culture also encourages older men who are rich in cattle to monopolise the women - many of the men marry several young girls whose offspring help in the important task of raising cattle.

This culture - apart from ensuring that girls marry at a very early age - seems to punch holes in the lives of the young newly-weds.


"I have three boyfriends, in addition to my husband," admits a young Himba woman named Tjingee.

"When a woman has only her husband, other women will tease her saying she is useless for only having one man," Tjingee says.

Home Away

Himba women often reside at distant cattle posts where grazing is good while the husband remains in the homestead.

"This gives them an opportunity to have these extramarital relations," says Charles Varije, a Red Cross volunteer helping the Himba to protect themselves from HIV/Aids.


The Himba people have some difficult decisions to make


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The Himba culture also allows loose sex - an old uncle will readily offer one of his many wives to a nephew during visits.

This has contributed to the spread of HIV/Aids among the Himba - who lead a pastoralist life in north-western Namibia.

The Himba, who are estimated to number 46,000, have also in recent times been ignoring some of their age-old customs and traditions by intermarrying.

"The Himba have begun to intermarry with the Zemba and the Herero....by marrying out of their tribe they have exposed themselves to HIV/Aids," says Mr Verije, adding that last year seven cases of HIV/Aids were reported in the area.


Challenges

The main challenge facing the volunteers is how to convince the Himba to change a way of life that they have stubbornly held onto for so long.


The Red Cross is teaching the Himba about HIV/Aids and reproductive health
"Some will listen and live, others will not and will die," says volunteer Moms Mutambo, himself a Himba.

But even if some Himba grasp the catastrophic implications of HIV/Aids in their community, the daunting task will be to convince them about the urgency of the problem.

"A disease that can kill you in a decade does not concern the older men of our community," says Mr Mutambo.

To be able to curb the spread of the HIV/Aids pandemic the Himba people will have some difficulty choices to make - but in the end they will no doubt be forced to discard some of their cherished cultural practices and traditions.


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high fly
09-22-2003, 01:59 PM
This is all BERGALAD's fault, seeing as how he is the one who connected AIDS in Africa with Saddam's WMD program a while back.

" and they ask me why I drink"

Melrapuo
09-22-2003, 02:00 PM
"I have three boyfriends, in addition to my husband," admits a young Himba woman named Tjingee.


And they wonder WHY there's an epidemic...

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Heavy
09-22-2003, 02:23 PM
there lies the problem. I think Moms said it best:



The Red Cross is teaching the Himba about HIV/Aids and reproductive health

"Some will listen and live, others will not and will die," says volunteer Moms Mutambo, himself a Himba.




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fluffernutter
09-22-2003, 02:43 PM
You think you've got AIDS?!?

Feel these nipples!

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Def Dave in SC
09-22-2003, 03:32 PM
Tjingee


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TheMojoPin
09-22-2003, 04:20 PM
I'm convinced sr71blackbird's pants just flooded.

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monsterone
09-22-2003, 04:36 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39352000/jpg/_39352574_himbatwo203.jpg



don't let the mods see this- there's rules about nudity. though i'm not sure if it applies to national geographic style nakedness.

and how many posts about africa have you had today, wadd? somebodys got jungle fever.




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Heavy
09-22-2003, 05:36 PM
holy shit, i didnt even notice that was in the pic. but i agree it should be allowed. Its not porn.

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high fly
09-24-2003, 04:48 PM
It's ok, she's probly not old enough for sex; at least not in the U.S.

By the way, got any more pics of hot young African babes? You see, I'm uh, er, doing some research....

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Heavy
09-24-2003, 07:02 PM
Dude theyre obviously old enough for sex in the U.S. How old do you think they are?

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shamus mcfitzy
09-24-2003, 07:23 PM
definitely old enough. They're at least 9. That's old enough in my book.

high fly
09-25-2003, 09:02 AM
If there's grass on the field, I'm playing.

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Heavy
09-25-2003, 09:14 AM
there more the grass on that field. You know what I say, if shes old enough to wear socks, she old enough to........eh

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Mike Teacher
09-25-2003, 09:45 AM
Well you have the sub-saharan AIDS epidemic. Combine the ongoing slave trade, alive and well, and the wars and tribal fighting, an environmental disaster, dictators that starve the people, etc et al ad nauseum; and you have the makings for a Very Big Dying.



What will happen remains to be seen...

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Recyclerz
09-25-2003, 09:53 AM
And here's a tradition from Kenya that is also imperilled by the AIDS pandemic

Sex "Cleanser" Unemployment (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A6998-2003Aug17&notFound=true)

Obviously, this kind of behavior has to stop in the face of the AIDS crisis but I still have to take my hat off to the guy who convinced everybody in that society back in the day that this was a legitimate job and a good idea. He must have been the ur-Mack Daddy. I'll bet he had one of the most popular booths on Career Day at the high school.



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high fly
09-25-2003, 09:54 AM
It's all BERGALAD's fault too, which was clearly established in that "Iraqi Weapons of Mass Disappearance" thread.

" and they ask me why I drink"

Yerdaddy
09-25-2003, 10:05 AM
Obviously, this kind of behavior has to stop in the face of the AIDS crisis but I still have to take my hat off to the guy who convinced everybody in that society back in the day that this was a legitimate job and a good idea. He must have been the ur-Mack Daddy. I'll bet he had one of the most popular booths on Career Day at the high school.

If he was an American he'd have to play in the NBA to have that job.

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furie
09-25-2003, 01:11 PM
This is all BERGALAD's fault, seeing as how he is the one who connected AIDS in Africa with Saddam's WMD program a while back.

" and they ask me why I drink"

i missed that one. do you have the link?


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high fly
09-25-2003, 04:06 PM
Check the thread i referenced. It's right at the end. There was a nice discussion going on and then BERGALAD came in with some hairbrained theory about Saddam being responsible for the AIDS in Africa and how it was a WMD experiment gone tragically wrong.

" and they ask me why I drink"

TheMojoPin
09-25-2003, 04:15 PM
Stop making up stories, Aesop.

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high fly
09-25-2003, 04:50 PM
No, really.
And then he got all huffy when Silera called him out on it.
You could look it up.





and while you're at it, if you come across my Uday and Qusay quintafecta and care to share....



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This message was edited by high fly on 9-25-03 @ 8:51 PM