Oh good, Natalie Maines has something to say

[furie]

"I think people were misled and I think people are fighting a war that they didn't know they were going to be fighting," Maines said Friday on NBC's "Today" show. "And I think they were misled by people who should have been asking questions and weren't."

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[Tall_James]

She'll say anything just so she won't just be known primarily as "the fat Dixie Chick".


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[shamus mcfitzy]

well she said something. She was talking just as anyone would be talking. If I was in the same position I wouldn't just shut up because i'm famous. She's the ugliest one though....so she can go fuck herself.

[TheMojoPin]

I thought Toby Kieth made us all safe from her.

Wait, no, he's a moron, too.

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[keithy_19]

People in hollyweird and the music industry should just shut up. I don't their opinions on politics or the war. Their payed to entertainan.

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[TheMojoPin]

Then don't listen to them.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

"the fat Dixie Chick".


What?! She's fat? I guess I missed that wymyn's news letter.

I'm not supporting or condoning her words, but how come whenever a woman makes a socio-political or perhaps intellectual statement, her body gets attacked?

I can take a joke and all. You all know that. But why does a woman's personal political opinion suddenly render an attack on her appearance?

That's just so reactionary, antquated, and plain back asswards.

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[Yerdaddy]

I'm all for her. She was right then and she's right now. We were fucking lied to. It's embarrasing that we will tolerate this kind of fuck up, and with the kind of backlash against the people who spoke out and were right about this thing. She's a patriotic American and I'd love to pee in her butt for it.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

She's a patriotic American and I'd love to pee in her butt for it.


And to think I liked you 'til now.

:)

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[Yerdaddy]

At least she gets hottie points when we like her politics. Fair and ballanced sexism.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

At least she gets hottie points when we like her politics. Fair and ballanced sexism


Don't pacify me you sexist bastard!

Look! A hemline! I need to discuss!

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[JohnnyCash]

Shes so stupid.She should just stop talking.

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[Bama]

The more you hate her the more her power grows.



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[Yerdaddy]

Don't pacify me you sexist bastard!

You're so sexy when you're uppity.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

You're so sexy when you're uppity.


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

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[Se7en]

I'm all for her. She was right then and she's right now. We were fucking lied to. It's embarrasing that we will tolerate this kind of fuck up, and with the kind of backlash against the people who spoke out and were right about this thing. She's a patriotic American and I'd love to pee in her butt for it.



Bah.

She's just milking this for the publicity now.

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[Yerdaddy]

She's just milking this for the publicity now.


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[shamus mcfitzy]

i'd like to point out, that although she is the fat Dixie Chick, i was joking. Tall James beat me to saying it. I was saying it out of jest though. And I'd certainly fuck her, it's just that she's probably the least attractive one.

[Bama]

And I'd certainly fuck her, it's just that she's probably the least attractive one.


I think that is one thing we can all agree on.

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[monsterone]

i'm more amazed that people like country music.

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[Se7en]

She's just milking this for the publicity now.


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Dude, whatever.

She's the female Toby Keith. They're two sides of the SAME coin.

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[Bama]

She's on the Republican payroll. There can be no doubt now.



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[Ndugu]

You are absolutely correct......................she is fat.

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[CruelCircus]

We were fucking lied to.
No, we weren't.


People in hollyweird and the music industry should just shut up. I don't their opinions on politics or the war. Their payed to entertainan.
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[pennington]

A Texas high school education is a wonderful thing. She's not going to stop until she totally destroys that group...

[A.J.]

how come whenever a woman makes a socio-political or perhaps intellectual statement, her body gets attacked?

Susan Sarandon is a commie whose spectacular rack isn't as high and firm as it used to be!

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[Yerdaddy]

We were fucking lied to.
No, we weren't.
Liar



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[DarkHippie]

Did anyone besides me actually see the interview? She said one sentence about politics in the whole 10 minute interview, yet that's what everyone catches onto.

Its one of the complexities of being famous that everything you say, every side comment, every bit of between song banter, can end up as front page news. In a sense, you have to censor yourself: you are never free to speak your mind, because it will always be taken out of context.

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[CruelCircus]

We were fucking lied to.
No, we weren't.
Liar

Oh, this will go places.

