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ChickenHawk
12-04-2003, 09:22 PM
Drudge is reporting that Eminem's got a new song coming out called "We As Americans". The "controversial" lyrics include the following:

"F**k money. I don't rap for dead presidents. I'd rather see the president dead. It's never been said, but I set precedents and the standards and they can't stand it... We as Americans. Us as a citizen. We've got to protect ourselves'..."

There's no link to a story right now because the report is still developing, so for now, just check out drudgereport.com.

I just think it's kinda funny that Eminem is saying "Fuck money" in a song. Whether he wants to be or not, the guy's fucking filthy rich and should shut his fucking mouth. That's like going up to a homeless person with a Thanksgiving turkey in your hand and saying "Fuck food".
Also, he apparently hates George Bush, but what's new?

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Death Metal Moe
12-04-2003, 09:29 PM
I'd defend his right to say it, but saying you wish ANY of our presidents were dead seems in bad taste, and carries bad karma at least.

Anyway, do people still listen to this little bitter asshole? They should be ashamed of themselves. He's horrible. He couldn't take a plastic puppet dissing him for 2 seconds. He's a dick licker.

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pinkyfloyd
12-04-2003, 09:33 PM
Is Eminem EVER happy?! He should count his blessings that he lives in America, where he can say whatever he wants, and not have to worry about getting executed. Send that fucker to North Korea and see what a smartass mouth will get him.

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monsterone
12-04-2003, 09:40 PM
what out for the 15 yr old white male backlash.

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Death Metal Moe
12-04-2003, 09:40 PM
Is Eminem EVER happy?!



Good point pinkyfloyd.

Ahh, but you forget! He's a tortured artist up in his mansions with his jewelry that's worth more than our lifetime salaries combined.

He had a tough life growing up? Oh, poor baby. Too bad he couldn't be like the rest of us and never underwent any childhood trauma.

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12-04-2003, 09:43 PM
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ChickenHawk
12-04-2003, 09:45 PM
This just in... I've managed to obtain the cover art for his new CD!

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Death Metal Moe
12-04-2003, 09:45 PM
You know, I heard someone on TV call Eminem the voice of a generation, and I've been vomiting ever since. They should kill whoever said that, and beat Eminem to death with a lawn gnome.

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monsterone
12-04-2003, 09:54 PM
with his jewelry that's worth more than our lifetime salaries combined.



alright, as a blue collar guy for a blue collar upbringing, if i ever can into wealth, i figure i would rather drop half a mill on a house than on a piece of jewelry(even if i could pick up 10 at a time).

maybe that's just my white bread lifestyle, but i can't even conprehend the ghetto philosophy of being "nigger rich"(popularized by the boiler room). forgive the racist overtones but it's the new nouveau riche.

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Death Metal Moe
12-04-2003, 10:04 PM
I hear ya on the money, not the racism monsterone. :p

Everytime I hear one of these idiots bragging how much the one necklace or ring they're talking about cost them, I think about how many cars I could buy with it. Reasonable cars most likely, cause I'm thinking about cars within my own means. Or how I could keep new, uncracked cymbals on my set for 5 lifetimes.

Not that I think the rich owe me any of their money, it just hurts to see they spent the money on such a useless thing. Maybe I'm alone, but big jewelry doesn't impress me in the least.

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monsterone
12-04-2003, 10:18 PM
moe, what gets my goat is how people will "shake their rump(i think that's what the kids are saying)" to a song about how much money the artist will make for getting it played.

thanks for the check list of desinger clothes, lists of top shelf liquors, and examples of cars i'll never own. you couldn't maybe come up with something better considering the bank you're going to pull in?

and i can't think of a more eliquent / modern of saying n-rich. but what is the sense of owning a mb(?) if you don't have $5 to put gas in it? sorry to derail.



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curtoid
12-05-2003, 05:43 AM
The good news now is that maybe the Democrats have their key-note speaker for their convention next year.

Christ - he may be the smartest man in the universe - again, the no talent hack has figured a way to get attention on himself. The right wing talkers will have a field day with this, while all of their brats will be waiting in line to get it.

Actually reminds me of G. Gordon Liddy who, on his radio show back in the early 1990s, made many comments about taking his grandson out and practicing shooting their guns, using pictures of President Clinton for target practice.

But I digress - I put him in and Courtney Love in the same level; they have all the money in the world, all of the fame anyone should ever want, yet they are miserable a-holes with lives that seem to only exist for the drama.


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silera
12-05-2003, 05:53 AM
Make sure you all use lube to prevent chaffing.


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TheMojoPin
12-05-2003, 06:19 AM
You guys complain even more than Eminem, and even though you're all dirt-poor and it's "OK", it's still fucking annoying.

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Doomstone
12-05-2003, 06:40 AM
Whether he wants to be or not, the guy's fucking filthy rich and should shut his fucking mouth.




