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Reephdweller
09-26-2003, 07:42 AM
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President of the United States George W. Bush as King of Diamonds is part of a card deck depicting 'the 52 most dangerous American officials', sold by the French group Reseau Voltaire (Voltaire Network) is seen in this hand out photo. Caption under photograph reads : 'Head of a baseball club and director of Salem bin Laden's oil company (brother of Osama). Designated President of the United States by friends of his father at the Supreme Court before the vote count showed that he lost the elections'. A little over 2, 500 decks have been sold on the internet in recent weeks. (AP Photo/Reseau Voltaire)

In French Deck, Bush Is King of Diamonds
Thu Sep 25, 8:57 PM ET

PARIS - The ace of spades? Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld gets the honor in a new French deck of cards. President Bush (news - web sites) is the king of diamonds and Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) the joker. The game takes a jab at the famous deck of cards created for U.S. soldiers hunting down ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and other leaders from the deposed regime.

"I found it completely indecent to present a manhunt as a game," said Thierry Meyssan, the man behind the French deck. "We thought this card game would allow us to ... explain why we consider the government of George Bush a threat to international security."

Meyssan is the author of a one-time French best seller, "9-11: The Big Lie," claiming that no plane ever crashed into the Pentagon (news - web sites) on Sept. 11, and that the attacks were plotted by a faction within the U.S. military.

Now, Meyssan said in a telephone interview, he wants to expose "the 52 most dangerous American officials."

Meyssan heads the Voltaire Network, a left-wing association that put the cards on its Internet site.

A little over 2,500 decks a la francaise have been sold, at $9.20 each, on the Internet in recent weeks, Meyssan said. There are plans to sell the decks in stores soon and translate them into 10 languages, he said.

Each card carries a photo of the official and a text explaining the choice. Bush, as the king of diamonds, is described as "the president of a baseball club."

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Teenweek
09-26-2003, 07:51 AM
Fuck france. They killed Robert Palmer

DJEvelEd
09-26-2003, 08:32 AM
[quote]
QUESTIONABLE TIES

Tracking bin Laden's money flow leads back to Midland, Texas
by Wayne Madsen

On September 24, President George W. Bush appeared at a press conference in the White House Rose Garden to announce a crackdown on the financial networks of terrorists and those who support them. "U.S. banks that have assets of these groups or individuals must freeze their accounts," Bush declared. "And U.S. citizens or businesses are prohibited from doing business with them."


But the president, who is now enjoying an astounding 92 percent approval rating, hasn't always practiced what he is now preaching: Bush's own businesses were once tied to financial figures in Saudi Arabia who currently support bin Laden.


In 1979, Bush's first business, Arbusto Energy, obtained financing from James Bath, a Houstonian and close family friend. One of many investors, Bath gave Bush $50,000 for a 5 percent stake in Arbusto. At the time, Bath was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, head of the wealthy Saudi Arabian family and a brother (one of 17) to Osama bin Laden. It has long been suspected, but never proven, that the Arbusto money came directly from Salem bin Laden. In a statement issued shortly after the September 11 attacks, the White House vehemently denied the connection, insisting that Bath invested his own money, not Salem bin Laden's, in Arbusto.


In conflicting statements, Bush at first denied ever knowing Bath, then acknowledged his stake in Arbusto and that he was aware Bath represented Saudi interests. In fact, Bath has extensive ties, both to the bin Laden family and major players in the scandal-ridden Bank of Commerce and Credit International (BCCI) who have gone on to fund Osama bin Laden. BCCI defrauded depositors of $10 billion in the '80s in what has been called the "largest bank fraud in world financial history" by former Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau. During the '80s, BCCI also acted as a main conduit for laundering money intended for clandestine CIA activities, ranging from financial support to the Afghan mujahedin to paying intermediaries in the Iran-Contra affair.


