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[fatLouie]

crazy crap. whats the point???

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[stickyfingers]

you might wanna explain more...not evry one got to listen to the show

Frats are IMO a pathetic attempt to be accepted because of what you are rather than who you are

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[monsterone]

if it wasn't for frats, i would have probably drank half the amount of free beer that i did in college. thank god for rush parties!!!

and most frat guys aren't all that bad. some of their activities are wierd, but who cares? i can't fugure out why hippies go to those crappy festivals- it's not for me.

i guess my point is that it's always good to have frat guys and hippies around if you want to party.

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[TheMojoPin]

I never understood actually joining one.

Some of my best friends were in frats, and nothing changed after they joined, and I knew most of their "brothers" and hung out with them...got to go to the parties and drink their booze...why would I pay to live in those shitty, disgusting houses?

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[stickyfingers]

those people pay to be friends with others...that's admirable

not all frats are bad i am sure....but there's something to be said when you are talking to a girl at a frat party and all of a sudden you are getting taken outside to the tune of 12 frat brothers...come to find out that one of the guys had hooked up with her the night before...that's grounds for punishment

Luckily I was rolling deep and it turned into nothing....my friends and I threw bigger parties than any of 'em anyway. We also got more noise violations than most.

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[TheGameHHH]

none of you should be talking about shit you know absolutly NOTHING about. keep your mouths shut. if you've never been through it then you don't know what it's about.


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[monsterone]

it's not your fault... it's not your fault...


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[stickyfingers]

none of you should be talking about shit you know absolutly NOTHING about. keep your mouths shut. if you've never been through it then you don't know what it's about.


then tell us what we are wrong about....oh, wait, i forgot that you're not allowed to talk about it

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[TheGameHHH]

why do u even need to know? its something you're not a part of, so get over it and move on


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[stickyfingers]

i truly could care less. I was merely pointing out the ludicris amounts of secrecy that is involved.

I know more than you would believe. I knew that I didn't want to take shit from losers that were actually my peers but had joined a couple months prior to me. I knew i didn't want to drink piss, stay awake for 48 hours, answer a 100 question quiz which had questions like 'Which way do you wipe your ass?'

And I realized i didn't even want to hang out there when they would make people pay 5 bucks to get shoved in thier basements and then get banned from thier parties b/c we were taking a number of people back to our place for a real party where status made no difference.

maybe my school was different so I shouldn't generalize but please don't lead people to believe that these 'frats' can do no wrong

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[TheGameHHH]

please don't lead people to believe that these 'frats' can do no wrong
never once did i lead anybody to believe that a 'fraternity' can do no wrong. now you're putting words into my mouth.



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[stickyfingers]

fair enough. you didn't say that. now respond to the whole post rather than a snip of it

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[grlNIN]

fair enough. you didn't say that. now respond to the whole post rather than a snip of it



How can he respond to a post that is pretty much a recollection of how you spent your time in college and how you percieve Fraternitys?

There's really nothing to say.

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[Doctor Manhattan]

Are there any Gay-Frats? or is that redundant?

(I hope that wasn't said on the show last night, I missed a few minutes!)

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[french bread pizza]

it's a fraternity not a frat

you wouldn't want anyone to call your country a CUNT would you


(actually that'd be kind of cool huh..."so what cunt are you from?"

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[Doctor Manhattan]

No, it's a frat. I never heard anyone at my college call it a fraternity, I don't think they could even pronounce that word due to the large quantaties of beer they drank.

And it's "Count" not "Cunt" :p

Only cool Frat:

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[Tall_James]

Some of my best friends were in frats, and nothing changed after they joined, and I knew most of their "brothers" and hung out with them...got to go to the parties and drink their booze...why would I pay to live in those shitty, disgusting houses?

For the fringe benefit of having a lot of sex with shallow girls who get off on being with a guy in a stupid baseball jacket with greek lettering on it.

Other than that, for the free beer that Monsterone talked about.



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[Doctor Manhattan]

So only Frat boys got to have sex with easy girls in college?
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It's college. Girls leave home and go crazy from the freedom. And that translates to casual sex

You don't need a Frat for Beer or Sex. There was plenty of it for everyone when I was in college and there is even more for current college students

So the question remains: Why join a frat?

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[TheMojoPin]

If you needed to join a frat to have sex in college, there was something DESPERATELY wrong with you. I wish I could go back to college just for the amount of easy sex there was to be had.

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[RageCage]

Why join a frat?


I'm sure there are many different reasons, but I think that insecurity and a lack of social skills top the list.