Anyway, do people still listen to this little bitter asshole? They should be ashamed of themselves. He's horrible. He couldn't take a plastic puppet dissing him for 2 seconds. He's a dick licker.




He should count his blessings that he lives in America, where he can say whatever he wants, and not have to worry about getting executed. Send that fucker to North Korea and see what a smartass mouth will get him.




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maybe that's just my white bread lifestyle, but i can't even conprehend the ghetto philosophy of being "nigger rich"(popularized by the boiler room). forgive the racist overtones but it's the new nouveau riche.


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JustJon
12-05-2003, 07:22 AM
I'd rather see the president dead.

Is that a federal offence?

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TheMojoPin
12-05-2003, 08:28 AM
Kinda.

In fact, posting (And then quoting that line) may get you a call or even a visit from the Secret Service, since they have a whole task force that trolls the 'net searching only for threats (Real or false) as explicit as that. Let's hope they understand "context" or just really suck at their jobs.

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Heavy
12-05-2003, 08:42 AM
You cant threaten a terrorist attack or to kill the president. Thats the rules. On the net i mean.

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12-05-2003, 09:15 AM
We've mentioned the State skit about the topic in the past.

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realjen
12-05-2003, 10:44 AM
EMINEM'S RIGHT, MONEY IS NOT IMPORTANT AND OUR PRESIDENT FUCKING SUCKS. IT'S ABOUT TIME SOME ONE WITH SOME POWER SPOKE OUT AND DIDN'T GO BACK AND APOLOGIZE FOR IT.

AND JUST TO LET ALL YOU IGNORANT HATERS KNOW EMINEM DOES NOT OWN ANY DIAMONDS AND HE WEARS SWEATS TO EVERY AWARDS SHOW HE ATTENDS.

"I'M ALL FOR AMERICA FUCK THE GOVERMENT"....

Heavy
12-05-2003, 10:46 AM
Caps lock key: Explore it.

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high fly
12-05-2003, 11:49 AM
"Yawwwwwwn."

(stretches arms, rubs eyes)

"Huh, wha?"

(stretches legs, checks clock)


"You say Eminem doesn't like Bush?"

"That's what you woke me up for?"


(turns over, goes back to sleep)




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Justice4all
12-05-2003, 11:56 AM
Is Eminem EVER happy?!



Good point pinkyfloyd.



I find it funny that a man named after a band that has VERY mellow music is making a point of a fellow musician being happy.

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ChickenHawk
12-05-2003, 12:06 PM
AND JUST TO LET ALL YOU IGNORANT HATERS KNOW EMINEM DOES NOT OWN ANY DIAMONDS AND HE WEARS SWEATS TO EVERY AWARDS SHOW HE ATTENDS.
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SatCam
12-05-2003, 12:21 PM
Now I know who's bringing down the value of the dollar.

Fucking yen.

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high fly
12-05-2003, 12:26 PM
Does Eminem support the tariffs on steel?

" and they ask me why I drink"

Iamnotatool
12-05-2003, 12:47 PM
Stop hating y'all...

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Bama
12-05-2003, 02:11 PM
I don't hear anyone whining about Tom Selleck or Arnold Schwartzenegger.

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Katylina
12-05-2003, 02:15 PM
EMINEM'S RIGHT, MONEY IS NOT IMPORTANT AND OUR PRESIDENT FUCKING SUCKS. IT'S ABOUT TIME SOME ONE WITH SOME POWER SPOKE OUT AND DIDN'T GO BACK AND APOLOGIZE FOR IT.


OK I love EMINEM and was very excited when I read that he loves to bang groupies, but, um, reading that made me embarassed.

Anyway.

EMINEM always had political opinions. This is nothing new.

"Should I clean up my lyrics while the president gets his dick sucked?"



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Heavy
12-05-2003, 05:33 PM
Eminem doesnt have opinions on anything. He just writes shocking lyrics. Did you hear what he said? I'm so Shocked!!

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El Mudo
12-05-2003, 05:52 PM
MMMMMMMMMMMEGADITTOS!!!


Wait a second. So you rip all these people for making what you consider to be generalized statements by making your own generalized statement(all these people are dittoheads)?? Contradict yourself much?

Ill wait until you pull thy head from yon rectal cavity and then maybe you would make a real argument that doesn't rely on some snappy buzzword something on the lines of *duh..fuh..fuh...BuSh aRE StoOPidd* or something of that sentiment...

Ugh...

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mikeyboy
12-05-2003, 05:56 PM
Eminem doesnt have opinions on anything. He just writes shocking lyrics. Did you hear what he said? I'm so Shocked!!


Sounds like a few people on this board.