When Salem bin Laden died in 1988, powerful Saudi Arabian banker and BCCI principal Khalid bin Mahfouz inherited his interests in Houston. Bath ran a business for bin Mahfouz in Houston and joined a partnership with bin Mahfouz and Gaith Pharaon, BCCI's frontman in Houston's Main Bank.


The Arbusto deal wasn't the last time Bush looked to highly questionable sources to invest in his oil dealings. After several incarnations, Arbusto emerged in 1986 as Harken Energy Corporation. When Harken ran into trouble a year later, Saudi Sheik Abdullah Taha Bakhsh purchased a 17.6 percent stake in the company. Bakhsh was a business partner with Pharaon in Saudi Arabia; his banker there just happened to be bin Mahfouz.


Though Bush told the Wall Street Journal he had "no idea" BCCI was involved in Harken's financial dealings, the network of connections between Bush and BCCI is so extensive that the Journal concluded their investigation of the matter in 1991 by stating: "The number of BCCI-connected people who had dealings with Harken-all since George W. Bush came on board-raises the question of whether they mask an effort to cozy up to a presidential son." Or even the president: Bath finally came under investigation by the FBI in 1992 for his Saudi business relationships, accused of funneling Saudi money through Houston in order to influence the foreign policies of the Reagan and first Bush administrations.


Worst of all, bin Mahfouz allegedly has been financing the bin Laden terrorist network-making Bush a U.S. citizen who has done business with those who finance and support terrorists. According to USA Today, bin Mahfouz and other Saudis attempted to transfer $3 million to various bin Laden front operations in Saudi Arabia in 1999. ABC News reported the same year that Saudi officials stopped bin Mahfouz from contributing money directly to bin Laden. (Bin Mahfouz's sister is also a wif

furie
09-26-2003, 10:20 AM
russians too

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Death Metal Moe
09-26-2003, 10:36 AM
That's like the retarded kid in the class making fun of the kid who has his own Moped already and gets his older brother to buy him beer.

Fuck off France. You die now.

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09-26-2003, 12:31 PM
Oh no! Whatever shall we do now?

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09-26-2003, 12:58 PM
Oh no! Whatever shall we do now?
Poke fun at L'Car?

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furie
09-26-2003, 12:59 PM
Oh no! Whatever shall we do now?

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09-26-2003, 01:33 PM
Space Ghost already beat us to it.

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Se7en
09-26-2003, 02:50 PM
I'm actually glad they did this.

Because know I don't have to put up with French sympathizers who claim that it is only America that is damaging foreign relations between the two nations.

I find this less stupid than "freedom fries", but no less petty.

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Reephdweller
09-26-2003, 02:56 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. FUCK THOSE FUCKING FROG FRENCH FUCKS!

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09-26-2003, 04:01 PM
Why dont we fucking bomb them and finish it off.

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Teenweek
09-26-2003, 05:43 PM
I like freedom fries and freedom kissing too. I would also rather drink piss than French wine.

Doomstone
09-26-2003, 06:08 PM
I'm actually glad they did this.

Because know I don't have to put up with French sympathizers who claim that it is only America that is damaging foreign relations between the two nations.

I find this less stupid than "freedom fries", but no less petty.

One was the idea of a private citizen. The other was the idea of elected government officials. Big difference there, but why let facts get in the way of perfectly good ignorance?

I like the Deck Of Chickenhawks better anyway.

spoon
09-26-2003, 06:17 PM
I agree with Seven, the freedom fries shit was petty and so is this deck of cards. Perhaps they will use the money generated from the sales to buy a few AC units. Survivor France has been the best one yet. Only a few grandparents left, who will survive to see the birth of their great grandchildren??? There can only be ONE....Survivor!

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Death Metal Moe
09-26-2003, 06:20 PM
I agree with Seven, the freedom fries shit was petty and so is this deck of cards. Perhaps they will use the money generated from the sales to buy a few AC units. Survivor France has been the best one yet. Only a few grandparents left, who will survive to see the birth of their great grandchildren??? There can only be ONE....Survivor!

