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HBox
11-13-2003, 11:06 AM
On C-SPAN 2 you can watch 30 straight hours of the most awful partisan bickering you have ever heard. The Senate is holding a thirty hour debate on 4 judicial nominees who have been filibustered by the Democrats. It started yesterday at 6 PM, and it has gone on non-stop and will end tonight at midnight. If you are lucky enough not to be totally disgusted by our government already, flip over and watch for a couple of minutes. That's all it takes.

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Bama
11-13-2003, 11:12 AM
Think of all the time they are wasting. They could be naming post offices or congratulating some minor league sports team.

Where's the Leviathan when you need him?

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Recyclerz
11-13-2003, 01:27 PM
Where's the Leviathan when you need him?


Just wait until Tom DeLay gets Bush to appoint him Lord Protector of the Realm. Should be any day now.

And stop reading them books with the strange words and no pictures in 'em. Stick to the comics - you'll live longer.

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Snoogans
11-13-2003, 01:36 PM
isnt it nice to know that our senate can take after our unions by pulling a "30 hour" shift and magically getting done nothing

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TooCute
11-13-2003, 02:50 PM
HA!

Ted Kennedy ranting.

This is cracking me up.

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HBox
11-13-2003, 02:58 PM
Does Kennedy go psycho like this all the time?

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TheMojoPin
11-13-2003, 07:09 PM
God bless filibusters.

Strom's gotta be proud.

And "The Daily Show" put it best..."just a contest to see who the bigger dick is."

"I'm a Democrat! I'm blocking your nominees!!!"

"Ooooh, I'm a Republican and I'm blocking your blocking of our nominees!!!"

"Oh yeah?!?! I'm Ted Kennedy, and I have maaaaaan-booooobies!!!"

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A.J.
11-14-2003, 03:46 AM
Pity that Robert Byrd chose not to participate. He has the 8th-longest filibuster in Senate history (to block civil rights legislation).

I love watching him tremble and speak of Roman history. He was there when it happened you know.

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TheMojoPin
11-14-2003, 07:09 AM
Pity that Robert Byrd chose not to participate. He has the 8th-longest filibuster in Senate history (to block civil rights legislation).

Didn't Strom have the longest to do the same? 20+ hours?

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A.J.
11-14-2003, 07:15 AM
Didn't Strom have the longest to do the same? 20+ hours?

Yes -- he holds the record. Here are some more:

Strom Thurmond - 1957 - 24hrs, 18min
Alfonse D'Amato - 1986 - 23hrs, 30min
Wayne Morse - 1953 - 22 hrs, 26min
Robert M. LaFollette - 1908 - 18hrs, 23min
William Proxmire - 1981 - 16hrs, 12min

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TheMojoPin
11-14-2003, 07:29 AM
Good times, gooooooood times...when men were MEN. And they did it while walking 15 miles, uphill, IN THE SNOW...WITH WOLVES EATING THEM AND BOULDERS STRAPPED TO THEIR TEETS. MEN!!!

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shamus mcfitzy
11-14-2003, 07:36 AM
Good times, gooooooood times...when men were MEN. And they did it while walking 15 miles, uphill, IN THE SNOW...WITH WOLVES EATING THEM AND BOULDERS STRAPPED TO THEIR TEETS. MEN!!!!


Back when men were dinosaurs!!!! Ya hear, I hear me!!!

El Mudo
11-14-2003, 09:49 AM
i just love the random nature of the stuff they read at fillibusters, like Harry Reid last week went around the room and talked about peoples shoes, and read stuff from a book he wrote, and i remember something about thurmond reading the entire Dec of Independce, the Entire Constitution, and such and such...too funny..

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high fly
11-14-2003, 11:41 AM
I recall that after 8 years, some of Clinton's nominees still hadn't gotten a hearing for judgeships.

I am disappointed that the Dems haven't tried to block more.
They ok-ed 164 nominees without so much as a whimper.

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HBox
11-14-2003, 12:05 PM
Alfonse D'Amato

Well, there's a name I was trying desperately to forget.