Anyone who claims we were lied to is either trying to mislead, or has been misled.
Which are you?

You may have been lied to, but it certainly wasn't by the President.


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[Tall_James]

What?! She's fat? I guess I missed that wymyn's news letter.

I'm not supporting or condoning her words, but how come whenever a woman makes a socio-political or perhaps intellectual statement, her body gets attacked?

I can take a joke and all. You all know that. But why does a woman's personal political opinion suddenly render an attack on her appearance?

That's just so reactionary, antquated, and plain back asswards.

Just know that I was making a joke about how oftentimes (in jest) that that is the way she is identified. I was drawing no parallel. If I offended you Alice, I apologize.

The rest of you all can go pound sand up your asses. :)


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[El Mudo]

She's just milking this for the publicity now.


Of course she is...i think the Dixie Chicks just released a "Live" album...today i believe..

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[DarkHippie]

Of course she is...i think the Dixie Chicks just released a "Live" album...today i believe..

of course she was . . . this interview happened on the Today show, where the Dixie Chicks were talking about their live album, and Couric asked her a question about politics.

It's not like this came out of nowhere, she was asked a question and she answered.

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[pennington]

Its one of the complexities of being famous that everything you say, every side comment, every bit of between song banter, can end up as front page news.

Exactly. This is the real world, she's not posting her thoughts anonymously on a message board. This is something politicians learn very quickly.

She knew this is a "third rail" subject yet she's still trying to prove she was right. She, and others like Jeanne Garafalo, have to decide if they're politicans or entertainers. People like Al Franken have made the jump permanently into politics, but his "comedy" career was already over.

Somebody needs to sit Natalie down and explain to her that she has to politely brush this subject aside whenever it comes up. Otherwise, everytime she's interviewed, some sweet-faced innocent looking interviewer is going to play gottcha and nail her.

[Yerdaddy]

Somebody needs to sit Natalie down and explain to her that she has to politely brush this subject aside whenever it comes up.
Listen, pennington, you need to politely brush this subject aside whenever it comes up.


You may have been lied to, but it certainly wasn't by the President.

We went to war with Iraq supposedly because they had WMD and terrorist ties with al-Qaeda. That's how it supposedly fit into the war on terror. None of that has proved to be true, and the war on terror is now more difficult. That's about as nutshell as I can get it. It's my opinion, and I trust it. I don't have any expectations of convincing anyone else of it, so I'll leave it at that. If you know something I don't I'd be glad to hear it.

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This message was edited by Yerdaddy on 11-26-03 @ 10:25 AM

[Se7en]

It's my opinion, and I trust it.

Well, there you go.

At least you finally qualify your argument.

Instead of just saying "We were lied to" and expect us to believe it's the gospel.



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[Furtherman]

Instead of just saying "We were lied to" and expect us to believe it's the gospel.


Vaild point. But in this case, anyone with a shred of common sense can see this to be true. We were lied to by the presidency. I'm not saying President Bush. I see him to be a good man. It's the people surrounding him and helping him make decisions that have lied to us.

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[JerryTaker]

Instead of just saying "We were lied to" and expect us to believe it's the gospel.


Remember folks, be very cynical about our peers, but trust everything our politicians say. After all, they're better people than us.

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[Yerdaddy]

Instead of just saying "We were lied to" and expect us to believe it's the gospel.

Like when you get to dismiss the media as liberal, but never have to back it up with data?

I don't expect anyone to do anything, but don't whine about semantics.

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[Bama]

Natelie wins whenever we talk about her.

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[JerryTaker]

Natelie wins whenever we talk about her.


You know what, you're right. Let's just not have any discussions about anything on a friggin' message board. We'll all just sit here in silence like good little worker ants...

Or better yet, why don't YOU tell us what we can and cannot talk about Bama, because without your guidance, I'm completely lost.

Let's stand around and talk about college football, because that's really friggin' interesting


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[Bama]

WTF???
Who pissed in your cornflakes?

Since you asked:


The BCS sucks. We need a damn playoff. Discuss.

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[JerryTaker]

Who pissed in your cornflakes?


George W himself, actually...

But the whole "The more we talk about it, the more attention they get / money they make" argument is overused, and detrimental to this forum, and the right to assembly in general.

