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Tenbatsuzen

11-30-2003, 05:33 PM

From comments made by Mel Karmazin along with the general landscape of NYC broadcast radio, it seems highly unlikely that Ron and Fez will return to NY radio anytime soon on an Infinity owned radio station.

C'est la vie.

BUT WAIT!

Sirius Satellite Radio has announced that they are starting a Hot Talk themed stream later on in 2004. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that a certain contract runs out in about six months, right?

NOW IS THE TIME TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD.

genfeedback@sirius-radio.com - Email! Tell them you want to hear O&A and Ron and Fez!

Send a card!

Jeremy Coleman
SIRIUS Satellite Radio
1221 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020

They are building a station from the ground up! They are looking to hear from YOU! Tell them what you want!

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ChickenHawk

11-30-2003, 05:38 PM

I hate to think I'd have to pay to hear O&A or R&F...

Curse the day of Sex For Sam 3... Curse it.

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TooCute

11-30-2003, 05:39 PM

Just out of curiosity, how many people actually listen to satellite radio? Or WOULD listen to it, even if R&F & O&A were on it?

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walking joint

11-30-2003, 05:44 PM

i would get it if they were on it....radio sucks and i pay more for a bunch of crap on TV.

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Steels

11-30-2003, 05:47 PM

Tall_James

11-30-2003, 05:51 PM

Just out of curiosity, how many people actually listen to satellite radio? Or WOULD listen to it, even if R&F & O&A were on it?
I probably would not.

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ChickenHawk

11-30-2003, 05:55 PM

I am happy to add that my associates and I already have a service in place just waiting to "provide" for the public if and when the SIRIUS "Talk" format launches. For anyone that is worried they may be left out in the cold due to a lack of funds, hardware or any other possible means do not worry for I am the Impresario and "Ron & Fez" will ALWAYS be available to EVERYONE!
Problem is, people wanna listen at work and in the car and on the street and at the park... Those days may be gone forever.

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Tenbatsuzen

11-30-2003, 05:59 PM

Just out of curiosity, how many people actually listen to satellite radio? Or WOULD listen to it, even if R&F & O&A were on it?

Satellite Radio technology currently has more than 1.25 million subscribers. The split is 1+ million for XM, 250K+ for Sirius.

Before you scoff at those numbers, I'd like to point out that Satellite radio's consumer curve is following the same projections as DVD and DVD players. Slow at first, followed by an explosion. If Sirius gets O&A, you can expect Sirius to catch up with XM in a major way.

I hate to think I'd have to pay to hear O&A or R&F...

It's the same concept as HBO. You get the naughtier, more high-concept stuff on satellite. Broadcast TV sucks. So does radio. Gotta pay for quality.

I am the Impresario and "Ron & Fez" will ALWAYS be available to EVERYONE!

The best possible solution, which I'm hoping Jeremy Coleman is exploring all options for, is that R&F continue to broadcast on WJFK and are simulcast on Sirius.

It is currently happening with a few other talk radio shows, including Bubba the Love Sponge.

IF Sirius understands there's a major amount of support for Ron and Fez, they'd probably be more willing to give them a slot, then say... Don and Mike or Leykis.

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who6489

11-30-2003, 06:04 PM

I would definately get it if O&A go there, which seems likely. Radio has been so bad lately. More ads than anything. I'm in and out of my van all day (cable guy) and it's annoying that as soon as I get in there's an ad! By the time a song or talk show comes back on, I'm at the next house! And it seems that every station goes to break at exactly the same time!
If there goin' through with the Hot Talk stuff, I'm there. Ad Ron & Fez, Ferrell, and Ed Trunk doin' a metal talk show! Hell, why not the Radio Chick while you're at it. Her show on the Q was crap. Mainly because it was more of a "Zoo" format. I may be in the minority, but her show on N.E.W was not THAT bad. At least it was all talk, and didn't get broken by a song right in the middle of a conversation!
I hope that if you're a subscriber, you can listen online and get replays of what you missed!
I'll be onboard if and when the time comes.
So there ya go.