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NATRONE_MEANS
11-14-2003, 12:27 PM
I'LL "FILLIBUST" CHUCK SCHUMER'S ASS!!! I HATE WHINEY LIBERALS!!! AND I BET CHUCK SCHUMER HATES BLACK PEOPLE!!! NATRONE HATES RACISTS!!!

shamus mcfitzy
11-14-2003, 12:29 PM
i met schumer's daughter. she did hate black people Natrone, the Schumers are a bunch of racists!!!

DJEvelEd
11-14-2003, 12:35 PM
I banged Schumer's daughter. We put fingers in each others asses. She was so good that I promised her I would drag at least 2 colored down a busy Newark crack street. Natrone, do you know any colored that are SMALLER and MEEKER and LESS ANGRY than you. Have them put this on:

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NATRONE_MEANS
11-14-2003, 12:43 PM
OH ED, YOU LUCKY I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A BLACK PANTHER, OR YOU'D GET NATRONE MAD!!! I HATE RACISTS LIKE THAT COCKSUCKING CHUCK SCHUMER!!! WHEN HE GETS HOME HE'S GONNA FIND HIS DAUGHTER WITH NO TEEF LEFT IN HER MOUF AND HER ASS INSIDE OUT IN A PUDDLE OF NATRONE'S PISS!!! THAT'S WHAT HE GETS!!! NO ONE'S GONNA DRAG ME BEHIND A TRUCK, 'CAUSE NATRONE'LL DRAG THAT TRUCK RIGHT BACK!!! I'M AN UNSTOPPABLE FORCE!!! I'LL LOWER MY HEAD AND RUN RIGHT THROW THAT WHINEY BASTARD!!! THEN I'LL MAKE HIM TASTE ALL 13" OF MY BLACK MEMBA!!! THAT'S WHAT NATRONE GIVES YA FOR YA IGNANCE, CHUCK!!!! TAKE DEMS!!!!

HBox
11-14-2003, 12:53 PM
I love you Natrone.

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high fly
11-14-2003, 12:56 PM
But how long can he keep it up?

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NATRONE_MEANS
11-14-2003, 01:03 PM
IF NECESSARY, NATRONE WILL POST ALL THE TIME!!! NATRONE MEANS I'LL KEEP RONFEZ.NET SAFE FROM RACISM AND WHINERS!!! THE SITES NEW MOTTO WILL BE: "NATRONE MEANS YOU BETTER SHUT YA WHINEY CRYHOLE OR I'LL SHOVE MY MEMBA DOWN YA TROAT!!!" YOU CAN'T GET NATRONE TO SACRIFICE HIS PRINCIPUES......UNLESS YOU GOT COKE FO' NATRONE!!!! I LOVES DA COKE!!!!

high fly
11-14-2003, 01:23 PM
B-but what about when his voice changes and he goes through puberty and all that?
Will he stillbe the same lovable NATRONE or will he sell out to the man?

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Se7en
11-17-2003, 04:16 PM
I am disappointed that the Dems haven't tried to block more.
They ok-ed 164 nominees without so much as a whimper.

It's not so much that the Republicans are criticizing the Democrats for failing to accept all of Bush's nominees, but rather they strongly criticize the Democrats for having rather dubious reasons for failing to accept the ones they have rejected through filibuster.

Consider this following story, and then see if you think the Democrats' position is truly defensible.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20031115-121140-2918r.htm