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I almost laughed at this until I remembered the time this summer I walked into my grandparents house and found my grandfather sweating in the heat. It seems old people hate A/C for some reason, but I made him turn it on.

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SuperKarateMonkeyDeathFez
09-26-2003, 06:53 PM
I like freedom fries and freedom kissing too. I would also rather drink piss than French wine.

Big Dick Black said you like the "Freedom tickler", too. How odd.

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09-26-2003, 07:00 PM
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Melrapuo
09-26-2003, 07:26 PM
French deck of cards spoofs U.S. officials


What a bunch of le douches...

And leave it to the French to spoof something that came out 6 months ago. Really keepin' with the times...

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Heavy
09-26-2003, 07:32 PM
I heard their next spoof on America wil be when they defend themselves and win a war for themself

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Se7en
09-26-2003, 08:50 PM
One was the idea of a private citizen. The other was the idea of elected government officials. Big difference there, but why let facts get in the way of perfectly good ignorance?

My biggest problem with God or whatever deity is currently running the show is that he / she / it / they wasted perfectly good brain cells on people such as you when they could have been better spent on creatures whose thoughts and ideas I would find infinitely more intriguing and amusing. Like talking dogs, perhaps.

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Death Metal Moe
09-26-2003, 08:53 PM
I heard their next spoof on America wil be when they defend themselves and win a war for themself

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Best reply of the week.

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monsterone
09-26-2003, 08:59 PM
can someone please tell me how many people died in that heat wave? i read 20,000 in the paper today. i remember when the number jumped from 1500 to 3000. that seemed outragous, and now it's 20,000???

that's more people dead than both sides in iraq.

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Doomstone
09-26-2003, 09:13 PM
My biggest problem with God or whatever deity is currently running the show is that he / she / it / they wasted perfectly good brain cells on people such as you when they could have been better spent on creatures whose thoughts and ideas I would find infinitely more intriguing and amusing. Like talking dogs, perhaps.

In other words, you have no rational argument against what I say, so you feel the need to resort to personal attacks.

Death Metal Moe
09-26-2003, 09:17 PM
Oh come on Doomstone. You did get snippy 1st.

But anyway, our cards were used in the feild to try to ease the indentifying of criminals. These cards are just little French faggots being faggots. God the French are useless.

They should change their name to "Tits on le Bull"

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Doomstone
09-26-2003, 09:24 PM
I merely pointed out that the cards in question were not created by the French Government, but by private individuals, and that's different from OUR GOVERNMENT partaking in such childish activities as serving "Freedom Fries" in their lunchroom as a way to somehow tell France that they suck (even though the "french" in french fries is in reference to the way the potatoes are cut, not the country). Private individuals in America have produced similar decks of cards (Deck Of Chickenhawks), where's the hatred for America?

monsterone
09-26-2003, 09:26 PM
But anyway, our cards were used in the feild to try to ease the indentifying of criminals. These cards are just little French faggots being faggots. God the French are useless.


very good point moe. but did you have to use the word "snippy?"

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Death Metal Moe
09-26-2003, 09:28 PM
Read it again! The word snippy is at the CORE of my post!!!

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monsterone
09-26-2003, 09:35 PM
well you don't have to get snippy with me!!!




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Death Metal Moe
09-26-2003, 09:39 PM
Mark Twain is my new God after reading that.

Seriously, I was in France on a school trip in High School. It's a beautiful country, or at least the parts I saw. Let's herd those Frogs into concentration camps and relocate some Americans there to give the palce some balls for once.

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monsterone
09-26-2003, 09:42 PM
http://www.francesucks.net/random/matt007.jpg


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09-26-2003, 09:46 PM
we should have done it a long time ago for this single reason


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TooCute
09-26-2003, 10:21 PM
Oh please. Visit Reseau Voltaire's website (http://www.reseauvoltaire.net/). They're a totally nutty bunch who think that Sept. 11th was planned and carried out by US military extremists in an attempted coup. Y'all are going to get pissed off at all France because of them?