Take it easy Clarky

furie

11-30-2003, 06:08 PM

Just out of curiosity, how many people actually listen to satellite radio? Or WOULD listen to it, even if R&F & O&A were on it?

that cuts right to it doesn't it?

honestly, probably not

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TooCute

11-30-2003, 06:15 PM

who6489

11-30-2003, 06:16 PM

I was just looking on their site and you can listen online!

here's the site (http://www.siriusradio.com)

And it's fairly cheap. For now, anyway.

Take it easy Clarky

Tenbatsuzen

11-30-2003, 06:32 PM

FYI Sirius, according to their website, is $12.99 a month, plus $6.99 a month for each additional radio. For those of you who aren't lucky to have a new car that came equipped with a satellite radio already, you're going to have to buck up more $$ for a new radio for your car, and for your home and office (either an interchangeable one, or individual ones).

AFAIK, "each additional radio" = the receiver. Meaning "One Radio" is that interchangable receiver you can take from car to boom box.

So if you're a single male, like myself, you'd only need one radio, which you'd take from home-to-car-to-work and vice versa.

The "additional radios" are for two or more people with additional cars, etc.

Let's be frank here. The radio itself for the car is 200 bucks.

The service is 15 bucks a month.

As stated before, 15 bucks a month is still less than a month of Netflix, three magazines, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

The costs involved are STILL comparable to DVD.

You buy the equipment upfront, and then pay a monthly fee.

ANd it's not like you're paying 15 bucks a month for JUST O&A and/or R&F. You're still getting a ton of other channels as well.

The startup costs for a single male...

1) Antenna - between 50-100 bucks.
2) Receiver/Car Kit package - 150 bucks (cheapest)
3) Boombox - 100 bucks.

So it's 350 bucks for the initial set-up costs. Not cheap, but it's the same cost as a PS2 when it came out, with the same enjoyment level you're going to get out of it.

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curtoid

12-01-2003, 04:13 AM

Sure, I'll drop Jeremy a line - I actually use to know the guy, and while he is nice enough, he's not exactly the big shot he thought he was.

Here in DC, he lucked into a promotions job at WJFK the same time Don and Mike were brought over from WAVA (1991). Stern was already in the mornings at this time.

About a year and a half later was when they (the suits) brought G. Gordon Liddy over for the mid-day spot, and that was the station's very successful 6am - 7pm M-F programming for almost 10 years - and Jeremy had nothing to do with it.

He was still the promotions director when Infinity tried The Greaseman stunt, of putting him on at nights, after D&M, when Grease was sydincated across the country.

About the only real feather in Jeremy's cap as an actual programmer could be The Sports Junkies, but he hated them, and they hated him (one of their terms on the air for a gay guy was "a Jeremy"), but it worked, so he left them alone, and eventually he followed WJFK's GM to New York to try and recreate the "Superstation Magic" at WNEW - and we all know what happened there.

(Wasn't Al Dukes his hire???)

Anyway...he is a nice guy, even if he really hasn't done anything, programming wise, that has been successful.

(I could stand corrected, though - was Ron and Fez his call? I know O&A wasn't, but maybe he was the one who decided to bring R&F up from Florida - in which case - hazzah! He gets two points).

(I would love Wendell to chime in here and let me know if he thinks I'm on the mark about this, or full of shit! - ha!)

Now, Infinity will never (!) let Ron and Fez go to Satelite Radio. Never. Never. Never. Not while they are still under contract. To them, Satelite Radio is the same as streaming radio. Bubba the Love Sponge would be a good example, but he's not Infinity property.

Now, what might happen, is if O&A do decide to go to Sirius like most suspect, and there is a huge boost, Sirius could approach R&F about joining up when their contracts expire, giving them a real choice this time about where to go next with their careers. But since they signed a contract last year, I don't know when it's going to expire next.

Anyway, I could see Jeremy's dream line-up of The Sports Junkies in the morning (he hated them, but he's lazy enough to bring them on board, and he likes taking credit for them), some political talker in the mid-day, O&A, and R&F, with (perhaps) Ferrell in the evening (he's hired him twice now).

And since O&A, R&F and the Junkies all have the same agents, who knows...could happen.

[KOP]

curtoid

12-01-2003, 04:57 AM

Instead of Jeremy (or maybe in addition to Jeremy) maybe some letters should go to Joe Clayton, the head of Sirius Satellite Radio.