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[TheMojoPin]

And an insane fetish for thick necks and baseball caps ALL THE GODDAMN TIME.

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[East Side Dave]

Could all these frat threads be popping up because of the anticipation of tonight's episode of "Fraternity Life?" Personally, I think Robbie is a punk and should be beaten by Jon, who seems like an affable dude. What do you think, guys?



....guys?










...............g-guys?











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[stickyfingers]

There's really nothing to say.



Appears that way. So from now on I'll only state facts and never opinion or personal experience...this will be some great and entertaining stuff.

My question is: If some of these frats and sorrorities are like 100 years old and they have all of this tradition....were they hazing people like this in the year 1903? Was there even lube for the golf balls back then? I guess back then you had to be a real man to join.(opinion)

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[Furtherman]

My college didn't have frats and I took road trips to a lot of schools that did, and some that did not as well.

I found that I always liked the non-frat schools better. People were so much cooler and open and not a elitist.

[A.J.]

I found that I always liked the non-frat schools better. People were so much cooler and open and not a elitist.

My college didn't have any frats. Everybody went to the same parties and bars.

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[Mike Teacher]

why do u even need to know? its something you're not a part of, so get over it and move on


I'm Zeta Rho/Sigma Nu as National; Villanova University.

Much of what Ron said last night was dead on; I've seen it, I've Been There, I've Done That. And then went back and taught High School and saw it there, just remembering it a bit better then as a student.

It can be hell on earth being a student. And not all, but a few frats prey on young kids who show up at a place where none of the freshman really knows any other, so theyre looking for someone to hang with, and the Frats do a few Mixers, and you're off.

Some are great. Some treated the pledges like dogs. Kidnapping, Alcohol Poisoning, Hell Week/Night. Yeah, I was there.

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[grlNIN]

Appears that way. So from now on I'll only state facts and never opinion or personal experience...this will be some great and entertaining stuff.


You're taking what i said out of context. I simply meant that your post did not ask any questions therefore there was nothing to be answered(i.e. nothing to say in response to the initial post)

I'm not starting an arguement here, seriously i was just commenting.

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[Doctor Manhattan]

Do frats have a lot of orgies? because maybe that's a reason to join. if you're into that.

I like sex to be me and two girls, that's plenty, but I'm old fashioned.

I didn't need a frat to line that up.

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[fatLouie]

sorry about that. the guys were discussing what exactly the point of frats are and why someone would want to go through ridiculous rituals only to be in a secluded group of individuals and have to pay money.

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[TheGameHHH]

the worst part about this thread is that almost everyone assumes all fraternities haze (which couldn't be further from the truth) and due to that hazing (or your lame past expierences where you were rejected by a fraternity or booted from a party) fraternities have nothing good to offer.


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[Aggie]

GameHHH is one of the coolest frat guys I've ever met, and I've met a lot of frat guys. Well, at least black fraternity guys. :p

And people really shouldn't generalize about something they don't know much about. They are different on every campus and they are all run differently. We can't assume all frats are like the ones we hear about in the media, that's how stereotypes get started. Talk about the frat that's doing wrong, not the ones board members are in.

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[stickyfingers]

get over yourself. It's the holier than thou attitude that turned me off...I never wanted to look down on others for no reason. I was never rejected from a FRAT b/c I never wanted to become one of those people. I've been to a couple of 'date parties' and had a great time but I always found it interesting to have to answer the following question 20 times a night: 'So, are you a kappa sigma?' 'Who do you belong to?' 'I haven't seen you, are you a pledge?' No, I am just a lowly student.

GrlNIN...sorry if i went after you its just that when I do ask questions they don't get responded to and when he made a statement about knowing NOTHING (which was not true) I responded to him....I was just hoping to get some gentlemanly banter going on.

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[UnknownPD]

I'm sure there are many different reasons, but I think that <b>insecurity and a lack of social skills top the list.</b>

Couldn't have been said better!

[TheMojoPin]

I don't get why the "pro-frat" people here are so defensive. This really started out asking, "what's the point of joining a frat," and everyone got all pissy.

And what's not to "get"? Like I said, some of my closest friends in all of the schools I went to were frat members. My brother is in one right now. I went to hundreds of frat parties and hung out with frat brothers all the time at their houses, apartments and at clubs and bars. People are talking like these guys act one way around the "public", and then 100% differently when only amongst their own kind. I have nothing against frats, I just don't get paying people to hang out with them when I did it for free.

And again, the houses...come on. The frat members were usually the filthiest people on campus. How could anyone stand living there?

