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sr71blackbird
10-11-2003, 06:27 PM
My Mother in law died yesterday. Im not holding anyone here to anything, but I was wondering what you would do in this situation. She had a distended uterous 4 months ago, and the doctor had her wait till she could have the operation, in part because the rest of her family was away, and she doesnt speak English. They did the operation fine 6 days ago, they kept her in the hospital for 2 days before she started having complications (fluid building up in her lungs, a "mini stroke" and heart beat abnormalities), the doctors decide to check her heart, and they find that shes 100% blocked in one artery, and 90% in another. They tell her they can put in stents to help her out. While shes awaiting the procedure (remember her family doesnt speak much English) she says shes hungry and they ask the nurse to bring her something to eat. I wasnt there, but the nurse gives her food, and later they are preparing to bring her to the operating room. There was a woman in the next bed, and she said that she heard that you arent suppose to eat before surgery, and she has already eaten. Her son goes and asks the doctor and he says that she shouldnt have eaten, but they decide to do the stent procedure anyway. After the procedure, the doctor tells them they had some difficulty positioning one stent and they would need to monitor her. They monitor her for another day and half and tell her family that she looks fine and she can go home. She has a 102 degree fever as they discharge her. She goes home and looks really good. The next morning she complains of chest pain, tingly fingers and tightness along her left side. They call 911 and the ambulance arrives within minutes. Shes at the hospital within 15 minutes of the call, and while they are examining her there, she passes out and dies 5 minutes after she arrives. The ambulance crew, as they were rushing to the hospital, was asking about her procedures over the past few days and acted like it was highly suspicious that they would discharge her within 2 days of such a series of procedures, especially the fever on the day of discharge. Now, I know that this is the internet, and this advise is between members of a posting board and not to be taken as any indication of the boards consent or direction and I hold no one in any sence of authority and I take full responsibility for how I percieve any information I interpret from the responses of this posting and that I made it under my own decision. That said, do you feel that I should take matters up with an attorney for malpractice, so that this hospital doesnt have a chance to end someone elses mothers life before her time is due?
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Well, I'd seek advice from a trusted doctor first, because I can already tell you what any attorney would suggest. It certainly doesn't sound good, but any legal action could be ugly, painful, and expensive, and you should be sure of wrongdoing before persuing it.
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BoondockSaint
10-11-2003, 06:41 PM
I agree with HBOX. If you can find a doctor to ask first, I would do that. An attorney will always go for the money, it's how they make their living.
My prayers are with you and your family.
sr71blackbird
10-11-2003, 06:42 PM
I know, but her family is baying for blood, and my nature is to wait and see what an autopsy will result before I make any suggestions. But those are the facts as I described them that I know of. There are some unanswered questions that I havent asked yet too. They are all still in shock as I write this.
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FUNKMAN
10-11-2003, 07:06 PM
Blackbird,
Sorry about your loss. My sympathies to you and your family.
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erole
10-11-2003, 07:44 PM
sorry for the loss.
i'm in agreeance here...check with a trusted doctor, with emphesis on trusted. at least someone in the medical profession. the senario sounds fishy. the food before an operation is a no no. leaving two days after with the fever and such heavy complications which can come along with what she had and went through - seems like a no no.
take everything into concideration when you go through this process.
but it would be important to make light of any malpractice so it does not happen again to anyone. just make sure that is what it was.
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SatCam
10-12-2003, 08:13 AM
Sorry to hear that, blackbird.
Besides checking with a trusted doctor, you might want to ask the doctor(s) who did the procedures what their reasons were to operate and if they thought it was good to eat before surgery. Check those answers with the answers of the trusted doctors, and try to see if you could find an attorney who gives free or cheap advice to see what your best options are. But remember, it's all up to you, and the lawyers are out to get you.
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DJEvelEd
10-12-2003, 08:36 AM
I'm really sorry to hear that. My condolences to your family. I'm also shocked and angered. This happens more and more by hospitals/insurance co.'s trying to save money at our expense. What is the name of this hospital? (so I know to stay away). I can tell you from experience that Deborah Hospital gave my Grandmother a stroke from shoddy catherization procedures. She came out of there in worse shape than when she went in and has permanent brain damage from them. Yes, sue them because we didn't and we regret it. Good luck.
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i am sorry to hear that......I think you should sue them because it is not right for them to operate when they know she ate something
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Green Lantern
10-12-2003, 09:52 AM
I'm very sorry to hear about your loss.
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Mike Teacher
10-12-2003, 10:16 AM
Get the facts.
Get the records.
Get the consent forms.
Start logging every single call to and from hospital/doctors etc; date time, what was discussed.
Same with Paperwork.
Ask for an investigation. When they say they are doing one, ask for a timeline.
Get it in writing.
Call your Insurance company.
Youve probably done all of this...
As for all the conclusions and opinions; they are only that; no one's an expert here, and I nominate myself for top non-expert.
Having said that; the main reason for not eating before surgery is the possibility of aspiration, the fancy word for puking during the procedure. You don't hand your life to the Surgeon, you hand it over to the Anesthesiologist; this is a bit reductionist, but... Sorry to be blunt. With that, people have emergency procedures all the time, and if they have to operate that minute; doesnt matter. This does not sound like the case here.
Arterial stents and any vascular surgery is a very risky business; and there is assumed risk, and consent forms, and all of that.
None of what I am writing is helping; I'm really just getting things off my chest, as I know how hospitals kill.
My prayers and good thought to your Mother In Law; that she Fly from This earth, through the Eye of the Needle, and be at peace, and out of pain.
Sadly, it is more difficult for the living. How does one deal with Death?
And yes, I say it oftn, almost to cliche, but the Aphorism stands:
There are few things like death that remind of us the Quality of Life.
Sorry, bro. Wish I had more then empty words.
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sr71blackbird
10-12-2003, 06:58 PM
I do appreciate all the kind words and advice. We are contacting a relative who is also a retired vascular surgeon, and are getting everything in place. Tonite was the first night of the wake. Its hard to keep composure when those you love are in agony. I also found out another disturbing thing today too. There was a night before she had had a mini heart attach, where the nurse came in to connect her IV drip and she placed the bag on her stomach while she was adjusting the hoses and stuff. The nurse left the room without hanging up the IV bag and my mother in law layed there all night holding the bag. She couldnt communicate with the staff, and she didnt know what else to do but hold the bag in her hands. Its suppose to dangle from the rack. The day they discharged her, they said her sodium was low. The iv drip is sodium from what I gather. The hospital? Long Island Jewish. They run commercials how they are suppose to be ranked #1. The place was filthy and not one doctor gave the same answer to the same question that other family members were asking at different times. It was like subterfuge.
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