[KOP]

furie

12-01-2003, 05:13 AM

AFAIK

i'm not hip enough to know what that means

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curtoid

12-01-2003, 05:16 AM

AFAIK

i'm not hip enough to know what that means

That's a new one to me too, but I'm guessing "As Far As I Know."

[KOP]

StupidGirlllll

12-01-2003, 05:34 AM

Just out of curiosity, how many people actually listen to satellite radio? Or WOULD listen to it, even if R&F & O&A were on it?

I was getting my hair done & they had SIRIUS & it was pretty cool. But they said that its just like satelitte tv it goes out alot in the bad weather.

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reeshy

12-01-2003, 06:07 AM

I was just on their website and half the stations that they are promoting aren't even up yet!!! I know that eventually they will activate them but it's alot of money to invest and then have to wait for these stations to come on line!!

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Tenbatsuzen

12-01-2003, 06:34 AM

I was just on their website and half the stations that they are promoting aren't even up yet!!! I know that eventually they will activate them but it's alot of money to invest and then have to wait for these stations to come on line!!

I'm guessing, just as a hunch, that when O&A are signed, sealed, and delivered, and Sirius has to start promoting the fact that they have O&A, they are going to have MAJOR specials on equipment.

Microsoft did the same thing on X-Box... they lose money on the consoles, but they make money on the Games and subscription service.

Same deal here on Sirius... they'll offer killer deals on equipment, knowing they'll make the money on subscriptions.

I'm imagining the marketing campaign now... just imagine a Billboard on the turnpike with just two words...

<h1>OK TERRIFIC!</h1>
Coming to SIRIUS - 7/04

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Bill From Yorktown

12-01-2003, 06:44 AM

it would require both o+a and r+f to get me.

I also suspected what Steels said and THANKS

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Leadbottom

12-01-2003, 06:54 PM

Tenbatsuzen

12-01-2003, 07:08 PM

Are you kidding me?

Why would Ron and Fez leave a major US Radio market to take a Pay cut and a listening audience of minor proportions.

Write SIRIUS to hire Ron and Fez? SIRIUS would get down on their knees to get R&F on their network.

Besides XM is where it's at! They dwarf SIRIUS with subscriptions.

FUJI!

You don't read very well, do you?

The best possible solution is that Ron and Fez continue to broadcast on WJFK while being SIMULCAST ON SIRIUS.

And yes, XM does have more subscibers. However, XM is not personality driven and does not have plans for a Hot Talk channel. Sirius on the other hand, does.

The whole point of this exercise is not to get R&F to leave WJFK. It's to let Sirius know there is an audience out there to build their forthcoming hot talk stream around.

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Leadbottom

12-01-2003, 07:28 PM

It's evident you have a grasp of the obvious.

FUJI!

Snoogans

12-01-2003, 07:36 PM

id get it. shit i may anyway, i cant stand commercial radio.

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Steels

12-01-2003, 07:43 PM

Problem is, people wanna listen at work and in the car and on the street and at the park... Those days may be gone forever.

I agree Chickenhawk, they are over.

Why are so many people reacting negatively over Tenbatsuzen's news which is clearly the best hope of hearing the "Ron & Fez" show again in NYC? What are you hoping for? Like it or not his words are the truth.

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Recyclerz

12-01-2003, 08:18 PM

FWIW, like Steels, I agree with Tenbatsuzen's analysis. I don't know if he works for Sirius (or wants to) but given the current dynamics and business environment for the entertainment companies I agree that the future of shows like O&A and, not as clearly but still likely, R&F, are on pay-radio.

I don't work in radio or entertainment at all but the business models for these companies are fairly easy to dope out. (All businesses want to grow their revenues and management gets very nicely rewarded for doing that and fired for not doing that.)

In the beginning broadcasters (radio & TV) made money by delivering a large, captive audience to marketers to sell us their shit. As that stagnated, John Malone & crew discovered they could charge people a monthly fee for providing MORE of the same shit on cable TV (plus also getting a cut from the advertisers.) As a bonus they found they could charge an additional premium for entertainment product that appealed to men (sports and movies with nekkid boobies). As the revenue from cable plateaued, the entertainment honchos decided vertical integration was the way to go. That way they could sell the same shit in several different formats and get money directly from consumers and later from advertisers. That hasn't worked as well as most thought so now the entertainment companies are back to looking for more properties to get the audience to pay directly for. They've been trying premium web sites and now it seems to me that satellite radio is the most obvious new choice.