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[TheGameHHH]

And again, the houses...come on. The frat members were usually the filthiest people on campus. How could anyone stand living there?
speaking from my house only, and the ones around my campus, they are some of the most disgustings places I have ever seen, you couldn't pay me to live there.


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[TheGameHHH]

I never wanted to look down on others for no reason. I was never rejected from a FRAT b/c I never wanted to become one of those people.
again here you are making generalizations and stereotypes, the very things Aggie just tried to warn everyone against. What about me? I, as I'm sure you have picked up by now, am a member of a fraternity. I look down upon nobody, nor have I ever looked down on anybody for not being a member of a fraternity. It's your own choice to make, good for you if you dont want to be a fraternity member, but dont make generalizations about members just cause you might have met a few who were dicks. Looking down on people is just pathetic.


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[JimBeam]

But I think a lot of you, that weren't in them are using that ridiculously bland " paying for your friends " line when it means nothing.
You join a softball team you pay a fee no ?
You join a bowling league you pay a fee no ?
The money you pay is part of your rent ( if you live in the house ), part of your meal plan ( 3 squares a day and it wasn't shitty cafeteria food ), money for parties ( pay for beer, food, etc .. ), intramural sports fees and for social events that were just for fraternity people and their dates ( bus trips, football games, etc .. ).

I think a lot of times it depends on the kind of college you went to. I went to a school ( Louisiana State ) that had 24,000+ students and I was from out of state ( NY ) and really didn't know anybody. I went through rush as a goof because I wasn't planning on pledging and I went to a few houses where the people were cool. Sure some of the larger fraternities ( with 130+ members ) may be asses and its very clique-like but I joined one that had like 30 guys and it was a blast. I didn't join to pay for my friends I joined because it was cool and we were doing fun shit. I lived in the house every semester except my first and I enjoyed having a backyard on a lake much more than I did living on the 12th floor of a prison-like dorm. Plus I paid about 400 bucks less in rent.
The friendships you make are kinda different. I don't see many of the dudes I joined with that often ( years in between ) but when I see them I can pick up right where I left off.

Its also not rich elitist dudes either. About 20% of the guys in my fraternity were in the reserves and were using that money to go to school. One poor bastard got pulled out of classes to go to Kuwait, came back to school and a few years later was pulled out a week before finals to go to Haiti.

President Reagan came to our house ( he was in the same fraternity ) the year before I went to school ( 1990 ). It was the GDI handjobs that were lined up outside the house trying to get autographs that were pretty silly looking.

As far as the secrets go, they're no big deal. I don't/haven't told them to people because they just don't need to know. Why would I tell ? Just because you wanna know something doesn't mean that I have to tell it.

Mojo said it right, those of us that were in them shouldn't get defensive about it. Its not a big deal. But some with anti-fraternity attitudes seem very bitter. Its almost as if they wanted to join but just didn't get in. I know they are saying they didn't want to " be with people " like that, but they sure seem to be pissing fire over something.

As far as the secrets go, they're no big deal. I don't/haven't told them to people because they just don't need to know. Why would I tell ? Just because you wanna know something doesn't mean that I have to tell it.



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[stickyfingers]

but dont make generalizations about members just cause you might have met a few who were dicks. Looking down on people is just pathetic.


this I will give you but you have to consider the following. Your experience was good, while mine was not. You have seen the good side of it, while I have seen assholes that DO LOOK DOWN ON OTHERS for no reason. So I will cease my generalizations, but realize


But some with anti-fraternity attitudes seem very bitter. Its almost as if they wanted to join but just didn't get in. I know they are saying they didn't want to " be with people " like that, but they sure seem to be pissing fire over something.


Bullshit. You make it seem like those who aren't in a fraternity weren't able to get in. Holy shit, I had my RA begging me to pledge.

I had plenty of personal reasons for not joining if you want to hear them


It was the GDI handjobs that were lined up outside the house trying to get autographs that were pretty silly looking.


GDI handjobs=God Damn Independent handjobs....you don't look down on others at all

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[TheGameHHH]

but those last two quotes weren't me............who the hell uses the term GDI anyway? thats lame.

and Frenchie, dont call me a liar, it makes me sad :(


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[JimBeam]

First of all I didnt say I didnt look down on people.
GameHHH said that.

Name calling isn't just reserved to those that are anti-fraternity.

I also did not mention any names as to who wanted to get it yet didn't.
You appear to have taken that one personally.

I have balls !!!