[quote]Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee have worked in close concert with outside special-interest groups to defeat President Bush's judicial nominees, according to internal Democratic staff memos.
In one memo to Sen. Richard J. Durbin of Illinois obtained by The Washington Times, Washington lawyer Miguel A. Estrada is singled out as "especially dangerous" because "he is Latino." Mr. Estrada, born in Honduras, withdrew his nomination to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in September after being filibustered for eight months.
In another memo, staffers for Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts recommend that a Bush nominee to the 6th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, Tennessee Judge Julia S. Gibbons, be stalled until after that appellate court decided on the two major affirmative action cases dealing with the University of Michigan and its law school.
"The thinking is that the current 6th Circuit will sustain the affirmative action program, but if a new judge with conservative views is confirmed before the case is decided, that new judge will be able, under 6th Circuit rules, to review the case and vote on it," the staffers wrote.
The 14 internal documents obtained by The Times - which did not come from a Senate staffer - appear to support some of the more serious accusations made by Republicans during the 39 hours of Senate debate over Democratic filibusters that ended yesterday morning.
Democrats on the Judiciary Committee have long proclaimed their independence from outside interest groups and angrily deny accusations that they considered the race of Mr. Bush's nominees before blocking them.
After two nights of nonstop debate, Democrats voted yesterday to conduct two new filibusters against judicial nominees and voted to maintain another. In total, Democrats are now filibustering five nominees.
The two new filibusters are against California Judge Carolyn Kuhl, nominated to the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, and California Supreme Court Justice Janice Rogers Brown, nominated to the U.S. Appeals Court for the D.C. Circuit. Republicans - and conservative black leaders - have accused Democrats of blocking Justice Brown because she is black but doesn't subscribe to the Democratic ideologies that many blacks do.
Similarly, Republicans have accused Democrats of blocking Mr. Estrada because of his ethnicity. They say Democrats fear allowing Mr. Bush to get credit among the fast-growing population of Hispanic voters for advancing a Hispanic nominee such as Mr. Estrada to a high-ranking judicial position.
But Democrats have repeatedly insisted they opposed Mr. Estrada's nomination because they did not know enough about him and his legal work.
In the Nov. 7, 2001, memo, the Durbin staffer was recounting a meeting his boss had missed with Mr. Kennedy and "representatives of various civil rights groups."
"[Y]esterday's meeting focused on identifying the most controversial and/or vulnerable judicial nominees, and a strategy for targeting them," the staffer wrote about the groups present. "They also identified Miguel Estrada (D.C. Circuit) as especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment." Portions of the memo first appeared in yesterday's Wall Street Journal editorial pages.

HBox
11-17-2003, 04:39 PM
"especially dangerous" because "he is Latino."

I would LOVE to see what's between those two quotes.

which did not come from a Senate staffer

Then where the fuck did they come from?! A crackhead rummaging through the trash? This description rules out about .0000000001% of the population.

The two new filibusters are against California Judge Carolyn Kuhl, nominated to the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, and California Supreme Court Justice Janice Rogers Brown, nominated to the U.S. Appeals Court for the D.C. Circuit. Republicans - and conservative black leaders - have accused Democrats of blocking Justice Brown because she is black but doesn't subscribe to the Democratic ideologies that many blacks do.

And the white appointees are being blocked because they don't subscribe to the beliefs of white Democrats. Where's the difference?

"There's been this rash of stolen Democratic memos by Republicans recently," he said, citing the memo written by a staffer to Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV, West Virginia Democrat, that strategized to make political hay out of the Iraq war.
"These are thefts of Democratic memos," Mr. Smith said.

It's funny how no one has a problem with this. I would love to see private Republican memos. At least we have our Liberal Media to criticize the evil conservatives for this theft, right?

Amazingly, if the GOP did this (politicize both committees), I think the impartial mainstream media [/sarcasm] MIGHT make a big deal about it.

Oh, they aren't? I guess that's why every judicial nominee is to some degree conservative and why the intelligence committee is really grilling the White House, right?

Hypocrasy is running rampant through Washington, and trying defend either side is silly.

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Death Metal Moe
11-17-2003, 04:44 PM
I wish someone would fillabuster Ted kennedy's flapping jaw meat.

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TheMojoPin
11-17-2003, 07:55 PM
I think the impartial mainstream media [/sarcasm]

God, give it up.

If it's such a huge, legitmiate issue, why is it ONLY brought up when it's convenient?

I've yet to see this painted in any kind of a favorable light for the Democrats, so quit throwing the pity party.

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high fly
11-19-2003, 09:33 AM
I don't think much of Carol Mosely Braun, but I like her quote about how the Bush administration is concerned about giving lifetime jobs to 8 people but not the 3 million who've lost their jobs...

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