I know it sucks to start to pay for stuff you used to get for free but those So. Cal mansions and NYC penthouses favored by media moguls don't come cheap.
:|

And to Too Cute's question, yes I would pay for satellite radio just to get O&A and R&F.

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Mothball

12-02-2003, 09:15 PM

pay for radio? Bullshit! I bet you pay 5 bucks for that starbucks coffee. PT Barnum was right!

monsterone

12-02-2003, 09:24 PM

soon enough their will be a porable device capable of delivering stations like big sexy and whiv. paying for radio will give you more adult oriented stations and more freedom to the hosts.

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curtoid

12-03-2003, 04:41 AM

About 3 years ago I finally freed myself from cable television, and while I miss it from time to time (I think I can count on my hand the things I miss), by and large my life is just fine without it.

(And this coming from someone who does part time work in television!)

If I'm not paying for television, I'm sure as hell not going to pay for radio.

[KOP]

Steels

12-03-2003, 05:41 PM

If I'm not paying for television, I'm sure as hell not going to pay for radio.

Who needs to pay for radio when you have "Don & Mike" and the "Redskin's Report"!

.....

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curtoid

12-04-2003, 04:28 AM

Who needs to pay for radio when you have "Don & Mike" and the "Redskin's Report"!

THERE'S the Steels I know! Too bad that's a meaningless dig.

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Tenbatsuzen

12-16-2003, 07:28 AM

I've heard something that isn't ready for public consumption yet, but it's a done deal and should jack up Sirius subscriber numbers (or at the very least, make the package more attractive).

Remember... if you write to Joel Hollander, why shouldn't you write to Jeremy Coleman?

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TooCute

12-16-2003, 09:19 AM

I've heard something that isn't ready for public consumption yet, but it's a done deal and should jack up Sirius subscriber numbers (or at the very least, make the package more attractive).

Were you talking about <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/031216/media_sirius_2.html">the NFL deal</a>?

I can read <a href="http://www.strathlachlan.com/satradio/">the news</a>, too!

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FollowThisLogic

12-16-2003, 09:47 AM

A few notes, as I'm an XM junkie.....

-I just checked out the 10-Q reports for XM and Sirius. As of Sept 30, XM has 930k to Sirius' 150k.... that's up from 700K and 105k from the previous quarter, respectively. I know XM topped 1 million in mid-October..... but I'm not sure that Sirius has exploded to 250k as you said.....

-MAJOR clarification: ALL of the simulcast shows, that I know of, originate from Clear Channel, more specifically their Real Radio network. And they're all on XM. That's Monsters of the Midday, Drew Garabo, the Regular Guys, Bubba the Love Sponge, and the Phillips Phile. (Some of these I had to look up, but they're all on CC.)

-From what I understand, XM has better sound quality. ;p

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TooCute

12-16-2003, 09:51 AM

but I'm not sure that Sirius has exploded to 250k as you said.....

No, they just announced that they got to 200,000 on <a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031208/nym194_1.html>12/8</a>.

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Tenbatsuzen

12-16-2003, 09:55 AM

As was pointed out, I was referring to the NFL deal.

I wasn't sure if it was "public" or not.

So Sirius now carries the NFL and NHL.

Maybe since XM does carry Clear Channel properties, Infinity can explore the possibilities of simulcast on Sirius.

Don't forget: three years ago, getting a streamed Infinity station was a pipe dream.

Now it's a reality.

Things CAn change.

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FollowThisLogic

12-16-2003, 11:37 AM

Satellite radio is a bad move for BOTH shows. Think of the numbers....

Most of the audience is the casual listening crowd. If O&A happen to be while they're driving home, they'll turn it on. When they get out of the car, their listening time ends. These are not the people who would go out and spend money on equipment and a subscription, just to listen.

The hardcore audience for O&A was probably no more than 10% of their listeners, I figure. Probably less, but we can go with 10. So of that 10%, let's say a quarter of them are SO hardcore that they'd actually pay to get Sirius (cause I don't think there would be much more than that). They had what, about 3 million listeners in NYC? So you're talking 75k new subscribers. Say you pull the same numbers in Philly, DC, Cleveland, and Buffalo... their major markets. 375k total, right? Let's (generously) say that Sirius is at 500k by June '04.... So O&A will boost them to 875k.