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monsterone
09-26-2003, 10:25 PM
Oh please. Visit Reseau Voltaire's website (http://www.reseauvoltaire.net/). They're a totally nutty bunch who think that Sept. 11th was planned and carried out by US military extremists in an attempted coup. Y'all are going to get pissed off at all France because of them?


that, and the french people living there.

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TooCute
09-26-2003, 10:31 PM
I give up.

USA! USA! EVERYONE ELSE CAN SUCK MY AMERICAN DICK!

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Bestinshow
09-26-2003, 10:41 PM
Why, the French government is any less anti-american than these dickwads? Give me a F'en break.

And by the way, if those stinky bastards showered once in a while maybe less would have died in that heat wave.

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09-26-2003, 10:43 PM
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every stereotype is rooted in truth- and the french as a nation are coming across as a word they invented, douche.

the stereotype is international and almost politically correct these days. join our ignorance and run with it.

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Heavy
09-26-2003, 11:10 PM
USA! USA! EVERYONE ELSE CAN SUCK MY AMERICAN DICK!

Finally youre coming around.

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Doomstone
09-26-2003, 11:16 PM
Hey TooCute,

You don't need to use logic when dealing with subuhmans. Obviously, people here have no concern with reality, they only wish to conform to the latest groupspeak, which in this case is hatred for French people, no matter what.

You'd be better off moving on to a messageboard where you might find intelligent, rational adults. Obviously, you won't find that here.

Bestinshow
09-27-2003, 10:43 AM
You'd be better off moving on to a messageboard where you might find intelligent, rational adults. Obviously, you won't find that here.


maybe a nice intelligent, rational French messageboard where its intelligent and acceptable to express hatred for American people. Because that is always a good thing.

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TheMojoPin
09-27-2003, 11:24 AM
they only wish to conform to the latest groupspeak, which in this case is hatred for French people, no matter what.

While it's been recently taken to an absurd and unecessary level, global-wide hatred for the French is nothing new. And it's egotistical of us to think that the French only hate Americans. When I lived there it became abundantly clear that they hate EVERYONE who isn't French.

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Death Metal Moe
09-27-2003, 06:50 PM
Can we change his screen name to Le Doomstone?

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sr71blackbird
09-27-2003, 06:58 PM
I hear the French will use the profits from this to build for the first time in France's history this new invention called "Le sewer"
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09-27-2003, 07:02 PM
Someone fix the size on this:

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09-27-2003, 07:07 PM
Viva La France!!


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09-27-2003, 07:17 PM
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shamus mcfitzy
09-27-2003, 07:18 PM
I give up.


that's all they wanted. Let them be asses. There's no defense for Se7en's stupid statement, Doomstone already pointed out his ignorance. And you pointed out how radical the French group making the cards is. So there's no defense for anything that's being said in this post anymore. It's just stupid anti-French statements over and over again. Leave it to Americans to go against the French rather than look at the fact that what they say is generally the opinion of the world. I guess if they stink and they talk "funny" then their words are meaningless. How about concentrating on the Germans if what the French are saying is such garbage. STUPID AMERICANS......

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Death Metal Moe
09-27-2003, 07:25 PM
Leave it to Americans to go against the French rather than look at the fact that what they say is generally the opinion of the world.


I love it when people show their true colors.

WE Americans? What they fuck are you slappy? Against us I suppose.

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FUNKMAN
09-27-2003, 07:31 PM
i would just say that i heard the French leader speak at the UN the other day and he made a request for the US to give up control of Iraq 'immediately'. in my mind he knows that this would never happen 'immediately' and just wanted to differ from the US strategy.

i'm tired of grown men acting like children. there are innocent people within Iraq who want to live a peaceful life and all of the worlds leaders should put their ego's aside and help out.