My only college football question, is "who goes to a game with a hacksaw in the first place?" "We won, we won, let's make the school pay for new goalposts!!!" The Hell?

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[Bama]

So you want me to not post what I want?

That is just what Natalie Maines wants too Jerry. If I don't post what I think. The Dixie Chicks win.

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[JerryTaker]

That is just what Natalie Maines wants too Jerry. If I don't post what I think. The Dixie Chicks win.


win what, exactly? and if so, who loses? and what do they lose?

I could care less if the Dixie chicks "win" Because it doesn't affect me. if someone were to tell me, "You can't talk about this," now that affects me.


EDIT: to continue, your argument, is "let's not talk about this, because it creates undue attention" I think things like this need our attention, no matter who says it, simply because, well, something's wrong. and if you can't see that, then I really don't know what I can possibly tell you, because I know you won't regard my opinions anyway.


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[Bama]

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Talk about this all you want.

I LIKE IT


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[shamus mcfitzy]

Somebody needs to sit Natalie down and explain to her that she has to politely brush this subject aside whenever it comes up.


why? Because a couple dozen people on this message board don't want to hear it? Don't be stupid and think this is really hurting her all that much. The Dixie Chicks will keep on making money. Ultimately there really is no reason to brush it off. You may look at this as bad publicity somehow, but I think it's just neutral publicity. This isn't 1915, she's not gonna be thrown in prison.


People are saying, "Well, are they truly mobile biological labs?" Yes, they are.


even though there's more to what he said, it was even funny when he originally said it.

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[Bama]

why? Because a couple dozen people on this message board don't want to hear it? Don't be stupid and think this is really hurting her all that much. The Dixie Chicks will keep on making money. Ultimately there really is no reason to brush it off.


Spoken like a true liberal. Great post comrade.

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[TheMojoPin]

If nobody's gonna shut Toby Keith, Aaron Tippin and Charlie Daniels the fuck up, this chick can say whatever she wants.

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[pennington]

Listen, pennington, you need to politely brush this subject aside whenever it comes up.


What? And miss the brilliance of a Yerdaddy post?

NEVER, I say!!! NEVER!!

You'll have to tear this keyboard FROM...MY...COLD...DEAD...HANDS. :eg:

[CruelCircus]

You may have been lied to, but it certainly wasn't by the President.

We went to war with Iraq supposedly because they had WMD and terrorist ties with al-Qaeda. That's how it supposedly fit into the war on terror. None of that has proved to be true, and the war on terror is now more difficult. That's about as nutshell as I can get it. It's my opinion, and I trust it. I don't have any expectations of convincing anyone else of it, so I'll leave it at that. If you know something I don't I'd be glad to hear it.

I'm not sure I know something you don't, I'm just not going to immediately jump to the conclusion that people are lying. I think it's far more likely that IF these weapons are never found (and after just a few months of looking, I'm not ready to say that's a definite) that either a) they were destroyed at some point, or b) the intel was simply wrong. Would mistaken intelligence be a problem? Yes. Would it be a conspiracy of deception? Certainly not.

Remember, the US govt. and the UN both have been working under the assumption that these weapons indeed existed long before the Bush administration took power.


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[Se7en]

Instead of just saying "We were lied to" and expect us to believe it's the gospel.


Remember folks, be very cynical about our peers, but trust everything our politicians say. After all, they're better people than us.


Ah, yes, of course, that's exactly what I said and / or meant.

Fucking dimwit.

It's his set-in-stone conviction that I find amusing.

None of us REALLY know what the hell went on - whether the intel was just godawful (and judging the state of our intelligence services, that's entirely possible), whether we were blatantly lied to, whether it was a lie of omission, action taken in honest good faith......none of us know for sure what the deal is. Doesn't mean we shouldn't question....

....but it's no surprise that he - and Ms. Maines here - jump to the most negative conclusion possible, because.....well, we know why.

I'll give him credit, though - at least he didn't cop the same bullshit argument high fly used the other day about how we've wasted the "cream of our youth."

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[high fly]

We need to take Maines' rights away from her and all her ilk so we can have the Stepford Nation that the founding fathers envisioned.

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