And that 875k isn't all O&A listeners. Even if current Sirius listeners tune in, they'll have maybe 500k, between casual and hardcore listeners. When they're used to 15-20 million or so........

Point is, even if they go to satellite radio, they're going to suck.

Not to mention, the censorship - not the Stern stuff and some of the ridiculous words that really didn't need to be censored - was part of the FUN. If they can say "fuck" instead of "F", the show will lose something.

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12-16-2003, 05:21 PM

WE LOVE Ron and Fez here in Fairfax VA.... Hope they stay here for a long time to come... Long live D&M and R&F!!!!

Gvac

12-17-2003, 05:02 PM

I don't doubt that one day SIRIUS will be a major player in radio, but as of now they're so minor I can't believe Ron and Fez or any established show would want to leave a large market with a major broadcasting company to take their chances on it.

It's kind of like the early days of cable TV - obviously a network gig was much more desirable. Things have changed, but it took quite a while. I think getting Ron and Fez syndicated in New York (and as many markets as possible) is far more desirable than putting them on a fairly unknown and unproven thing like satellite radio.

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stinkbud

12-17-2003, 07:11 PM

For what it's worth...

I read in the Daily News (at least I think that is where I saw it) that Sirius is on the verge of landing a deal with NFL to broadcast games, and apparently they have a similar deal with the NBA and NHL.

If you throw Ron and Fez along with O&A, this sattelite radio thing may just start to seem worthwhile.

mothershucker

12-17-2003, 07:16 PM

How much are we talking anyway?

Anything in the $20 range I would do in a heart beat if either show went satalite.

Shit, a round of beers in a bar nowadays is more then that.

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zoom2457

12-18-2003, 04:54 AM

Nooooo!!!! Don't write to SIRIUS, write to XM.

Not that I'm biased, but XM is much more gooder than SIRIUS. And XM has already said that Ron and Fez are on their radar, they already know about them.

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TooCute

12-18-2003, 07:16 AM

For what it's worth...

I read in the Daily News (at least I think that is where I saw it) that Sirius is on the verge of landing a deal with NFL to broadcast games, and apparently they have a similar deal with the NBA and NHL.

Is there an echo in here or something?

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slipshod

01-11-2004, 08:13 AM

i have SIRIUS and i love it !!! Worth the money i think.I have it on on my computer all the time when im home.If O&A and or R&F are go that route NICE!!! It will be the next wave of terror for talk radio

jlnyc77

01-14-2004, 04:44 PM

what if i get sirius and they go to xm.. it's worth the money and hassel.. i just want to know already

bigtool

01-16-2004, 06:09 PM

my life has been ruined... since the demise of o&a so Iam willing to pay $1299 a month to hear these 2 "shock jocks" on the air

mercury29

01-18-2004, 12:32 PM

Here's what Sirius said to me
Thank you for contacting SIRIUS and inquiring about Opie and Anthony or
Ron and Fez being part of our broadcast lineup. Currently, we have no
agreements with Opie and Anthony or Ron and Fez and their programs are
not broadcast on any SIRIUS streams.

With SIRIUS radio, you still have access to your local AM/FM stations
which will allow you to continue to listen to your favorite radio
personalities. We appreciate your interest in SIRIUS and in our
broadcasting lineup. Your interest in hearing Opie and Anthony or Ron
and Fez on our talk streams will be forwarded to our programming
department.

Your feedback regarding our programming is extremely important to us.
We are dedicated to providing the most variety and best listening
experience available anywhere.

Sincerely,

Sara
SIRIUS Customer Care Agent

AngelAmy

01-20-2004, 05:41 AM

uhh i dont want them on sirius...so i think ill put my pen and paper down and just forget i ever read this thread

if anything satelite id want them on xm since that is what i have

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Borne Too Loose

01-21-2004, 10:53 AM

Just out of curiosity, how many people actually listen to satellite radio? Or WOULD listen to it, even if R&F & O&A were on it?

I can't think of anything i else i should spend my money...I've been so depressed with no R+F or O+A, the money i spend on Prozac could be redirected at satellite radio.
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