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shamus mcfitzy
09-27-2003, 07:33 PM
I love it when people show their true colors.

WE Americans? What they fuck are you slappy? Against us I suppose.


Well i didn't say "those Americans" or something of the sort. I said "Leave it to Americans", meaning Americans in general. WE as a people are disliked for a reason. Because in general we're pompous idiots who actually think that "We're #1!!!", when we're realy more like #10. (thanks to NOFX) And when you are essentially hate-mongering, yes, i am against you.

And I don't think i've ever denied that I don't think Americans are the cream of the crop. So my true colors have always been "showing".

sr71blackbird
09-27-2003, 07:34 PM
rather than look at the fact that what they say is generally the opinion of the world.


Just because the world is against us, doesnt make us any less RIGHT. Its not the first time in history that the world didnt agree with us. The same people wouldnt even BE here if it wasnt for US.

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shamus mcfitzy
09-27-2003, 07:42 PM
The same people wouldnt even BE here if it wasnt for US.


Yes because WWI was US versus Germany and Austria and WWII was DEFINITELY the US versus the evil Nazis/Japanese/Italians. (and now someone will say something like "no thanx to the French!!!!!11") I think we kinda had help from the the Russians and the British (as much as i hate to admit that the limeys did anything good). I sure know Hitler didn't get stuck in Columbus, i think it might've been Moscow.

But I of course do get the point that the US did its part. And FDR was also the last president I think I would say was one i liked. Since WWII I don't think the US has really saved anyone's asses (without some degree of gain for the US).

shamus mcfitzy
09-27-2003, 07:42 PM
well i'm Irish. I dislike the English. :) But I can also respect them for their accomplishments. Much the same with the US. I don't hate the US, I just think that some should get over themselves. [no one on this board persay(sp?) , Americans in general]

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09-27-2003, 07:48 PM
limeys

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Heavy
09-27-2003, 08:01 PM
I hope Shamus chokes to death on a hairball.

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spoon
09-27-2003, 11:17 PM
Suddenly I can't wait for the next potato famine, heat wave and a run on vodka. Perhaps they want to be on the other side of history WITH the Germans this time, from the start. We hate the French because of their attitudes, not vice versa. We don't in fact have this reputation with the likes of "many countries" as it has been stated here. In fact I love Australia and it loves us too. If we were to believe the media on these issues, one would be led to think that Americans hate the U.S. It's simply not true. Just the fact that small idiotic groups of protestors and letterhead these days garner way too much power. Fuck the ACLU of late too. Idiots. Just a huge bag of asses.

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TheMojoPin
09-28-2003, 08:33 AM
We hate the French because of their attitudes, not vice versa. We don't in fact have this reputation with the likes of "many countries" as it has been stated here. In fact I love Australia and it loves us too. If we were to believe the media on these issues, one would be led to think that Americans hate the U.S. It's simply not true. Just the fact that small idiotic groups of protestors and letterhead these days garner way too much power. Fuck the ACLU of late too. Idiots. Just a huge bag of asses.

Never has so much made so little sense so insanely.

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And the French DO mostly hate us because of our "attitudes", or because we act "too American"...which is in fact an unfortunate form of insult across the world, one I've come across MANY times in my travels. Recent world events may have brought it to the forefront, but this is really nothing new. For decades now travelling Americans have gone so far as to just claim to be Canadian to avoid all the typical bullshit that goes along being branded American, whether it means an assumption that you're a ganagster, an obnoxious tourist, an arrogant imperialist, or just that you have money coming out of your ears. Even in Spoon's beloved Australia. Yes, often there are countries such as Australia where you're LESS likely to encounter it, but trust me, pick a country at random on the globe and I guarentee it you'll be treated a certain way there JUST BECAUSE you are an American, period. But don't make the silly assumption that westernized countries like Australia "love" us as a whole, or that "all" French people "hate" us. How are either of those NOT ridicuously arrogant?