[walking joint]

Could all these frat threads be popping up because of the anticipation of tonight's episode of "Fraternity Life?" Personally, I think Robbie is a punk and should be beaten by Jon, who seems like an affable dude. What do you think, guys?


i agree. that guy Robbie is such a skinny punk...he looks like such a dumbass. does he think he has some kind of stare of death thing going on. he looks really scary when he starts to do that stare...there aren't many people i'm sure i can beat up, but he is one of them. though the guy Jon is annoying as hell also. the poor guy that got stuck rooming with those two guys.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I didn't get the GDI either. I thought he was saying President Reagan was giving out handjobs

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[JimBeam]

He was but it was the independents eating the cracker.

I have balls !!!

[stickyfingers]

2 things:


GameHHH-this wasn't meant to get personal and I knew those last two posts weren't you, but as you can see there are people who look down on others (jimBeam)...which is kinda where i was going....you don't seem to me to be like that at all so I am sorry I drug you into this but I was not completely wrong either

JimBeam-then who were you talking to?


I also did not mention any names as to who wanted to get it yet didn't.

You appear to have taken that one personally


do I need to be addressed to answer this one too....i am obviously the one that has been the most 'anti-frat' in this thread so i figured I could also be the one to answer that question.



Its almost as if they wanted to join but just didn't get in. I know they are saying they didn't want to " be with people " like that, but they sure seem to be pissing fire over something.


That is a major assumption. A wrong one at that. Therefore, I gave you my story. Bottom line.

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[JimBeam]

I just made a statement.
It was my opinion that somebody, or some people, were very sensitive.
The pro-fraternity people were accused of taking the thread too personal and I just countered with the opposite opinion.

As with anything, to each his own.
I had a great time in a fraternity and didnt feel like I was paying for my friends.

I can have a negative opinion of somebody/something at any time. I dont need to explain myself. And if I have a negative opinion of something than it has far less to do with me being in a fraternity than it does with my own gut instincts.

Not asking for absolution or forgiveness from anybody.

I have balls !!!

[Gwen]

Okay kind of off the "heated discussion topic" and I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but seriously, why is so offensive when people call it a "frat" as opposed to a "fraternity"?

Also, the 3 board members I know who are also fraternity members are three of the THE most chill, friendly, inclusive people ever. :)

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[JimBeam]

Its not offensive to me.
I've heard people use the " dont call it a frat " line but I never saw the reasoning befind it.
I think some people take offense to it because they think its derogatory.
I'm not about to start acting like a victim because somebody used an abbreviation.

I have balls !!!

[stickyfingers]

i heard that at some school there could be no sorrority houses because there was some kind of really old law which said that if there were more than 4 girls per stove it was considered a brothel. Can this be true?

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[Furtherman]

I've heard about that law where I went to school and other college towns. It's rarely enforced becuase, well, it's a college town. The town needs the students. Coal mining and steel just doesn't cut it anymore.

[JimBeam]

Yeah a lot of schools are like that.
I know that in northern Louisiana, which is more conservative than southern La, there can not be more than 4 unrealted women sharing a house. Not sure if the brothel part is an old wives tale or not but it might have something to do with it.

But even New Rochelle NY had some wierd laws. I know that the fraternity I was in had a chapter at Iona College and they could not have a house for the same reason. Something about 4 people without a relation not being able to reside together.



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[french bread pizza]

i'd join if it was a brothel but i wouldn't join a sorority.


frat boys are good...good lays, good drugs, good booze..



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oh yeah..i forgot..

HHH i think you're a liar

neener neener

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[TheGameHHH]

but i'm a good lay with good booze and some seriously good drugs


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[dingo]

I joined a frat cause i thought that the concept was cool you could go to antother school and if you had a chapter there you had someplace to go you could hang out and party with them and they treated you like you were a member of there chapter. I will admit there were time that i didn't like my frat but any large group/club/team everyone doesn't alway get along. but what ti got out of it are some great friends and memories you don't stay in contact with everyone but the ones you do are life long friends (this past sunday i was a groomsmen in one of my brother's weddingand he has been out of school for 3 years and i have had alumni status in the frat for almost 2 years (that is what happens when it takes u 6.5 years to graduate) and out of school for a semester) and the ones u don't keep in contact with when u see them all the memoties and good times just come back. I will admit that it was fun for a year or so and then i grew up it wasn't the best thing i did but i would have regreted not pledging more latter than anything that had happened. We all is said and done i had a good time with it

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[french bread pizza]

but i'm a good lay with good booze and some seriously good drugs


w00h00

oh wait you're a liar..shit

or ARE you..

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