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Scuba_Steve
12-05-2003, 08:15 PM
Also, he apparently hates George Bush, but what's new?Yea and who doesnt, You'd hate him too if he sent about 10000 troops over seas and have at least one of them die every day. Besides we all know Bush is a moron

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Death Metal Moe
12-05-2003, 08:28 PM
Also, he apparently hates George Bush, but what's new?

Yea and who doesnt, You'd hate him too if he sent about 10000 troops over seas and have at least one of them die every day. Besides we all know Bush is a moron

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I don't hate Bush there Steve. And I am not aware that he is a moron, although I have severe doubts about SOMEONE who shall remain nameless.



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El Mudo
12-05-2003, 08:29 PM
Yea and who doesnt, You'd hate him too if he sent about 10000 troops over seas and have at least one of them die every day. Besides we all know Bush is a moron



*sigh*....Too easy Drill Sergeant...

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Death Metal Moe
12-05-2003, 08:30 PM
MMMMMMMMMMMEGADITTOS!!!


Wait a second. So you rip all these people for making what you consider to be generalized statements by making your own generalized statement(all these people are dittoheads)?? Contradict yourself much?

Ill wait until you pull thy head from yon rectal cavity and then maybe you would make a real argument that doesn't rely on some snappy buzzword something on the lines of *duh..fuh..fuh...BuSh aRE StoOPidd* or something of that sentiment...

Ugh...

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Don't even bother yourself in the future El Mudo. I appreciate your effort, but he's hardly even worth a read.

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Bama
12-05-2003, 08:31 PM
Hey steve, I'll hate him double to make up for Moe.

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Se7en
12-05-2003, 09:00 PM
All this song shows is just how masterful Eminem is at manipulating the media & the public for ultimate marketing effect.

Hats off to him.

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Bama
12-05-2003, 09:39 PM
Yeah, when we talk about Eminem he wins.

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Doomstone
12-06-2003, 07:02 AM
Wait a second. So you rip all these people for making what you consider to be generalized statements by making your own generalized statement(all these people are dittoheads)?? Contradict yourself much?

Just pointing out the knee-jerk hypersensitive overreaction to anyone who should dare to say anything even remotely negative about Dear Leader.

Has anyone who commented actually heard the song in question? Or, as was the case with the Reagan movie a few weeks ago, they merely read something inflammatory on Drudge and, like trained monkeys empowered with righteous fury, proceed to attack the perceived threat and any and all libruls, just to be sure.

"Waah, Eminem doezent like the president, he should move to NORTH KOREA!!"

"Eminem am stupid head11"

"Me no likey mean rap guy. He have money and should shut mouth!!"

Attacking artists for expressing themselves artistically, it's the American way!

Ill wait until you pull thy head from yon rectal cavity and then maybe you would make a real argument that doesn't rely on some snappy buzzword something on the lines of *duh..fuh..fuh...BuSh aRE StoOPidd* or something of that sentiment...


I don't need to do any such thing. It's really simple: this is about a song. Making songs is legal. Nowhere in the song does he condone violence against any president. Expressing a desire to see something is completely different from threatening to do something. If anything, he's guilty of thoughtcrime. Didn't know we reached that far yet.

Ugh...

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high fly
12-06-2003, 09:25 AM
All this song shows is just how masterful Eminem is at manipulating the media & the public for ultimate marketing effect

Iagree with Se7en.

I would add 2 things: 1)He also shows how easy it is, and
2) He's way ahead of Madonna on this one...

" and they ask me why I drink"

TheMojoPin
12-06-2003, 01:03 PM
Nowhere in the song does he condone violence against any president.

Well...

"I'd rather see the president dead."

Other than that, I agree with you.

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high fly
12-06-2003, 01:08 PM
Maybe he means, like, President Mobuto Sese Seku.

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ChickenHawk
12-06-2003, 01:42 PM
If it's his right as American to bitch, it's MY right as an American to bitch about him bitching. So quit your fuckin' bitching.

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Se7en
12-06-2003, 05:27 PM
Iagree with Se7en.


We've agreed twice now, in the same week.

What the fuck is wrong with us? ;p

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El Mudo
12-07-2003, 09:03 AM
Maybe he means, like, President Mobuto Sese Seku.


Isn't he dead?

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shamus mcfitzy
12-07-2003, 12:09 PM
man, the guy couldn't care less about politics i'm sure. He's "rebelling against authority" fellas. If Howard Dean was in office, lil Marshall would still be spouting nonesense about raping his moms. He'd call FDR "sit and spin" if he were still alive and he thought it would sell records.



Not that I think the rich owe me any of their money


Moe, YOU'RE NOT A SOCIALIST?!?!? I feel betrayed and perturbed.

and come on, Bush NOT a moron? Even Orrin Hatch would admit to it at this point

high fly
12-08-2003, 12:16 PM
Isn't he dead?

Could be, I'm really not sure.
But if he is, I doubt Eminem is aware of it.

" and they ask me why I drink"