And while this IS generally a dick move, just think to all the images, impressions and stereotypes WE have of various foreign visitors and tourists...people generally treat other people from other countries shittily, period. The French just take it to a new level because so many people there (Mostly around Paris and the "trendy" south...the people in the northern and central regions, as well as a lot of Paris itself are nothing but mostly hospitable and welcoming, or they just leave you alone) come to a decision on someone right off the bat just because they're not French. Doesn't matter where they're from...they're not French, so they suck. But it's really not THAT far off from how a lot of people in most other nations, ourselves included, generally feel about foreign visitors.

In the end it's a blast to poke fun, but it's a stupid thing to assume it's a universal reality (Or on the flipside, to assume that a country like Australia "loves" us with some kind of creepy herd mentality. I think the existence of Outback Steakhouses alone knocked us down a few pegs). I lived in Paris for two years and have visited numerous times since and have plenty of dear French friends who I'll probably be in touch with for the rest of my life. Sure, there were plenty of AWFUL people who wouldn't even look at me much less speak to me once they realized I wasn't French, but hey, fuck them. I'll stick with the good. It just seems a little laughable to decry a nation's supposed universal hatred for us and then counter it with our own, like that makes it OK. And as for media perception...well, you claim our anti-war protestors are presenting a false "bad image"...but that's all you're seeing the media present of OTHER countries, like France, like Britain, like Germany, etc., etc.. How do these things, assumptions, misconceptions and perceptions NOT run both ways?

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shamus mcfitzy
09-28-2003, 02:21 PM
what Mojo said :)


I hope Shamus chokes to death on a hairball.


and i hope that was a joke of some sort and not a genuine insult. Because even you can do better than that Johnee.

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Death Metal Moe
09-28-2003, 04:36 PM
Aww, clam up Mojo and have some Freedom Toast.

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Se7en
09-28-2003, 05:40 PM
It just seems a little laughable to decry a nation's supposed universal hatred for us and then counter it with our own, like that makes it OK.

You mean it doesn't?

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JerryTaker
09-29-2003, 09:06 AM
The ignorance of others saddens me...

Watching others mindlessly say the things they heard on TV, so they can continue to sit at the "cool table" saddens me...

The ability of others to simply "tune out" valid arguments and respond with the printed version of a "rasberry" saddens me...

This thread saddens me overwhelmingly...

I've lost hope for our once-great country...

What we've let our leaders do to us, what we've let the media do to us...

You people just don't want to see the truth. I'm convinced of this now.

I give up... this is horrible... and I am saddened, but I'll be damned if I have to pay for your voluntary blindness.

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TheMojoPin
09-29-2003, 09:18 AM
It's all so sad?

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Death Metal Moe
09-29-2003, 09:19 AM
Awww Jerry, not on your birthday.

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Heavy
09-29-2003, 09:19 AM
People overdramatizing saddens me.

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Se7en
09-29-2003, 05:13 PM
http://daschle.senate.gov/images/daschlelowres.jpg

Is he saddened AND dismayed?

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09-29-2003, 08:17 PM
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pennington
09-30-2003, 01:39 PM
Watching others mindlessly say the things they heard on TV, so they can continue to sit at the "cool table" saddens me...


THIS is the cool table?!

TheMojoPin
09-30-2003, 04:01 PM
Anyone who says it is is the damn craziest liar in the universe.

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shamus mcfitzy
10-01-2003, 03:35 PM
so wait...am i at the cool table? Because it still smells like ass......

high fly
10-02-2003, 10:25 AM
Where's my can of Assdontsmell?

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Se7en
10-02-2003, 10:42 AM
Ass Don't Smell T ?

But high fly, your ass doesn't smell!

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shamus mcfitzy
10-02-2003, 11:07 PM
ok, that was my ass......sorry guys.